Why VIPs get server transfer instead of 800 more points?
And if I had just won the lottery a world wide cruise round the world would seem pretty cheap to me. It's not cheap it's expensive. The more characters you have available the better return you get for your investment, but it is by no means cheap.
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Nice try but I only make eight grand a year, and it's still a bargain.
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I'm not sure I see the logical distinction. If the server transfers and PP stipends are not given out unless you subscribe, then in what way is it incorrect to say the monthly subscription is subsidizing them? Just because you can't opt-out of these bonuses--and therefore there is no explicit reimbursement for doing so--doesn't mean that NCSoft doesn't internally consider (and calculate) the market-value cost (as a portion of the subscription fee) to provide them as "perks".
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That 400 points of month, if saved, will go towards things like new powersets, and thusly the free points help maintain the same content as before Freedom.
But ten, the devs know there will be plenty of people who see the free points and go..."Oooh! Shiney I wanted, but may have never bought before if it was included in a paid for booster!" *spend points*
Then smile as they release the content you would of gotten free, if you saved your points, and then paid for them with the free PP instead.
You can see it on the forums already. People complaining about having to buy powersets and not having any points. They spent them
And that's what the devs want. They want you spending the points on the little shinies, so when the big ones come out you're all "D'OH!" and then spending extra.
And for those who just say "Frag it. I'll save up my next two months of free PP."? Then they just say "Well, we were never going to get them to spend extra anyways."
It's win/win for them! Either you're staying subscribed or you're spending extra Making money either way.
Now the one's they're losing money on, are the total F2P, who will actually continue to play, and evr so slooowly work their way up the tier's (which what...4 years for tier 3?) , but for those, they're just wasting bandwidth, while giving their payingsubcribers a potential teammate, and making the servers look busier.
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Actually, the server transfers can have other uses. I used 2 of them as a MacGyvered name change for one of my toons yesterday.
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I don't want to move any of my characters either, but there have been a few I wanted to rename.
By giving me a free transfer every month, they are effectively giving me a free rename every other month.
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And they know that a server transfer is giving nothing to 99% of the players, I know I'll likely never use one, ever. So, they are giving me nothing.
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That said, I don't think it's 99% of the player base this is useless for.
I just used one of mine to move a 50 from Virtue to Exalted. Sooo...since I don't consider myself any more special than any other player, and thusly just one of the common folk, it would seem to be that the server transfers will be commonly used.
Is it the reward I would have prefered? Naaa. Free rename tokens would of been better for me. But eh, it's not like I haven't spent money on a rename token before.
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Now the one's they're losing money on, are the total F2P, who will actually continue to play, and evr so slooowly work their way up the tier's (which what...4 years for tier 3?) , but for those, they're just wasting bandwidth, while giving their payingsubcribers a potential teammate, and making the servers look busier.
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The ones you're referring to are "premiums" and "potential premiums" (freemies who are willing to spend money).
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I'm a little surprised that no one thinks that this was given to VIPs because of the Exalted server. When that was announced, there was a lot of hue and cry about wanting free transfers to the Exalted server. I think that Paragon decided that this was a way to give VIPs a way to transfer their characters over to Exalted (albeit slowly), while selling more transfer tokens to the impatient ones (~99%).
I'm a little surprised that no one thinks that this was given to VIPs because of the Exalted server. When that was announced, there was a lot of hue and cry about wanting free transfers to the Exalted server. I think that Paragon decided that this was a way to give VIPs a way to transfer their characters over to Exalted (albeit slowly), while selling more transfer tokens to the impatient ones (~99%).
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I also realized another reason the devs want people on Exalted; Dropping Sub. If you move all your alts to exalted then decide you want to drop VIP you'd have to move your characters to a different server and lose your SG/Friends/etc all over again, "locking" you into staying VIP once you've labeled Exhaled home ebil Freedom Marketeers .
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I'm guessing that server transfers were the least purchased item pre-Freedom therefore giving them away "costs" Paragon/NCSoft the least in lost sales while giving VIPs the illusion of getting an expensive item for free.
I say illusion because an item that has no value to it's owner is worthless even if it has value to others.
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I'm a little surprised that no one thinks that this was given to VIPs because of the Exalted server. When that was announced, there was a lot of hue and cry about wanting free transfers to the Exalted server. I think that Paragon decided that this was a way to give VIPs a way to transfer their characters over to Exalted (albeit slowly), while selling more transfer tokens to the impatient ones (~99%).
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I think the main reason they decided to give the free transfer may have been in order to provide subscribers with a free way to move to the VIP only server.
When the new business model was initially announced, there was concern bout how the servers may be flooded with spammers, jerks and other such unsavory riffraff. Whether or not any of this was considered a legitimate concern, an offering to allow subscribers to jump into VIP seclusion seemed almost a necessity. Now, that may not be the real or the sole reason behind it... but if there weren't free transfers, I am quite sure there would have been people asking for them. And, as others have mentioned... giving free transfers does not equal giving 800 points for their value. |
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I knew this was the reason. For all the people who screamed "I have X characters and I don't want to play with noobs/kids/X I shouldn't have to pay more to get away from it because you changed the game".
I also realized another reason the devs want people on Exalted; Dropping Sub. If you move all your alts to exalted then decide you want to drop VIP you'd have to move your characters to a different server and lose your SG/Friends/etc all over again, "locking" you into staying VIP once you've labeled Exhaled home ebil Freedom Marketeers . |
Reactionary Players: "Oh Noes game is dying..." / "Nobody plays this game NEMore..."
Devs: "Ooh look new players..."
RP: "Quick give us VIP only server so we don't have to interact with new players..."
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Atlas Park last night was well filled, mostly by players who didn't have a clue that you don't need every pool power there is... but full. And way back in the beginning that was enjoyable, all these players who might be friends in the future. Personally I'd never have added a VIP server... or not until after i21 launch so I could have gauged how many f2p players there were and how much chaos they were causing.
Forget giving me 800 points instead of a server transfer. They should mail me a check for $10. I'd also like to redeem the 400 points they already get for cash. And $5 for the signature arcs. Plus the $2 for for invention and $2 for auction house access.
Basically, my monthly subscription should come with a check for $24.
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Nope. Character slots were never sold individually for $9.99.
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I think it went $5.99 for 1, $9.99 for 2, and $19.99 for 5. Obviously the $19.99 was the best deal.
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
$9.99 bought you two I believe.
I think it went $5.99 for 1, $9.99 for 2, and $19.99 for 5. Obviously the $19.99 was the best deal. |
Wait, they snuck in a 1 cent surcharge per transaction!
Sure the company could probably make a lot more money off of players if they sold them on an individual character basis. Most players wouldn't think twice about dropping 400 points on each tray per character. But that's only because people, in general, are stupid. One only has to work in customer service to learn that little fact of life.