Question for League Emps: Ideal Hitpoints?
By
Borderline Boss,
Posted on: 2011-10-18 24:36 in Everything about PvP
I haven't played the game for three years and even I can tell you that 50 hp won't be enough to save you if you're going to die anyways. Go for the extra range.
VORI
50 HP can be the difference between getting away with 10 HP off an AP and dieing... My emp is missing Invader and their's times where I will die in AP after phasing from delayed damage where I would have lived with an extra 50 HP.
On an emp, that 50 HP can be pretty important... On other squishies (Rad for example) I think that 50 HP is somewhat less important. When you AP on an emp all you have to rely on is your HP, so that's why I would lean towards the HP.
I guess if I were you I would feel out how comfortable evading on your emp you are, and base if off that.
Having 50 HP less than cap won't break the toon, but I think there would be times where you would wish that you had it.
@TheKatalyst
My **** is bleeding.
How much more range are you getting?
Quote:
+30%, so around +25ft extra on the heals.|
Originally Posted by DaveMebs
How much more range are you getting?
|
HP is at 1570. So only ~35 off the cap.
Quote:
If you have to AP and are at low enough health to die because you APd, you should not be Emping.
|
Originally Posted by _Velociteh_
50 HP can be the difference between getting away with 10 HP off an AP and dieing... My emp is missing Invader and their's times where I will die in AP after phasing from delayed damage where I would have lived with an extra 50 HP.
On an emp, that 50 HP can be pretty important... On other squishies (Rad for example) I think that 50 HP is somewhat less important. When you AP on an emp all you have to rely on is your HP, so that's why I would lean towards the HP. I guess if I were you I would feel out how comfortable evading on your emp you are, and base if off that. Having 50 HP less than cap won't break the toon, but I think there would be times where you would wish that you had it. |
VORI
Chaos knows his stuff.
Quote:
Is that an extra 30% on top of what you already have or total? If its total, you need more range.
|
Originally Posted by Xanatos
+30%, so around +25ft extra on the heals.
HP is at 1570. So only ~35 off the cap. |
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Xanatos
1550 Hp vs 1606 HP
Is there a noticeable difference in survivability between the two? I'm currently on 1594 HP. Is it worth trading some of that HP to get +range on the heals? |
Pretty much a good trade off for the xtra range as long as your + heal and + recharge do not suffer too much. Since your good at evasion and carry greens that 35 hp will not make a difference but + 30% range means you are getting a heal off that much sooner. I am guessing ill/emp and slotting blind and flash with glad nets?
Quote:
HP's comment was actually sarcasm! You know nothing! Thanks for your 2cents but we don't need your donations!
|
Originally Posted by Empathetic Chaos
If you have to AP and are at low enough health to die because you APd, you should not be Emping.
|
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6685529/3-hot-and-vex-3
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Xanatos
1550 Hp vs 1606 HP
Is there a noticeable difference in survivability between the two? I'm currently on 1594 HP. Is it worth trading some of that HP to get +range on the heals? |
Stick with more HP and +Heal Mod, tell your blasters to stick with the spike group/target caller and range won't be a huge issue.
Or, realistically, you don't need to choose. You can have epic range and the HP. Even cheap Emp builds reach nearly cap HP, if not cap, while still having additional range.
You really should be able to hit the HP cap without trying overly much. What's your overall range bonus?
"His Imperial Majesty's Minister of Restraints and Leather" -LHF
Two naughty acronym teams / Ascension / Convenient / Artic and the Chillz / Fap / Other teams I can't remember (sorry.. mind is goin')
Current stats:
1575 HP
42.5% +range bonus
Gonna test this out and see how it goes. Cheers for the help amigos.
Just wanted to echo what Lib and Jimmay said about +Heal bonuses, because that can also be important for an 8v8 Emp, incase you weren't considering that also.
@TheKatalyst
My **** is bleeding.
Quote:
Yeah I've also got +30% heal bonus & Spiritual Radial Paragon.
|
Originally Posted by _Velociteh_
Just wanted to echo what Lib and Jimmay said about +Heal bonuses, because that can also be important for an 8v8 Emp, incase you weren't considering that also.
|
Quote:
chill homie, cardiac
|
Originally Posted by Xanatos
Yeah I've also got +30% heal bonus & Spiritual Radial Paragon.
|
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6685529/3-hot-and-vex-3
Cardiac gives a lot of range. Depending on what team a healer is emping for and against, either one may be better.
Quote:
This whole debate is pointless for the reason that Dex stated. Vex probably has a dope build he could give you.
|
Originally Posted by Dexington
Or, realistically, you don't need to choose. You can have epic range and the HP. Even cheap Emp builds reach nearly cap HP, if not cap, while still having additional range.
|
Quote:
Ah dope. I'll pester him next time I see him. |
Originally Posted by Silit
This whole debate is pointless for the reason that Dex stated. Vex probably has a dope build he could give you.
|
Quote:
Good luck with that, sir. I heard he got perma'd.
|
Originally Posted by Xanatos
Ah dope. I'll pester him next time I see him.
|
That sucks. I hope not. 
"His Imperial Majesty's Minister of Restraints and Leather" -LHF
Two naughty acronym teams / Ascension / Convenient / Artic and the Chillz / Fap / Other teams I can't remember (sorry.. mind is goin')
fun facts.
the range difference between T3 and T4 Cardiac is about 1ft.
T4 Cardiac gives about 12ft range boost (assuming a heal with 2 range IO's and 35% global range)
all numbers are DR'd and not fact checked.
perma jump is ---> /up 1
Quote:
fact...|
Originally Posted by Hindenburg
fun facts.
the range difference between T3 and T4 Cardiac is about 1ft. T4 Cardiac gives about 12ft range boost (assuming a heal with 2 range IO's and 35% global range) all numbers are DR'd and not fact checked. |
Real emps don't need either, if you know where they are going to spike next then range is not nessesary...
To be fair, what's needed and what's nice to have are two different things.
"His Imperial Majesty's Minister of Restraints and Leather" -LHF
Two naughty acronym teams / Ascension / Convenient / Artic and the Chillz / Fap / Other teams I can't remember (sorry.. mind is goin')
1550 Hp vs 1606 HP
Is there a noticeable difference in survivability between the two?
I'm currently on 1594 HP. Is it worth trading some of that HP to get +range on the heals?