I don't have one anymore but to explain the comment about it being "above what it's supposed to be", the formula for AoE area, damage, endurance, and recharge was pretty much ignored by Psychic Shockwave how it was initially. Even after it was nerfed it's still out of bounds of that formula (larger radius, iirc) and in addition, they changed Psychic Scream from using the ranged modifier (0.95) to the melee (1.05) modifier to give it a little extra kick and spread the AoE love to another power as compensation... so both of the AoEs in the set break the formula.
Is it anywhere close to before? Nope! Is it terrible? Nah. Did I delete my Mind/Psi Dominator even before the nerfs happened at level 42 because I hated how many things I ran into resisted Psi in the late game? Yep!
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It wasn't nerfed, it was rebalanced. Damage was lowered for PSW, increased for everything else, and base damage for Dominators in general was increased. It isn't 38 levels of rotten damage anymore.
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Originally Posted by Azucar_NA
And I know /psi was nerfed, but I was wondering what is the set good for now?
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It wasn't nerfed, it was rebalanced. Damage was lowered for PSW, increased for everything else, and base damage for Dominators in general was increased. It isn't 38 levels of rotten damage anymore.
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Did PSW get nerfed? Yes, absolutely. Though really it was way out of line, and very deserving of one anyhow. It was only left as broken as it was because the rest of the set was crap.
Did /Psi get nerfed? Not so much really. It's a hell of a lot better for at least the first 38levels.
You can't skip all the other powers and just spam PWS anymore though.
@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too
Drain psyche is one of the most awesome powers in the game. /psi is worth it just for that.
I still need to get around to respeccing my mind/psi dom to having an attack chain again. Before the nerf he basically cycled mind probe/psy shockwave. For single target damage.
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Originally Posted by Pitho
I still need to get around to respeccing my mind/psi dom to having an attack chain again. Before the nerf he basically cycled mind probe/psy shockwave. For single target damage.
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She's all purpled but I actually haven't even tested the new PSW yet. Guess I got bitter with the new pvp and the fact that I went through 38 levels of suck (gimped ice troller for all those levels is sad) to get the PSW awesomeness.
Anyway, to the OP, Drain Psyche is da bomb. I leveled 1-50 without fitness and running Arctic Air, a very end heavy toggle, 24/7, because of DP - only got stamina later (when fitness wasn't inherent of course) to go pvp.
DP is also a great power for -regen on AVs and EBs. Mine was always slotted for acc/heal/rech because in a large mob I could reach the recovery cap without endmod slotting.
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Drain psyche is one of the most awesome powers in the game. /psi is worth it just for that.
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Heh, yeah. I have been considering making a something/psi/psi Dominator just for how much perma-dom, perma drain psyche, and perma link minds would lead to a trail of (high survivability) destruction and awesomeness... I just lack the motivation to make or play a dominator.
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Link Minds is kind of meh in my book. Having a little bit of psi resist tacked on (and unenhanceable) means power boost won't work with it. That really spoiled my hopes for it.
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
Heh, yeah. I have been considering making a something/psi/psi Dominator just for how much perma-dom, perma drain psyche, and perma link minds would lead to a trail of (high survivability) destruction and awesomeness... I just lack the motivation to make or play a dominator.
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Originally Posted by ketch
Link Minds is kind of meh in my book. Having a little bit of psi resist tacked on (and unenhanceable) means power boost won't work with it. That really spoiled my hopes for it.
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(It is super lame how trivial the psi resist is though, it could at least have been worth a damn in it's own right. 10-15% even.)
@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too
sleet is the way to go. drain psyche's -regen coupled with sleet's -def/res kind lets you debuff the crap out of anything. especially if you build for perma drain psyche.
SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
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What are the debuff numbers on dominator sleet? Dominator melt armor is listed on mid's at 11.25% resist debuff, but mid's doesn't list numbers for Dominator sleet.
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sleet is the way to go. drain psyche's -regen coupled with sleet's -def/res kind lets you debuff the crap out of anything. especially if you build for perma drain psyche.
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All versions of Melt Armor from epics suck, but Sleet (at least in City of Data) has the same numbers as the controller and defender versions (except recharge, 90s for dom, 60s for the non epic version, and a bit higher end cost, 23 vs 18).
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What are the debuff numbers on dominator sleet? Dominator melt armor is listed on mid's at 11.25% resist debuff, but mid's doesn't list numbers for Dominator sleet.
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Link Minds is kind of meh in my book. Having a little bit of psi resist tacked on (and unenhanceable) means power boost won't work with it. That really spoiled my hopes for it.
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Playing around in Mids I still found it helpful enough for a nice defense boost on top of maneuvers, weave, and combat jumping.. Plus Psi mastery has a nice resist toggle for layered survivability.
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All versions of Melt Armor from epics suck, but Sleet (at least in City of Data) has the same numbers as the controller and defender versions (except recharge, 90s for dom, 60s for the non epic version, and a bit higher end cost, 23 vs 18).
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Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
Sometimes I wish they could have left certain things the way they were to preserve certain "taste".
/Psi really was so awful until PSW comes into the picture. They re-balanced /Psi and made it more similar to other sets.
I actually have not even respec all my old /Psi doms. I just felt I lost interest in them because the only reason I level them and suffered through 1-39 is to enjoy PSW.
I wish they could have kept PSW the way it was and maybe reduced radius from 25' to 15'.
Oh well.. I just think sometimes when you "over-balance" things, things become too similar (although one can argue that in /Psi's case it has two very unique powers in PSW and Drained Psyche)
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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Well, at least that wouldn't be an issue on a /Psi dominator eh? No Power Boost for it not to work with anyhow.
(It is super lame how trivial the psi resist is though, it could at least have been worth a damn in it's own right. 10-15% even.) |
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Playing around in Mids I still found it helpful enough for a nice defense boost on top of maneuvers, weave, and combat jumping. Plus Psi mastery has a nice resist toggle for layered survivability.
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Just an FYI for anyone that gets their hopes up looking at it.
True. It is the same amount of defense as Weave. I suppose it's more accurate to say I'm not impressed with Psi Mastery for doms. World of Confusion is junk and the mez protection is kind of redundant. I'm not much of a fan of resistance armors either, but to each their own there. |
WoC is a nice place to drop an FOTG -res if you have the cash for it, that's what I use it for on my /mental blaster.
Personally, I'm enjoying my Elec/Psy/Mace dom at level 38. No, it isn't Perma. In fact, it's running primarily on SOs because I'm a little low on inf right now.
When domination hits, Psychic Shockwave becomes a mez in its own right, not just my primary means of AoE damage. Because of how Electric Control works with Conductive aura in melee, I skipped Psychic Scream because the cone, while one my my favorite attacks on my Fire/MM Blaster, isn't as effective in melee range.
What's left is a fast cycling ST chain and a quick-recharging PBAoE attack with a stun of high enough magnitude to add another layer of control on top of my dominator's AoEsleep patch, chain confuse, endurance drain (no attacks if they have no end), chain knocldowns, and outright AoE Holds with Paralytic Blast.
Also, Drain Psyche.
Also, Gremlins to add to the sapping, knockdown, and damage.
Psychic Assault isn't going to outdamage a /Fire Dom, but with Drain Psyche to boost your survival and extra control, you've got a fun, powerful character.
Too many alts to list.
What others said,
formerly
PSW had a wicked fast recharge, combined with nuke level damage, but except for Drain Psyche, everything else was really horrible
now
While PSW is still the best PBOA available to Dom's, its now where near what it was, but on the other hand, a lot of damage was put in the rest of the set making the set overall more compariable to the other Assault Sets.
So if your Dom was built around spamming PSW, yes it was a nerf
or if your Dom uses any of the other attacks it is a major upgrade, even TK Thrust is viable attack power( if annoying with its knockback)
I use probe/tk/psywave/sleet/storm as my attack chain. With ion in there somewhere. Psi-res mobs suck totally. But overall, with permadom/permaDP, i like it quite nice thank you very much.
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What others said,
formerly PSW had a wicked fast recharge, combined with nuke level damage, but except for Drain Psyche, everything else was really horrible now While PSW is still the best PBOA available to Dom's, its now where near what it was, but on the other hand, a lot of damage was put in the rest of the set making the set overall more compariable to the other Assault Sets. So if your Dom was built around spamming PSW, yes it was a nerf or if your Dom uses any of the other attacks it is a major upgrade, even TK Thrust is viable attack power( if annoying with its knockback) |
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I had one of those pre-rebalanced psi dominators. He was great. But he was really only great dping certain things.
Now with the rebalance psw and doms in general (the change in damage and domination)...u have patrons and epics. I went with fire, for two more aoes.
Now, I have a pretty decent toon, that I CAN like exempt and play lowers, still rage on huge numbers of bad guys at 50....and is not purely depending on psi damage. He is still perma and IOed out.
I am looking forward to the time I can swap his alpha into agility.
He went from niche god like (psw with permadom damage only....to solid all around type. He just uses alot more powers. I really like him a whole lot more now.
So, I've been away for a while. And I know /psi was nerfed, but I was wondering what is the set good for now? Is it the best at anything besides range? I mean, I guess 20 extra feet is cool and all. I believe they (BaB?) said it still is above what it's supposed to be.