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Why is the word Queer filtered on CoH?


 

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Originally Posted by Triomphe View Post
Why is the word Queer filtered on CoH?
Because of improper usage, as I'm sure you can imagine.


 

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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl View Post
Because of improper usage, as I'm sure you can imagine.
1. What if I want to make names with the word

2. Anyone who would be offended by the word should, by now, know that its meaning is rather different from what it was many years ago. Thus any attempted offense would just be foolish.


 

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Originally Posted by Triomphe View Post
1. What if I want to make names with the word

2. Anyone who would be offended by the word should, by now, know that its meaning is rather different from what it was many years ago. Thus any attempted offense would just be foolish.

Yes, but there will undoubtedly be a group of players who would use the word in a sense other than its original and intended definition That's when problems arise.


 

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Yeah, I'm lookin' forward to the day that these words are censored:

nuts (a delicious food)
bananas (a delicious fruit)
fruit (delicious food group)
***** (in the armor)
spade (as in hearts, clubs, diamonds)
retard (as in timing)
****** ("Throw another ****** on the fire, would you?") (which is, bluntly, some wood. Look it up.)
Belgium (If you don't know, you need to, it's one of the most vile, disgusting words in the Universe.)
Barbara Streisand. 'Nuff said (if you know of South Park, that is.)

and a few others, I'm sure.

/edit: Oh, look, there's two already.
//just saying... it could happen.


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Originally Posted by Triomphe View Post
1. What if I want to make names with the word
Too bad, it's banned because it's an offensive insult that is still used by obnoxious morons.

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2. Anyone who would be offended by the word should, by now, know that its meaning is rather different from what it was many years ago. Thus any attempted offense would just be foolish.
And that attitude is another reason why the word should remain banned. You have no right to dictate what people find offensive or act dismissively to how they feel.

Edit: Added a comma after bad. Didn't notice it was missing till Tenzhi quoted me. Thanks Tenzhi.


 

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Is "queen" still viable in-game? "Fairy"? "Nancy"? Seems a bit of a double standard if so.

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
Too bad it's banned because it's an offensive insult that is still used by obnoxious morons.
Why isn't "moron" banned, then? It's far less likely to have a usage that isn't as an intended insult.


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Is "queen" still viable in-game? "Fairy"? "Nancy"? Seems a bit of a double standard if so.
Not offensive

Queen Elizabeth - Royal Title
Fairy Queen - a mythological royal title
Nurse Nancy - A name with a job description

Offensive

Raging Queen
Flaming Fairy
Nancy Boy

So out of curiosity what unoffensive names can you come up with using queer? Cuz honestly I'm drawing a blank.

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Why isn't "moron" banned, then? It's far less likely to have a usage that isn't as an intended insult.
Try using moron as a name and see how long it takes to get genericed.


 

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I've never heard of the first two on the offensive list, Forbs Is that a difference across the pond?


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I CANNOT believe my testicle themed toon got the generics recently!

Mutated Testicles is now no more...wth? lol

And I agree with Forbin; I still hear idiots using that 'queer' deal in a bad way. Im sure you can get creative and come up with an alternate.


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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
I've never heard of the first two on the offensive list, Forbs Is that a difference across the pond?
Probably. Most countries have their own colourful array of offensive slurs available in racist, homophobic and generic flavours.


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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
So out of curiosity what unoffensive names can you come up with using queer? Cuz honestly I'm drawing a blank.
I could probably come up with something using the original definition of "something strange or unusual."

But it will probably still offend someone, because no one remembers what it used to mean.

By the way, the version of a word mentioned earlier that means "a piece of wood" only has one G in it. 1 G = A piece of wood, 2 Gs = an offensive slur. Spelling is important, and both of them are censored because a lot of people are poor spellers. (I can tell that 2 Gs were used because the censored word had 6 letters)


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Originally Posted by Tenzhi View Post
Is "queen" still viable in-game? "Fairy"? "Nancy"? Seems a bit of a double standard if so.
It's like with the old P2P argument; is the primary use infringing (offensive) or is it a minor secondary effect.


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Spelling is important, and both of them are censored because a lot of people are poor spellers.
There's nothing worse than an illiterate homophobe...


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Originally Posted by The_Spad_EU View Post
There's nothing worse than an illiterate homophobe...
Heh, I knew a guy who was going to insult someone by writing something in the snow covering their car.

Next morning: "What's a 'fage'?"

It was actually pretty funny.


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Hey look, a locked thread.

Word is banned because children abuse it. It's a shame but what are you gonna do.


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Not offensive

Queen Elizabeth - Royal Title
Fairy Queen - a mythological royal title
Nurse Nancy - A name with a job description

Offensive

Raging Queen
Flaming Fairy
Nancy Boy

So out of curiosity what unoffensive names can you come up with using queer? Cuz honestly I'm drawing a blank.
The Queer Questor - it's not inherently any more offensive than Fairy Queen (Faerie Queen would be a safer bet). One could use Strange Questor or Odd Questor but they lack the alliterative flair.

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Try using moron as a name and see how long it takes to get genericed.
I'm not sure it would get generic'd at all. I have a hunch that they'll let you get away with essentially labeling your character an idiot (as long as you stop shy of "retard" and the like I'd say), whereas they won't even let you attempt to label your character as "queer" (which, even in its slang use isn't universally considered negative).


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Originally Posted by Tenzhi View Post
Is "queen" still viable in-game? "Fairy"? "Nancy"? Seems a bit of a double standard if so.

Why isn't "moron" banned, then? It's far less likely to have a usage that isn't as an intended insult.
Various words being filtered like this will always suffer double standards. Things like context and political correctness are always going to factor into it. I'll bet you could review the "banned word list" and make a legitimate case for why 90% of them should NOT be on that list as standalone words. Most of the time the problem comes with how those individual innocent words can be combined to create offensive names.

In any event as long as this is a Teen rated game you can pretty much expect a relatively large amount of censorship to protect the "kiddies" from us foul-mouthed adults.


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Originally Posted by houtex View Post
Belgium (If you don't know, you need to, it's one of the most vile, disgusting words in the Universe.)
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So out of curiosity what unoffensive names can you come up with using queer? Cuz honestly I'm drawing a blank.
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Wait, what other meaning does the word "queer" have? Maybe it's my "English as a foreign language" speaking here, but I was unaware it ever meant anything other than a sexual slur.


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Wait, what other meaning does the word "queer" have? Maybe it's my "English as a foreign language" speaking here, but I was unaware it ever meant anything other than a sexual slur.
queer
   [kweer] Show IPA adjective, -er, -est, verb, noun
adjective
1.
strange or odd from a conventional viewpoint; unusually different; singular: a queer notion of justice.
2.
of a questionable nature or character; suspicious; shady: Something queer about the language of the prospectus kept investors away.
3.
not feeling physically right or well; giddy, faint, or qualmish: to feel queer.
4.
mentally unbalanced or deranged.
5.
Slang: Disparaging and Offensive .
a.
homosexual.
b.
effeminate; unmanly.


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"Queer is by definition whatever is at odds with the normal, the legitimate, the dominant. There is nothing in particular to which it necessarily refers. It is an identity without an essence. 'Queer' then, demarcates not a positivity but a positionality vis-à-vis the normative"


 

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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
Slang: Disparaging and Offensive
And in an act of reappropriation of a slur into a badge of pride, a growing number in the LGBT community are using it proudly as a replacement of all those letters in toto. "The Queer Community" is oft a self identified label used purposefully to hijack that label and make it lose it's bite.

It must be working if there are people who don't know it was, and sometimes still is, a slur.


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I've never heard of the first two on the offensive list, Forbs Is that a difference across the pond?
Probably. It is supposed to describe someone who is not hiding their sexual preference. In fact they are over the top about it.