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This had better not be Awake and Alive.
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Originally Posted by FourSpeed
And your SC Stalker's name is?
They're easy to play if you like being dead a lot... They're easy to play if you don't care about getting kills. Note: I've stated that I'm against Sharks as the *only* tool a Stalker should use. That said, my particular stalker (NB/Nin) does not *have* a ranged attack unless I use Sharks or Nemmie Staff. Maybe if something like Caltrops actually worked in zone - I wouldn't need one. Of course, that's why everyone takes SJ/SS, so they can completely ignore them. So, your answer then is - pick another powerset, noob...  Right, and *that* more than anything is what is wrong about PvP - most powersets are crap in PvP - which is why you typically see the same 1/2 dozen ATs. That brings me full-circle to - devs need to fix (or delete) PvP... It's not about this or that power - it's about a seriously crappy system and implementation in the first place... 4 |
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So, your basic premise then, is if a stalker has to have tri-level stealth to even|
Originally Posted by AresSupreme
Which you've stated like 15 times. You don't agree. I get it.
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have a prayer in SC - that's ok by you.
If a Stalker has to try to get an AS off (that won't actually kill anybody), from visible
melee range, without it getting interrupted by movement or aura against a fast
moving target, that's ok with you.
If a Stalker can't even use a follow-up attack due to not having ranged powers,
that's ok with you.
But if a Stalker spikes you with Sharks, that's game-breaking and you feel a
compelling need to scream "Foul!" to the devs and call for a nerf...
Ok - I think I have a pretty clear understanding of your whiny position now...
Carry On.
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I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
Blaze mastery.
That is all.
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Sorry, My Bad - I don't get the reference. |
Originally Posted by AresSupreme
This had better not be Awake and Alive.
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I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
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This is why people roll spines stalkers and now KM stalker. You have to make a choice. It's the basic premise of any mmo.
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Originally Posted by FourSpeed
So, your basic premise then, is if a stalker has to have tri-level stealth to even
have a prayer in SC - that's ok by you. If a Stalker has to try to get an AS off (that won't actually kill anybody), from visible melee range, without it getting interrupted by movement or aura against a fast moving target, that's ok with you. If a Stalker can't even use a follow-up attack due to not having ranged powers, that's ok with you. But if a Stalker spikes you with Sharks, that's game-breaking and you feel a compelling need to scream "Foul!" to the devs and call for a nerf... Ok - I think I have a pretty clear understanding of your whiny position now... Carry On. 4 |
Ares..... Roll a widow, cap your perception, and call it day. No one wants to hear you whine.
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Originally Posted by wriath
Ares..... Roll a widow, cap your perception, and call it day. No one wants to hear you whine.
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"This I can totally sign off on."
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I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
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Whine because something needs a fix? Then I guess the rest of the PVP community needs to stfu about CS, psy blasters, placate procs, tk, regen, HD, TS, DR, stalagmites, and a host of other things.|
Originally Posted by wriath
Ares..... Roll a widow, cap your perception, and call it day. No one wants to hear you whine.
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Way to avoid logic once again though. If you want a ranged stalker, you certainly have that option.
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15 posts and two of them are you trolling my thread. Go figure.
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Originally Posted by wriath
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Please troll to this instead, thank you. |
12281 people talking
Do you think travel supression should be removed from City of Heroes pvp?
I do.
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Thus why I usually pick up Sharks, so that I may 'range' in any combat (Pvp/Pve alike). |
Originally Posted by AresSupreme
If you want a ranged stalker, you certainly have that option.
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Yes, I can get a moving AS off on you, but to follow that up I would have to basically pray that you get stuck on a fence or giant rock somewhere so that my dark melee can at least get into range or hope that you do something very stupid to get a second AS on top of the first if you have not already 'evaded/healed' in the process; and please tell me that you do evade/counter when you get striked, otherwise that's just another face palm altogether.
I did not say Sharks was not OP, it does deal a good chunk for an 'Epic' pool, but like I said before, learn to adapt to your environment; just like how everyone else has to in a pvp zone.
Just saying, there are worst things out there than a hungry shark, the fullscreen view of Mother Mayhem for example.. psh, just get TK (if you can at that level?) and hold that sucker down, then see who is having fun now, because it sure isn't that stalker.
This is once again MY personal opinion, just like this 'nerf' is YOUR personal
opinion.
Don't get upset, bro.
"I'M THE TARGET! I'M THE TARGET! THE STALKER HAS SHARKS! AP...AP!!"
@Sepultura
'You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.'
@Sepultura
'You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.'
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I don't care whether sharks gets nerfed or not so stop saying that. Just move it.
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Originally Posted by Crusherina
Thus why I usually pick up Sharks, so that I may 'range' in any combat (Pvp/Pve alike).
Yes, I can get a moving AS off on you, but to follow that up I would have to basically pray that you get stuck on a fence or giant rock somewhere so that my dark melee can at least get into range or hope that you do something very stupid to get a second AS on top of the first if you have not already 'evaded/healed' in the process; and please tell me that you do evade/counter when you get striked, otherwise that's just another face palm altogether. I did not say Sharks was not OP, it does deal a good chunk for an 'Epic' pool, but like I said before, learn to adapt to your environment; just like how everyone else has to in a pvp zone. Just saying, there are worst things out there than a hungry shark, the fullscreen view of Mother Mayhem for example.. psh, just get TK (if you can at that level?) and hold that sucker down, then see who is having fun now, because it sure isn't that stalker. This is once again MY personal opinion, just like this 'nerf' is YOUR personal opinion. Don't get upset, bro. |
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I run around in sirens when i'm bored. I die when i drone myself.|
Originally Posted by FourSpeed
And your SC Stalker's name is?
They're easy to play if you like being dead a lot... They're easy to play if you don't care about getting kills. Note: I've stated that I'm against Sharks as the *only* tool a Stalker should use. That said, my particular stalker (NB/Nin) does not *have* a ranged attack unless I use Sharks or Nemmie Staff. Maybe if something like Caltrops actually worked in zone - I wouldn't need one. Of course, that's why everyone takes SJ/SS, so they can completely ignore them. So, your answer then is - pick another powerset, noob... Right, and *that* more than anything is what is wrong about PvP - most powersets are crap in PvP - which is why you typically see the same 1/2 dozen ATs. That brings me full-circle to - devs need to fix (or delete) PvP... It's not about this or that power - it's about a seriously crappy system and implementation in the first place... 4 |
Getting kills isnt an issue either since most squshies has no res armor in there so you don't really need sharks.
Also if you look at your buffbar/tohitrolls sharks isnt that much of an issue unless you are low on health and have no greens.
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So you want me to redo all six of my stalker's builds because you had a bad Jaws experience as a kid? Sounds more of a hinderance to me. |
Originally Posted by AresSupreme
I don't care whether sharks gets nerfed or not so stop saying that. Just move it.
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Nerf:
To weaken or make less dangerous.
You want to 'move' a power so that it is 'less' dangerous to you in a zone, still a nerf my son.
"I'M THE TARGET! I'M THE TARGET! THE STALKER HAS SHARKS! AP...AP!!"
@Sepultura
'You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.'
@Sepultura
'You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.'
More request's for power's to be nerfed is sad. PVP is in the state it is now because people crying for nerf's since it was to fast for the so called casual player who never step's into an arena match or zone.
I dont have shark's on my stalk because I really dont need it, and im not knocking anyone who does. The fact is stalker's are really not a threat even with shark's. Plus it's not like the DEV's have any intention of fixing broken or op powers anyway so deal with it.
So why complain about it ? KM scrapper's and CS which is OP as hell does some serious damage on a AT that is more surviveable. It is what it is, plus like metioned before stalagmites in a lowbie zone is a done deal aswell.
ALL I REALLY WANT IS TO BE ABLE TO GET SCRAPPER LVL HP ( 1800 im not greedy lol) ON MY FORT SINCE THEY TOOK THAT HELLISH NERF TO DEF AND DMG : )
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These are pretty much facts if you don't have ****** builds.
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Originally Posted by FourSpeed
No - you're expressing opinions: Sharks is OP, Blasters are less survivable
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[U][URL="http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=251594"][/URL][/U]
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thank you lol
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Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer
These are pretty much facts if you don't have ****** builds.
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Chicken Nuggets: 0-9...
A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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Originally Posted by Black_Barrier
Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...
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I'm telling you man, those sharks are way over powered, especially when those pesky stalkers aren't on cue.|
Originally Posted by OPTICAL_ILLUSION
Chicken Nuggets: 0-9...
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Oh wait, was I suppose to be mad?
Give me a sec.. nope.
By the way hun, just because my team isn't the 'best' does not mean I don't have a voice in the matter.
<3
"I'M THE TARGET! I'M THE TARGET! THE STALKER HAS SHARKS! AP...AP!!"
@Sepultura
'You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.'
@Sepultura
'You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.'
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Originally Posted by Crusherina
So you want me to redo all six of my stalker's builds because you had a bad Jaws experience as a kid? Sounds more of a hinderance to me.
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So a power that is now being used in a zone it was never intended to be used in just so you don't have to be inconvenienced is acceptable to you? The fact that you have six Stalkers tells me you are more interested in protecting your self interests than in protecting what little integrity PvP may have left. Try to be a little less selfish, m'k?
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Note also that he doesn't playing in sirens ever ever ever.
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Originally Posted by Antigonus
So a power that is now being used in a zone it was never intended to be used in just so you don't have to be inconvenienced is acceptable to you? The fact that you have six Stalkers tells me you are more interested in protecting your self interests than in protecting what little integrity PvP may have left. Try to be a little less selfish, m'k?
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I vote yes! Yes they should!|
Originally Posted by AresSupreme
Whine because something needs a fix? Then I guess the rest of the PVP community needs to stfu about CS, psy blasters, placate procs, tk, regen, HD, TS, DR, stalagmites, and a host of other things.
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Also... from reading this thread I can see that I'm starting to rub off on some of yous.
On Topic: LOL @ Stalkity Stalkers in SC.
To the OP: In the future... I'd encourage you to start a thread that requests advice on dealing with the change... before making one that assumes the change is incapable of being dealt with.
"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
Not to mention i've gone on record to fully support the PVP community in the removal or TS and HD and will continue to do so.
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