Resistance in Maria Jenkins missions are Broken

All Resistance members, Minion and upwards, all have the Mind-washed Confusion effect from the BAF iTrial.

As if that wasn't bugged enough, where the hell do these guys get off having stealth that they can attack you from without revealing themselves? NO other mob in the game does that! That's not a challenge, that's 'have a power with +Perc or tons of yellows or get ready for an exercise in frustration'.

Just gives me another reason to hate iTrials; they break bloody normal content too!

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

They've been like this since day one of i18, well before the trials started showing up with them. And yes, it's damn annoying. But sadly, it seems they're meant to work this way; it has nothing to do with bleeding from the Incarnate raids.

Ok, so a character without any +Perception and any Confuse protection (which I was amazed to find an Invul Tanker DOESN'T have) is basically going to get taken to town by these guys, even on +0 x1 simply because they cannot see them long enough to do reliable damage!

Sure, I didn't because an Invul tank at level 47 is still redonkulously tough, but this is taking the cake! This is WORSE than KoA and Malta levels of annoying. I mean, really? EVERY minion having cloaking field and targetting drone? That's not even cloaking field, because I DAMN well know my Deviced Blaster can't get that level of stealth even with Smoke Grenade! These guys were shooting at me and not coming out of stealth. I could see the blasts, and the damage, but not them. Even the ever annoying Night Widows can't do that, even with smoke grenade; they hit you, and you can see them again.

I call serious shenanigans if this is, for some brain dead and derptarded reason, supposed to be working as intended.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

That missions always annoys me. They need to fix it.

Wow so YES it has been a while since I portal jockeyed a toon of mine but just last week i decided to take out my newly minted /time MM who by the way just snooze fests steamrolls at x8 diff without batting an eye.

Was I shocked by the constant defeats I got handed to me b/c of these stupid *** mobs. At first I thought ok I was being too cocky and if u just control pets and actually use powers the steamrolling will ensue. NOPE I cant even see the god damn mobs they just blink in and out and whittle me down.

I then took another character and the same thing happened. I thought I had a bugged game since I cleary(having gotten portal jockey on several characters already) remember these missions to be cake.

Again its this whole ignorance to back checking is what really infuriates me with this game. I love this game alot and I do like how inventive the devs are but MAN the levels of ADD they have when focusing on new content then completely ignoring old promises just plain SUCKS. Sorry I know I am ranting but it just boils my blood how they release such a WELL BALANCED fun and active set like time manipulation and DO NOTHING for the one dimensional OUTDATED might as well DELETE this damn powerset called FORCE FIELD!!! whats gonna happen in 1 or 2 years down the line when more powersets are created that will just hand pick the best of other powersets, tone them down a TAD and then release such a set out there to basically mock what the previous powersets cannot do b/c they are focused on one or two things only.

So many possible responses, but I think I'm just going to point out that inspirations continue to be cheap and plentiful.

And that difficulty at any setting other than +0/x1 is not a balance consideration.

And that Illusionists have been attacking from phased for their entire existence.

And that Tactics includes both perception bonuses and confuse protection.

And that the developers have never, ever indicated, in word or in deed, that there is any toy that they will not take back from you if they think it would make for an interesting challenge.

And that the intrinsically binary nature of such effects as mez, stealth, perception, and many others is indeed a design issue with City of Heroes, and this has also been true from the start.

But mostly, that inspirations are cheap and plentiful and, unlike IOs, they are considered fair game for balancing standard content.

(If I were to make a complaint about the Resistance pulsing stealth and confuse auras, it wouldn't be about how impossibly difficult they are, but how uninteresting a problem they present. When the problem is stealth, the solution is colored yellow, and when the problem is mez, the solution is colored pastel purple. Be surprised by it once, then purchase the right consumables for a trivial fee and return to play as normal. But that problem is at a deeper level, and is not a faction design issue.)

I always interpreted the high-level Resistance members to be the "Uh... We didn't actually plan for this level... Throw in all powers, we'll figure it out later!" approach to critter balancing. They only show up in, what? One mission? Two? I can clearly see someone contemplating designing brand new resistance members for just than and thinking "**** it, do whatever we have on hand." I don't know if they're borrowed from somewhere or they've just been given half of Devices, but these are cobbled together with no eye towards balance, just so long as there's something to fight.

Remember what the Praetorians were BEFORE the update? Night Star and Siege had minions that basically had 3/4 of Energy Blast and half of Energy Manipulation. Their actual minion-class enemies had Power Burst, for crap's sake. When the decision was made to create the Praetorians back in, what? I1? It seems like time crunch demanded that each of the Praetorian counterparts to the Surviving Eight get exactly ONE minion, ONE lieutenant and ONE boss because they had eight (well, seven, Tyrant used Marauder's goons) villain groups to design. So what you had is model-swapped enemies with powers drawn pretty much directly from existing powersets with very little regard to critter difficulty.

That's what I'm seeing here. At some point it was decided that we had to fight the Resistance in the 40-50 level range, it turned out that there were no resistance members prepared for this range so they either pulled some straight off a Trial or just pulled existing models and gave them ALL three extra powers. The 40-50 Resistance quite literally feel like an 11th hour addition to the game, and they play like one, too. They're just like the 10-20 Resistance if they had more powers from Devices.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

i think the resistance were designed this way and then they just copy/pasted them for use in the BA (since GR was released at least 6-8 months prior to i20)

they are quite challenging if you are not used to praetorian mobs (since from my experience ALL praetorian mobs are a bit overpowered compared to enemies of the same lvl)

Just a clarification...
I noticed the "Staying stelathed when attacking" back when they first came out (which was long before any trials were even hinted at) and what I found out was that they do come out of stealth when they attack, BUT they have a "Placate" ability they use as well (if you look up at the effects on you, you can find it and then right click and look at the info on it to see the exact nature of the ability).

I remember doing that mission and "Just use yellows" was not the answer. We did use yellows but kept dying, and then going to hospital and stocking back up on more yellows, then they'd run out and we'd die again... So I guess yellows were the answer... but really?

I honestly don't remember: is this mission a defeat-all?