Black Friday SALE warning, Kinetic Combat set

I lol'd.

Today, more than a dozen of my characters went back into the "play and slot" instead of being relegated to Tip Monkey status. After I aquire all of the cheap crap that can be bought in the WW Grocery Store for virtual nickels, making new characters will be an "Try an alt, Mids a build, slot as it's played" activity.

Obviously you can twist anything that they might sell on the market so that's it's bad for the game. "Oh no, not self rez powers! Now people won't have to care about dying and so will cause team wipes, it's harming the game!" "Oh no, not team inspirations! Now people can overpower their teams with them, making content too easy and causing people to get bored and quit, IT'S HARMING THE GAME!!!"

If you think selling a few IOs is anywhere near as bad as selling levels 1-50, then you need to get a sense of perspective.

No, as that could potentially cause an over-abundance. The only way it might not be a problem is if inf was in short supply. But I'm not sure that's possible in a game like this.

No, it's not, if it were then they wouldn't sell for the prices they do. Further, such a problem will balance itself out. If they do reach an over-abundance then they won't be worth buying from the Paragon Market, and so everyone will just get them at WW/BM

See what Emberly said, with the addition that people only get jealous of players who have bought things when a) That player is doing significantly better than themselves and b) They know that that player has bought something from the store.

This is not a problem here, as the same power can be reached with IOs earned in game, so there's no way of knowing if another player's bought their power, or earnt it. Unless they say outright.
Further, teams are chaotic enough that it's hard to tell who's the most effective. A player will stupid levels of IO slotting just keeps their team alive when they would have otherwise died. But it's rarely clear that it was down to that player.

Well, for the 1-50, they already offer that - it's called AE access. You get it with your subscription fee. I would have no greater problem with it if they sold it outright.

The inf I would have a problem with, but only because adding more inf to the game drives inflation. Unlike the buying 50 thing, selling inf would affect my game.

Well, no matter how "enlightened" you consider this position, you're in a small minority of people who think it's perfectly okay to buy "I win!" functionality.

Not that there's not a market for that kind of stuff. I hear that games like Farmville are like that. I deliberately avoid those games. As do, I suspect, most people who have been paying $15 per month to subscribe to City of Heroes. And I likewise suspect that most of those people don't want to see a game they've invested a lot of time, effort, and money into turned into Farmville.

If you do, more power to you. But I also have to point out that if such a decision causes NCsoft/Paragon Studios to start bleeding money as people stopped playing, that would very likely negatively impact your playing experience as well.

I'm not arguing that any particular change discussed in this thread would lead to such an outcome; I lost track about five posts in what was being talked about. If you want to argue about whether this or that is an "I win" purchasable functionality, more power to you. I'm merely pointing out that no matter how much you think it's okay to pay to "win" the game is okay, you're wrong.

Oh please, you have no evidence of that. I find if far far more likely that the majority of people either don't care at all, or would like to take advantage of buying a bit of extra power. Especially when you can't buy any more power than can be earnt in game.

Oh yeah, someone's opinion is wrong, and you're justification for that is basically "Ner ner ner ner ner" and "ZOMG FARMVILLE". Good arguments you have there...

And no matter how righteous and intolerant you happen to feel in this position, you're in a tiny minority of people who think that your opinions represent anywhere close to a majority of the playerbase. Or even a minority large enough to quantify as "small".

See, I can do that too. And my statement is equally as researched and valid as yours.

Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.

Originally Posted by Brillig It's hard to beat the entertainment value of Whackjob Wednesdays.

Actually I disagree to some extent, store bought IO's cannot be enhanced by the booster. That 25% extra enhancement value is pretty nice. An example is slotting a melee power with 6 slots, 4 kinetic combat boosted and then 2 procs.

It still necessitates spending real money in the Market, unless you're Tier 9 and okay with waiting and spending all future tokens for some months to come on nothing but boosters.

I lol'd again.

It's deliberate. We're talking about simple addition.

ditto about set vs solo.

On a per-enhancement basis, it takes a less points to achieve, especially if you buy a large pack of boosters (which reduces the points you pay per booster). I'm with Ultimus on this one - in general, I feel the non-store enhancements are superior. Folks who like to exemplar a lot are likely to prefer the store-bought ones, and that's fine. I don't think it makes a case for unambiguous superiority, however.