So I Can Solo AV's and GM's. Now what?
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Posted on: 2011-10-30 21:03 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
So you've tackled monsters and AV's? Farmed on +4x8 without batting an eyelash? It must be time to go play the game. 
Don't get me wrong, I definitely think it's awesome to maximize character performance, but that shouldn't leave anyone in a "now what?" position. There's lots of new low-mid level content to do, for example. All new blue and redside arcs, First Ward, and of course the SSA's.
If you're interested in stories and/or exploring the revamped/new zones, this is a great time to do that. It'll also give you an opportunity to play sets or combinations you've been curious about, just for the fun of it.
I'm a big fan of getting the most out of my favorite characters, which leads to me being a sort of anti-altoholic, but that's not to say that there's anything wrong with trying new things 'for the heck of it.' This game has tons of content and potential for variety- There's nothing wrong with dipping your toes into things you haven't experienced yet.
One single AV at once?? ... I think the record is around 11 simultaneously 
I've no idea what the best farming content would be for such a character but one could certainly go in search of or perhaps create it in AE.
And I'll second TwoHeadedBoys thoughts.
Solo a harder AV or GM.
The higher level they are the more difficult.
I'd try the Rikti GM on the mothership. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone soloing it.
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Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
I'd try the Rikti GM on the mothership. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone soloing it.
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I would start working on solo TF/SFs, too. And then, Mastery of same.
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I have to ask... you can solo AV's and GM's WHAT? What can they possibly own that you can solo?
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
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As others said, ramp up the challenge.
Have you done these with your Illu/Cold?
- Solo a level 54 AV
- Solo multiple AVs at once
- Solo multiple GMs at once
- Solo a MoXTF
- Solo a TF at +4/x8
There are many things you can do for challenge, that's just a short version. For the record, I've done all of those on my Illu/Cold except for a solo MoTF due to lack of playing time (curse you, military!).
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This. And once you do it, try and do it faster. Ill/Cold is a very safe (yet powerful) combo, however due to the limitations of uncommandable pets (not to mention simply being pets in general)that make up a large portion of the set's dps, doing content exceptionally fast (total time in a TF) can be a bit more difficult than simply soloing a single AV/GM.
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Originally Posted by DSorrow
As others said, ramp up the challenge.
Have you done these with your Illu/Cold?
There are many things you can do for challenge, that's just a short version. For the record, I've done all of those on my Illu/Cold except for a solo MoTF due to lack of playing time (curse you, military!). |
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The ability to destroy a GM is insignificant next to the power of the Farm.|
Originally Posted by icemanstryketh
Is there any farmable content that would benefit exceptionally well by the ability to solo AV's and GM's?
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Ahem.
No, there really isn't. If all you want to do is farm, you're probably better off sticking with your brute.
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
I have to ask... you can solo AV's and GM's WHAT? What can they possibly own that you can solo?
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Never heard of colloquial usage of apostrophes?
And some people are worried that Illusion would be overpowered on Doms lol.
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And some people are worried that Illusion would be overpowered on Doms lol.
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Originally Posted by DSorrow
As others said, ramp up the challenge.
Have you done these with your Illu/Cold?
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Id also like to add solo AV's and GM's...but faster. Sure u can solo an AV/GM but can u do it in 30 seconds?
As far as your mention of farming, not really. Farming in this game needs AoE, u might be able to PL pretty well but i dont see you making a lot of inf.
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The tricky part of that is actually getting him to spawn. I don't know how his hp compares to normal AVs, but I'd bet an Ill/Cold could solo him given time. Could probably even solo him quickly with Lore pets. |
Originally Posted by Aneko
He's been done in by a duo, at least.
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When Kahlan and I duoed the MS raid U'Kon only took a while to kill because he was running all over the place. If either of us could have held him in place I bet we'd have dropped him in a fraction of the time.
PA solves that issue handily.
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i like to make other toons to be able to do this, yes i have an ill/cold who can solo AVs easily and whatnot, but i have other toons to fill in niches that the ill/cold cant
i have a mind/fire dom which ive used to solo ITF and could solo LRSF and i have a demon/trap toon that im working on who can solo GMs and AVs (scrappy is a PITA though with all his running)
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I remember hearing of this a while back, but I forget what powers the 2 characters had. Could you refresh my memory?
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Originally Posted by Silas
The tricky part of that is actually getting him to spawn. I don't know how his hp compares to normal AVs, but I'd bet an Ill/Cold could solo him given time. Could probably even solo him quickly with Lore pets.
When Kahlan and I duoed the MS raid U'Kon only took a while to kill because he was running all over the place. If either of us could have held him in place I bet we'd have dropped him in a fraction of the time. PA solves that issue handily. |
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Originally Posted by Pyro_Master_NA
I remember hearing of this a while back, but I forget what powers the 2 characters had. Could you refresh my memory?
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he has around 73,000 ish hp, approx the same as the DE monsters in the hive
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Originally Posted by Silas
The tricky part of that is actually getting him to spawn. I don't know how his hp compares to normal AVs, but I'd bet an Ill/Cold could solo him given time. Could probably even solo him quickly with Lore pets.
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Originally Posted by icemanstryketh
I finally built up the ridiculously expensive ill/cold toon. I am wondering how best to utilize this toon for fun and profit. I would like to retire my ss/fa brute because, well I'm sick of mashing footstomp all day. I figure if I have a toon which can solo AV's and GM's he should be the end all be all and I wouldn't want for anything ever again, right?
Is there any farmable content that would benefit exceptionally well by the ability to solo AV's and GM's? I suppose I'd like to be able to fund myself with this toon and if possible help SGmates level if need be. |
Seriously, a single GM or AV is doable by most characters nowadays.
What you want to see is if you can solo a GM who takes advantages of your toons WEAKNESES. Or one against whom your strengths are mitigated.
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Well then that combined with my own experience leads me to believe he would be very soloable. We were able to spawn him with two bombs, not sure if he can be spawned with just one. I doubt it.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
he has around 73,000 ish hp, approx the same as the DE monsters in the hive
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can always test it in AE, his natural level is 54 but GM scaling code makes it irrelevant
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Originally Posted by Silas
Well then that combined with my own experience leads me to believe he would be very soloable. We were able to spawn him with two bombs, not sure if he can be spawned with just one. I doubt it.
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Well most of you missed the point of the thread, this wasn't an attempt at gloating, or whining.
The question was, is there any content that is profitable with this character? And from the answers that were on track with the premise of the thread, I gather the answer is still no.
[Conclusion]~No one large target is not as profitable as 100 smaller targets with AOE. That's all I wanted to know.~
Now what about an AE arc full of Giant Monsters and AV's? Are there any repeatable AV's or GM's in the game that are repeatable? Answer still no?
Also thank you Necro for the reply, Mind/fire have been in the back of my mind for some time. I've always toyed with the idea of rolling some type of mind control toon.
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If that's all you're interested in, then I can't help you. I play for fun, not profit.
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Originally Posted by icemanstryketh
No one large target is not as profitable as 100 smaller targets with AOE. That's all I wanted to know.
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'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
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'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.
Actually, playing pretty much any character will be profitable since inf and drops simply poof into existence when you kill things. The only 'cost' so to speak is time.
Speaking as someone who plays for fun and profit, smashing lots of little things quickly or not smashing things at all and playing the market are the most profitable.
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I finally built up the ridiculously expensive ill/cold toon. I am wondering how best to utilize this toon for fun and profit. I would like to retire my ss/fa brute because, well I'm sick of mashing footstomp all day. I figure if I have a toon which can solo AV's and GM's he should be the end all be all and I wouldn't want for anything ever again, right?
Is there any farmable content that would benefit exceptionally well by the ability to solo AV's and GM's?
I suppose I'd like to be able to fund myself with this toon and if possible help SGmates level if need be.