What is the ambush nerd?

You might want to take another look at what I said, since I was replying to someone regarding farming. Please don't put words in my mouth and quote me out of context.

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Only way this would affect most people I play with would be double-dipping on non-stacking buffs.
I think I just witnessed a "No more changes to powers" being born...

You are quoting Posi from a thread about a specific subsystem, and then assuming his statement there applies to policy for the ENTIRE game from there on out?

Logic fail.

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And that would be relevant why?

Considering that's who they have time and again said they made AE for, and not as an XP machine, there's really nothing for farmers to complain about.

If the storytellers are a minority, it's not because of the system, it's because farmers descended on the glaring loopholes like ravening locusts, and made inhabiting the same gamespace difficult if not impossible.

When my girlfriend and I tried to make an AE only supergroup after it was added, it quickly became very difficult to find fun arcs for our groups to run, and additional teammates because people who hung out at the AE were always looking for farms.

The reports are that it affects inspirations only.

Not according to Stone Daemon's video.

Noted.

I just tested. My own testing shows it does not affect normal (non-AE) door missions, on entry or exit. For long-lasting buffs that aren't insprirations, it only affects AE missions on exit, not entry. (Any exiting of the AE mission applied, not just mission complete.)

I tested using Barrier.

So I'm not seeing a major imposition on most folks. It seems quite the edge case to be concerned about non-farmers who are trying to stack buffs through zoning after exiting a mish, and even then, in the AE only.

Frankly, as oddball as that combination of factors is (on exit only in AE only), I'm not 100% sure that one's not a bug. Paranoia about it being an anti-farming measure of some sort is reasonable, but I really not sure what that particular one does to usefully hinder farming.

If that's the worst nightmare that boy ever gave you, consider yourself very, very lucky.

I used to fiddle with my back feet music for a black onyx. My entire room absorbed every echo. The music was . . . thud like. The music was . . . thud like. I usually played such things as rough-neck and thug. Opaque melodies that would bug most people. Music from the other side of the fence.

Your right.

it was totally my fault that there are plenty of people who see "AE team looking for more", join, and then get pissed when it's actual story arcs, accusing me of lying.

What does that have to do with what he said?

Yes, what does this have to do with what I wrote????

Don't you mean "a superstitious, cowardly lot"?

That would be Protean.

This does not make any sense.

It's a Batman thing. Criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot. But its not funny now that I've had to explain it.

Every change is a reduction on somethings capability relative to something else, so every change is a nerf by this nomenclature. Sure, oft times that's how it's used in practice, but that means it's a basically useless word, unless you really just mean change and want to freight some negative connotation in there.

I always thought it had a more precise meaning, and was over (and mis) used. But if it does just mean a change, I guess it isn't overused.

It doesn't need to be, and hasn't been, 'disincentivized.' It's just been put on even footing with non-AE farming. The incentive to farm in AE is now closer to the incentive to farm any other map.

As to teh argument about fun, if it was fun because of the activity, it will still be fun. If it wasn't fun, but getting the rewards was the only motivation, then the idea by normalizing teh reward to even with other forms of farming is that the farmers won't feel the need to continue with an activity that is less fun just for the sake of the better reward scale. If you prefer to farm AE now that it's rewards are more closely even with the other forms of farming, by all means, enjoy yourself, and keep at it, but if you prefer to farm some of the Unai missions, and had stopped because AE farming is more lucrative, the hope is that now you'll go back to farming what you enjoy. Because if you're having more fun,and getting the rewards of farming as opposed to just getting rewards but not having as much fun, you'll stick with the game for longer.

So, I don't think it has anything to do with their ego, but their pocketbooks. And I can totally understand and respect a company wanting to make money, and help it's players have more fun. And, as a bonus to me, the longer they are around, the longer I have the choice to subscribe and play the game.

I'm not sure I see the value of trying to figure out why people farm one particular map over another. Why should the devs care? How can they possibly know how much "fun" any farmer is having from map to map, and from farm method to farm method? And why does it matter? They are doing it for whatever reason motivates them, be it fun, greed, or a desire to reach the level cap as fast as possible.

As I've said before, farming for xp is a symptom of a failure on the part of the game to give players a better way to start an alt at level 50 right from the start. Leveling Pacts are (were?) a concession to this issue, but only a half-hearted one at best (and even they are unavailable to new toons right now). Farming for inf or any other sort of drop is really no different than farming for xp in terms of the driving forces behind it. Some people are just really impatient, and many of them would gladly pay real world money to bypass the 1-50 leveling grind and be IO'ed out the wazoo instantly. Sounds like a potential revenue stream that NCSoft is just plain disregarding...