AE "fixed" (snip snip) again.

Y'know what, forget it.

You all win. I can't think of the last time I actually have been *attacked* by people and been subject to such utter asshattery and snobbery for reporting what looked like a bug (and turned into an actual patch note after the fact.)

Go enjoy your bit of superiority as AE burns around you. Clue for you: your arcs aren't the next great piece of literature that will be celebrated throughout time. People play differently than you - yes, even play regular arcs differently from you - and have different ways of dealing with situations.

Congrats, you have driven away someone who used to enjoy AE, because frankly, in this thread and the other, this is the worst treatment I think I've ever seen from any group. And I'm finding myself firing right back and falling down to your levels, and that's not me.

What I don't understand is why this was necessary at all. If maxing damage and defense was causing some people to be able to kill mobs too fast, isn't that explicitly what MARTy was introduced to combat?

Or are we chalking MARTy up in the "phail" column?

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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike English does not borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, hits them over the head, and rifles through their pockets for loose grammar.

This doesn't really fix anything. Just email yourself all the inspers.

And marty wasn't designed to the best of my knowledge to identify people buff capping their toons. What you can do with this trick is buff cap your toon and have your mobs set at +4x8, on a toon that wouldn't normally be able to handle it. You're not so much farming fast enough to trigger marty, but killing above the normal capabilities of the toon under normal situations. But again, this doesn't do anything. Just email yourself inspers and claim-buff.

As was noted earlier in the thread this change only hits people self-pling CEBR missions. It won't change my farming one iota nor slow down pl runs. Until a couple of days ago I didn't even notice that there was an insp vendor right outside of the AE terminals. The ambush change also doesn't do anything since I cap after the second ambush anyhow.

What is this CEBR?

It's an approach to AE mission design targeted fairly specifically at Brutes, that exemplars you to extremely low level. At very low levels, mobs give an exemplared level 50 much higher rewards/HP. Many ATs can't leverage this strongly, because at very low levels, you have few attacks, and your enhancements are degraded to miniscule levels. Brutes, more than nearly any other AT, function extremely efficiently at these levels, because Fury is a large damage bonus that almost no other AT can replicate, available at level one. If you ran into a mission hopped up to the damage cap on red inspirations, you could run around smashing boss-rank mobs, which pour inspirations on you and would also pop and sustain your Fury bar higher than normally possible.

That's the essence of it, from what I understand.

I'm confused, this will have a minimal (if any) affect on PL'ing but everyone here seems to be happy that the developers put resources into a change that only affects a very small slice of the PL'ing population. It really only affects people who wanted to self PL a /FA or /Elec brute which NEVER resulted in going 1-50 in several hours.

I'm no farmer, but I hate to see this happen. I can't think of the number of times I've been on a pick-up team in the AE that got wiped fast because some bozo set the difficulty too high or the team was split up and uncoordinated. Being able to slam down a bunch of quick inspirations and blitz into a mission to try to help folks get back on their feet has been very helpful for me in the past at such moments--not a matter of eating a billion purples and reds to smash mob after mob, but a matter of getting something going so I could try to help out flagging teammates.

Oh well.

Masterminds absolutely HAVE to summon their pets inside the mission, every mission. It's why I don't take my mastermind into AE much any more. Now this?

I guess this also hoses stuff like Speed Boost, Adrenalin Boost, Mystic Fortune, most Defenders, and the like, right?

You're right I didn't discover the CEBR variant until long past needing it, but unless there is an outright bug in how the XP is being calculated I don't believe it was possible. Relying on going to the insp vendor each time between runs slows you down significantly.