Any chance of superhero stuff being added to the game?
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Posted on: 2011-12-10 06:38 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
So, basically, what we ALL want is more spandex options that don't look terrible, like the current ones do.
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"Some good food! Food that isn't terrible!"
"Okay, but what kind of food? What exactly do you want?"
"I already told you, good food!"
"Sigh. Fine. You're getting mashed potatoes. Hope you like them."
Something to keep in mind, "Better stuff pls" does not help the devs that much. Specific ideas do.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
So, basically, what we ALL want is more spandex options that don't look terrible, like the current ones do.
That's a lot simpler. |
- More big tech/robotic options. The number of strictly spandexy options already far outweigh everything else in CoH today, which feels okay to me when being compared to, say, barbarian fashions, but given how many heroes and villains in the comics sport at least some bit of bulky tech/robotic gear, I don't think it would hurt to expand on that stuff even more. More stuff like the Enforcer Heavy set, for instance (helmet options seem especially lacking).
- Jet/rocket packs as back options. I really like the Raptor Pack, but I'd like to see more of such things, turned into back costume options.
- Boots/shoes that go to (only) calf-height. As it stands now you either get shoes that cover the feet, leaving the rest of the lower leg exposed, or you get full-length boots that go all the way to the knee (and above). Even the two variants on socks are either ankle-high or knee-high. There's currently nothing in between.
- I will echo all the previous requests for masks and cowels that make the eye holes covered (and ideally colorable).
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Actually, what you said was "Any chance of superhero stuff being added to the game?"|
Originally Posted by Wing_Leader
Now, if you read carefully, nowhere did anyone say that the game should exclusively represent the four-color spandex-wearing superhero. That is an imagined bit of hyperbole invented by those who merely want an easy argument to shoot down.
What I am actually saying is that all those "other" elements should not become more commonplace than in the source material if a proper sense of genre identity is to be preserved. |
"But yeah. Anime...yawn. Mythology...yawn. Tron...yawn. Traditional MMO styles...yawn. Fedoras...yawn. Let's get some superhero ish up in this bish!"
So, you did actually exclude Mythology and Fedoras from being superhero ish.
I understand that to get replies on a thread it helps to make a pointed title and adopt an aggressive stance so that people care enough to reply. But own up to what you wrote.
I think most people get what you mean, but others are going by what you posted.
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I did? Where? You do realize I'm not the OP, right?
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Originally Posted by dugfromthearth
Actually, what you said was "Any chance of superhero stuff being added to the game?"
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Better, which is to say 'not flatly painted on' tights/masks/spandex is fairly specific.
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Originally Posted by Captain-Electric
Something to keep in mind, "Better stuff pls" does not help the devs that much. Specific ideas do.
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Nope, wrong analogy |
Originally Posted by Captain-Electric
"What kind of food do you want?"
"Some good food! Food that isn't terrible!" "Okay, but what kind of food? What exactly do you want?" "I already told you, good food!" "Sigh. Fine. You're getting mashed potatoes. Hope you like them." Something to keep in mind, "Better stuff pls" does not help the devs that much. Specific ideas do. |
A better analogy would be;
"We'd like some good steak."
"But you already have steak!"
"Yes, steak that came from Bobs Cheapo Mart down the road. I'm talking steak that might have said 'Moo' within the past year or so, not 'sometime this century'."
So, the steak is already there, yes. But it could be GOOD steak, not junk steak
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Hell yes, Hell YES, yes and yes, to all the above respectively.
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Originally Posted by Wing_Leader
I would also add:
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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I don't see that sort of mistake made very often. Well done.
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Originally Posted by dugfromthearth
But own up to what you wrote.
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Regardless of who thinks what is Super Hero via coloring or perception or genre - I'd love to see some Golden, Silver and Pulp Age costume sets!
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Originally Posted by BrandX
I think Wing and JB said it well enough. It's not that the genre can't support it, it's that it's being WAY to overdone.
You say "Oh well, this is my concept!" Then everyone looks around and goes, "Yup. Just like the millions of others who think they're awesome, not really typical superhero genre, concepts!" Not saying I don't like a lot of those concepts. There are some really well done ones. But, I recall that time when all I saw when I looked around was vampire and werewolves, and that time it was all D&D style characters...you see those in mass quantities and as someone who came here for the superhero genre, you start to go "sigh" |
I'm not really all that eloquent either, so I suppose the best thing I can say is that if someone wants to see more of a certain type of toon in game, then make them.
I'm all for more tools in the costume creator to make that happen. Like say making it so that tintable dark armor can get closer to white than that lousy medium gray at the far right of the scale.Regarding that last bit - there's always going to be "That time I saw a thounds XXX running around," and that time will be right after costume packs drop. Steampunk pack comes out, suddenly everyone and their brother goes steampunk. Happened with all of the old pre-Freedom costume packs, new pieces drop and folks want to use them. Of course there are a few handfuls of concepts/toons/etc that just occur over and over and over - that can get old, but what do you do.
That said, I *like* more options, and improved Gold/Silver era options would be rad. I've got nothing against adding more classic stuff, I just have something against arbitrary limitations.
It's a lot simpler than some taking passive-aggressive digs at other perfectly viable sub-sections of the overall genre, thus causing people to get the wrong idea and make posts over-complicating the point and having arguments that they didn't need to have