top blaster/defender nuke powers

I'm talking about the power that leaves you drained of all endurance and no recovery for 10 seconds or some such nonsense. All toggles drop so if you had any defensive powers your now defenseless and more squishy than usual.

The recharge time is as long as any Judgement and it doesn't do nearly as much damage as a Judgement.

I find myself dropping these powers out of my build. Why expose myself when I can do a judgement for more damage and I can still fight on with all toggles up. I can't stand being out of endurance with all of my toggles dropped.

It just seems that blasters and defenders got the short end of the stick here. These powers need to be revisited and made so they don't drain you anymore.

i pretty much always skip all crashing nukes because i despise the crash

as for non crashing ones like hail of bullets or full auto ill take that all the time

I am leveling an ice blaster. The concept started out as a pure range character. With help from the boards I chose Ice/Nrg. One of the reasons is Ice's ranged nuke. Being slightly squishy after going in for PBAoE is one thing, dealing raw damage from a safe distance and being low on end? Dealable with. Energy has Conserve Power, and by careful battle timing I am never low on End. When Conserve Power pops up I know I have plenty of endurance, oh, and a Nuke to start the process off right. All from the beauty of range. I am very close to figuring out the build for 50, softcappped range defense. So, in short, I love Ice's Nuke and how it works synergistically with the Ice/Nrg Ranged build I am working on.

I won't argue one way or another on the crash.

I will say that the Ageless Destiny makes these crashing nukes very usable. Ageless can be fired with 0 endurance and will fill your endurance bar up (how much depends on which ageless you take).

I used to avoid crashing nukes but was convinced to take one in a rebuild. I didn't care much for it and hardly used it unless on teams. Once I got the destiny slot and put in ageless I now use it a lot. Every time ageless is up I find a group run in > hit build up > nuke > ageless and finish off the survivors. As a bonus this particular toon is a rad blaster so if I throw a hold at a boss in the group first then nuke em the hold on the nuke stacks to hold the boss. I can then hit ageless and finish off the Lts and then deal with the boss since they are locked down.

Retoggling is not a big deal on most blasters (I only have 4 on this toon). Sometimes for whatever reason some or none of my toggles drop (a lucky fire from Performance Shifter +End PROC? or just quick enough on ageless?).

Not saying it is for every blaster, I have many where I still skip the nuke in favor of more constant damage rather than a big burst but I enjoy the nuke with ageless. If you have ageless and want to fire it on a team or league you might as well nuke a spawn first in my view.

On Blasters I don't take crashing nukes. I can't stand retoggling. It frustrates me that if you're held your toggle status is remembered by the game but if you run out of End you have to retoggle.

That said, I used to love playing an Ice/Kin Corruptor because I could fire the nuke then pop a blue, then do Transference on a boss that wasn't yet dead (the nuke is a rain so it takes time to deal full damage) and be back up to full End. I dealt with the annoyance of retoggling because as a Kin the crash from the nuke was so easy to work around.

Blaster nukes hit harder than Judgement powers (though with a smaller target cap and area) and are available before level 50. I don't use them a lot but they can be fun... though they're generally the second thing I drop (right after snipes) if I need to free up space in a build.

Solution: Just change them to a 75% endurance crash, keep the recovery debuff. You will still need to pop blues or use a recovery power like consume or power sink to keep fighting but the toggle drop annoyance will go away, which is the main issue most people have with them I believe.

I have a Kin/Ice defender that I love, now I defy anyone to hit Fulcrum Shift and Blizzard and not instantly fall in love... check mids if you need proof... 2000 dmg Aoe

I don't take them and I don't find any of the workarounds people to be suggest to be all that good either. Endurance recovery powers detoggle you and remove your defenses. Even if you're unconvinced that the constant retoggling adds a huge animation time penalty during which you could be nuking the next spawn, it's still a hassle and a QoL issue to deal with. With trials spawning mobs that are 50% bosses/EB and Judgement available as a convenient minion-muncher, old-style crash nukes are obsolete with very few exceptions. 75% end crash would be a lot better provided they keep their current damage.

Granted, there'll probably be balance problems if you remove the crash completely. Right now AR and Archery are only competitive with Fire (and outdo it, as far as aoe is concerned) because of the crashless nukes. Remove the crash and you leave Fire and maybe Sonic as the only top-tier primaries - but that's a whole new can of worms.

HoB and RoA recharge A LOT faster. 60s base recharge vs 360s base recharge.

I usually skip crash nukes as well anymore. Reason? Because I usually take hover and I hate dropping from the sky when my nuke fires.

I don't have the patience to try and find it, but there is a quote from a dev somewhere that's about a month old on crash nukes, and how they are revisiting and reconsidering them.