Maneuvers FX?
By
Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2011-10-17 22:14 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
*shrug* Doesn't bother me in the slightest.
I have never had issue with either of the powers you mentioned.
Frankly of ALL the powers in the game, these are two of the LAST powers I would have any issues with the graphics of.
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I would loooove to have a No FX option for near everything in the game (as well as an option to turn off FX for inspirations). I know I used a [luck], I don't need purple shields all around me. :P
So yes, I know where you are coming from.
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If he took weave he'd complain about the movements that his character makes upon activating the power. 
I know, right?
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Hasten is much much worse. Maneuvers I can deal with
Yeah, Maneuvers and Combat Jumping are some of the least visually intrusive powers in the game. I have no problems with their graphics being the way they are.
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Paragon's emergency medical personnel have been flooded with gruesome facial burn cases due to Hasten users trying the new "facepalm" emote.
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Originally Posted by Dz131
Hasten is much much worse.
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Your assumption...while humorous...is untrue...as I already have and use weave.|
Originally Posted by RevolverMike
If he took weave he'd complain about the movements that his character makes upon activating the power.
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Don't get me wrong...I absolutely know that I am in the minority here...as most players only care about numbers.
The look of my character is tops for me. Whether I'm playing CoH or when I was playing Champions...the look is the most important thing for me. Although my OP was more along the lines of venting and ranting...FX (and hopefully the option to remove FX in the future) is something I definitely care about...because it does get to a point of where you really have to sacrifice for your look...and that is very unfortunate.
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I like the look of my characters, too. More so than needing them to be numerically tops. Even then I don't mind these graphics, but maybe that's because I'm used to much, much worse offenders, like Ice Armor and Energy Aura.|
Originally Posted by Vitality
Your assumption...while humorous...is untrue...as I already have and use weave.
Don't get me wrong...I absolutely know that I am in the minority here...as most players only care about numbers. The look of my character is tops for me. Whether I'm playing CoH or when I was playing Champions...the look is the most important thing for me. Although my OP was more along the lines of venting and ranting...FX (and hopefully the option to remove FX in the future) is something I definitely care about...because is does get to a point of where you really have to sacrifice for your look...and that is very unfortunate. |
I have never thought to myself that Maneuver's graphics interfered with my look. It's such a minor effect.
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"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
/suppressclosefxdist 255 and /suppressclosefx 1 is your best bet.
I would love for a No FX option as well - but as should be obvious by many of the answers:
1) for most people, it isn't a problem
2) most people don't consider something a problem unless it affects them personally
So I'm not holding my breath for a fix.
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I get that to the OP it's a problem. I also wouldn't mind if the Devs created a "No FX" version of every power in the game. I'm just surprised that the OP has chosen two of the least offensive visuals in the game to complain about when there are so many worse offenders out there.
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Originally Posted by Nihilii
/suppressclosefxdist 255 and /suppressclosefx 1 is your best bet.
I would love for a No FX option as well - but as should be obvious by many of the answers: 1) for most people, it isn't a problem 2) most people don't consider something a problem unless it affects them personally So I'm not holding my breath for a fix. |
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"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
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Sorry...I would have probably chosen more...but I can only go by what I have used and seen personally. Hasten would be one of them, but I gave up on that power because of its FX some time ago...and I already started a suggestion thread about Rage FX removal.|
Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
I get that to the OP it's a problem. I also wouldn't mind if the Devs created a "No FX" version of every power in the game. I'm just surprised that the OP has chosen two of the least offensive visuals in the game to complain about when there are so many worse offenders out there.
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Also...it just goes to show how bad this game is on power FX when a constantly pulsing purple shield is one of the least offensive visuals out there.
Again...I admit my post was more of a rant...so I'm not trying to start any arguments here...just hoping to get something done about power FX.
Doesn't bug me in the slightest, but I wouldn't argue with a "No FX" option.
That said, this should probably be down in suggestions.
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I'd say you're wrong on that.|
Originally Posted by Vitality
Your assumption...while humorous...is untrue...as I already have and use weave.
Don't get me wrong...I absolutely know that I am in the minority here...as most players only care about numbers. The look of my character is tops for me. Whether I'm playing CoH or when I was playing Champions...the look is the most important thing for me. Although my OP was more along the lines of venting and ranting...FX (and hopefully the option to remove FX in the future) is something I definitely care about...because it does get to a point of where you really have to sacrifice for your look...and that is very unfortunate. |
But here's the thing. You say you only care about the looks, but then how do you deal with all those powersets with graphics attached to them?
Do you not roll ELA, FA, EA? Those options to hide INV, WP, SR, REGEN graphics...yeeeaaah, havent had those options for even half the time those powers were available.
I use Hasten on a character with Hasten...I don't think their hands glow, I think it's just an effect of the power to let the person know they activated it. It's not that hard to live with.
Now of course, some will incorporate such graphics into their characters, but I know I never thought any of my Regen characters where glowing bright green everytime they healed damage, as part of their concept.
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Sorry for assuming.|
Originally Posted by BrandX
I'd say you're wrong on that.
But here's the thing. You say you only care about the looks, but then how do you deal with all those powersets with graphics attached to them? Do you not roll ELA, FA, EA? Those options to hide INV, WP, SR, REGEN graphics...yeeeaaah, havent had those options for even half the time those powers were available. I use Hasten on a character with Hasten...I don't think their hands glow, I think it's just an effect of the power to let the person know they activated it. It's not that hard to live with. Now of course, some will incorporate such graphics into their characters, but I know I never thought any of my Regen characters where glowing bright green everytime they healed damage, as part of their concept. |
I only play one character. I think that's the reason why I care about the look so much. So no, I don't use those other powersets...but even then, I would only use something if I had a concept for it.
Also...I did use Willpower back when it first came out...as that's when I first made my character. The glow of WP wasn't too bad (as at the time...it was the lesser of two "evils" between WP and Invuln)...although I was definitely pushing for the option to remove FX back then.
Again...in my opinion...a pulsing purple shield is very intrusive.
Anyways...we're getting to the point of arguing opinions...and I don't care to do that.
I find it intrusive...others don't. I completely understand that.
While I agree that these particular powers are not all that noticeable, I am also much like the OP in that aesthetics are more important than numbers (to a degree). My first character at release was a DM/DA scrapper. Once I got my third shield and realized I would forever be running around as a giant dust-bunny, I quickly lost interest and moved on to other characters. I need to revisit him one of these days now that there are minimal fx options.
Is it bad that I didn't even notice maneuvers had fx? Does it look like insp fx? I just ignore those as not part of my concept in the same way I ignore names/healthbars/targeting brackets/GUI Windows etc as not being part of my character.
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Dang, you beat me to it. I was about to post "Maneuvers has FX?"|
Originally Posted by Mr_Kingkillaha
Is it bad that I didn't even notice maneuvers had fx? Does it look like insp fx? I just ignore those as not part of my concept in the same way I ignore names/healthbars/targeting brackets/GUI Windows etc as not being part of my character.
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Because it doesn't. Other than the generic purple shields that nearly every defense buff in the game has attached, including popping insps.
I actually had been playing for over 3 years before i even noticed the pulsing shields. Imo, its not a problem.
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Just goes to show that people will find just about anything to complain about. Even the lack of things to complain about is grounds for complaining.
Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.
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Yes, you're are exactly right. I was searching and searching for something to complain about and I found it. Thankfully, because I didn't think I could go much longer without complaining.|
Originally Posted by _Pine_
Just goes to show that people will find just about anything to complain about. Even the lack of things to complain about is grounds for complaining.
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Thanks for hitting the nail on the head.
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This is my thinking as well. Nothing like having a fire-themed character and I'm walking around looking more Iced than Vanilla's career because a Cold Defender showed up.|
Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
I like the look of my characters, too. More so than needing them to be numerically tops. Even then I don't mind these graphics, but maybe that's because I'm used to much, much worse offenders, like Ice Armor and Energy Aura.
I have never thought to myself that Maneuver's graphics interfered with my look. It's such a minor effect. |
I appreciate the desire for fewer visual FX, this one just doesn't usually bug me unless I'm RPing - in which case it is off.
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It's not specifically that you went searching. However, if the thing that you are complaining about today (not just in this game, but even in real life) was fixed, you would still find something else to complain about. It wasn't fixed to your liking, the fix created new problems, you wish they would fix something else that is similar. It's just the way we humans work.|
Originally Posted by Vitality
Yes, you're are exactly right. I was searching and searching for something to complain about and I found it. Thankfully, because I didn't think I could go much longer without complaining.
Thanks for hitting the nail on the head. |
I also in no way imply that 'you' is specifically you personally Vitality. It is not directed towards you, but to us all as people. I'm in the same boat
Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.
Why...why...why?
Why does the purple defense buff FX have to CONSTANTLY pulse?
Is this there so that people don't choose this power?
I cannot stand having to make sacrifices because I care about the way my character looks.
It was my plan to take Maneuvers over Combat Jumping because CJ has the constant smoke or whatever you want to call it...at your feet and arms (and Maneuvers offers more defense). Now I have to choose the lesser of two "evils" (and unfortunately the lesser power) just to keep my character with minimal FX.
This is just crazy.
Please explain why all pool powers have such absurd FX.
The only reason I can think is because you really don't want people taking these powers.