Would you become a superhero?


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I think that gets most people into the realm of 200m standing long jumps and 100m standing high jumps. Impressive, but by no means supersonic.
While I was in the army, I was doing 6-1/2 minute miles (actually the first mile was faster than the second but averaged out) during my PT tests. This comes out to just over 9 miles an hour (9.2). Granted, with fatigue it'd probably drop to 8 or 7 over the course of an hour. And by NO means was I sprinting flat out (you REALLY don't wanna do that on a PT test).

So, if you figure 9.2 miles an hour. 100-fold increase. 920 miles an hour. Mach 1.21.

Now, as I've gotten tubby and old(er), my run times have probably at least doubled. But, still, that's 460 mph when amplified.

And in response to Lastjuice, the fastest helicopter flight times ever recorded weigh in around 250mph. So yeah, even for a tubby *censored* like me, that's still "out of line of sight". Granted, it's going to take a couple minutes to do so. A lot of it depends on how agile the suit is too. Taking advantage of ground cover would help lose the chopper faster than just trying to flat outrun it (which is a bad idea since it's REALLY hard to outrun a radio transmission).



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The suit amplifies muscle power, but not speed, so I don't think it would modify run speed by a factor of 100.

It would turn a 2m stride into a 200m stride, but you would effectively be doing low altitude leaps at that point; each stride would take longer than a normal stride, or else you'd probably end up digging a trench with that helmet

It would increase running speed by some amount due to the increased strength, but I have no idea how to calculate how much. Maybe double, triple with training and experience?

Your main point is spot on, though; if it came to being chased by the military, you'd have to use your brains to find cover moreso than the capabilities of the suit, although the suit would undoubtedly help.


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Without nigh-invulnerability, and/or invisibility/intangibility; much greater super strength, and/or more powerful offensive weaponry; and the ability to travel much faster (i.e. flight, or long distance teleportation), I think it would be too risky to fight crime in such a suit on any kind of macro scale. Particularly when you say that flame and bullets would cause no harm, but great discomfort.

If I could wear it comfortably, I might still use it in situations like stopping a mugging, or standing up to looters after a natural disaster - but going after drug lords/organized crime, and the like? No way. Mainly I'd probably use it to make my daily life easier/more fun.

Another real possibility would be if I could find a way to safely sell it to the government or local law enforcement for enough money to remain comfortable for the remainder of my life, I'd sell it for say $100-million tax free.


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Are we assuming that you activate the bracelet (and therefore the calibration command) before you know exactly what it does? If so, selling it would be useless, because no one else could use it but you. Then you're left with either using the suit to fight crime or not using it at all and putting it in a closet somewhere, hoping whoever developed it doesn't want it back.

I would fight crime with it, especially when it tells you everything it can do. I grew up with Greatest American Hero, a guy that had a super suit fall into his lap, only he didn't know all of it's capabilities (darn instruction book wasn't written in a known language), and I always wanted to put on a suit and fly because of it. You can't fly in this scenario, but being able to do everything else would be pretty cool. Hopefully you can take it off when not in action, or else you'll end up being like The Tick.
No, he lost the first one (fell out of the case the suit was in) in the desert, and when they gave him a replacement the first thing he did was test the shrinking abilities, but he got attacked by ants and panicked and turned the power off, but left the instructions super-tiny and lost them again.

Edit: Ah, scooped by Nericus. Teach me to answer before reading the rest of the thread


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You are ignoring drag in your run speed scaling.

I once took my first sporty car up to 100mph, getting close to redlining her. It only had a 112hp engine. If it had a 448hp engine, it doesn't mean it would get to 400mph. Drag increases with the square of the velocity so assuming the suit doesn't also reduced your coefficient of drag, with a 100x increase in power you would be topping out at 90-100mph. Still nothing to sneeze at.


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Taking advantage of ground cover would help lose the chopper faster than just trying to flat outrun it (which is a bad idea since it's REALLY hard to outrun a radio transmission).
Someone hasn't been paying attention to advances in police tech. Unless you can disrupt things like heat and motion detectors, ground cover won't save your hiney.


 

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Drag increases with the square of the velocity so assuming the suit doesn't also reduced your coefficient of drag, with a 100x increase in power you would be topping out at 90-100mph. Still nothing to sneeze at.
I was guessing around 100 mph myself, but I didn't want to post potentially bad math and have the boards beat me down for it heh. (What kind of nerd are you? Give us your geek card now LJ!) Which no that does not suck, but that has to account for you to reach said speed, if you're hving a bunch of crap put in your way via ambush/trap set by those wanting to get your suit or get you out of the way, then it's going be hard to achieve.

Say here in chicago(or some other big city.), with all really tall buildings , you can get trapped pretty easily. Even at 100 times strength, you probably can't jump over them. I suppose if you live somewhere flat, you might have an easier time escaping. Still you might be getting tired at some point as suit doesn't say you aren't doing any of the work. (granted with even the powered armor the armed forces are using they can easily lift over 200 lbs in reps and not get tired till the battery runs out.) At to fact you feel impact and discomfort when someone starts wailing on the suit, then this whole ordeal seems like massive pain in the butt.

I mean think to scene in Batman begins when he's trying get away from the police with Rachel. That could be basically your life on a daily basis , just on foot if you were operating without some sort of government oversight to call off the dogs.

For me the ultimate power is for people to never know you were there. A bank robber's car just mysteriously has a blow out because you ran by at super speed no one saw. A mugger in the park has a tree branch fall on him. Stuff that seems out of place, but no one can prove that something is causing it. They're probably not going look a gift house in the mouth.

The first step to destroying anything is to know it exists. Why you think deities work mysterious ways? Once we figure out how they are doing it they're toast heh. Once they know you're out there it forces the hand of those fighting you to up the ante. It could trigger more people actually get hurt because they bring more force to the table for even mundane crimes. If no one knows there's a costumed guy running around taking out thugs and putting out fires then no one is going be looking for me. No one is hunting down me and my family. (which I have too many siblings and their kids to use against me.) I like helping people, but there's just too many consequencse to crime fighting that cna follow you home without some surefire means of concealing and escaping unnoticed virtually everytime. (at worst you're an urban legend.) That's just me.



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Just playing devil's advocate here, but;

So your a muderer and a thief bribing the government in hopes of them allowing you to continue your lawless rampage without repercussion.

Not that I dont think there are times when killing is nessecary but this exoskeleton you are wearing pretty much renders you immune to anything any one of those criminals you listed could do to harm you. Where then is the justification in passing a death sentence when you could just as easily apprehend them and put a stop to thier activities?

All of the criminals you've listed might as well exist in infinite supply; drug lords, child pornographers, and slavers are a reaction to the need to fill those things.

What about the people who take the drugs watch the child porn and take slaves? Are you going to ruthlessly hunt them down and kill them as well?

And what about the pirates that were shanghaied? Being a pirate might not have a willful choice and could have been a do or die proposition.

And what about the terrorist? That seems especially nebulous since one government's terrorist, is another government's hero.
Yes, I will admit I might actually be a horrible person.
The only justification needed is the one I give myself. Truthfully if Batman has taught us anything it is that sending the really bad people to jail is a bad idea.

I have nothing against people using drugs. It is the murder and human misery caused by the drug lords and cartels that are the real problem that would deserve death.

The people that watch the child porn have mental health issues that can possibly be helped with medication. The ones that are actually making it need to be removed from the population. They have taken a step that can never be untaken, they have stolen the innocence of childeren.

The pirate situation would be an issue of safety for the general population. I would rather just sink their boat then attack them in port where civilians could get hurt. I doubt I would have the control for pin-point assassination.

To me a terrorist is anyone attacking civilians. So just because the government says someone is a terrorist doesnt mean that I will agree with them. Bomb a mosque or abortion clinic and you get a oneway ticket to death.


 

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You are ignoring drag in your run speed scaling.
What does a guy wearing a dress have anything to do with running faster unless you are in certain bars South of the Mason Dixon line?


 

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What does a guy wearing a dress have anything to do with running faster unless you are in certain bars South of the Mason Dixon line?
well see the dress actually increases your cross-sectional area thus increasiwhat the hell did I just start typing


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And the more public your persona the more likely your friends and family will become victims used against you.

And how are you going to defend yourself from the many lawsuits that will crop up over your supposed "negligence" that caused bystanders to be injured or suffer property damage? Cuz you aren't a cop and don't have the city, state, or feds protecting you from those things.
Well Electric-Knight would be pretty busy since his kill list would never end, he might slow things up about but greed has a way relentlessly breeding these guys like a bad FPS.

Anyways, I posed the question to a co-worker and he was somewhat similar to Knight, except my co-worker said he would do some real wrath of god stuff. He said he would pick a spot in the world and kill anybody who broke the law in that area in very public and gruesome ways. After he was mostly finished he would tell the rest of the world; "You had best fall in line because after I'm finished here I'm going to pick another spot in the world and if you want to break laws or not follow the rules you could be next".



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After he was mostly finished he would tell the rest of the world; "You had best fall in line because after I'm finished here I'm going to pick another spot in the world and if you want to break laws or not follow the rules you could be next".
As someone who got really really close to falling down, I wouldn't want to run around being all fire and brimstone on the world. It tears you apart after awhile, and just turns you into what you're fighting against at some point. You eventually turn on yourself. It's a slippery slope.

Coming right up to the edge of the abyss, and looking down was enough for me. I decided my humanity had a higher price tag than that. As they said in Overlord, Good is so close to evil. Would you want to live in a world where a merciless being judged all as it saw fit, and you were powerless to stop it? if the answers no, then why would you being willing to do it others? I see myself in others, and if they're not worth saving...then may be I'm not either. I prefer to see it the other way, and prove to myself they are worth saving, and so am I.

I'd rather live in a world where people do commit crimes than live in a world where people are afraid to do embrace life. Killing to make people tow the line will never make people better;only create a world where people can not ever change. While I'm sure there's a line in the sand where some people are beyond redemption or will cost far too many good people's lives to get them to learn the lesson(I think in case of the Joker or other simliar villains, most sane people would ended his life on principal, but few criminals are so obviously evil to make that call so easily.) There's a balance in there somewhere. I prefer not to think in absolutes because eventually in a world of black and white, you only see one color. That's just me, and my broken glasses I view the world through.



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Anyways, I posed the question to a co-worker and he was somewhat similar to Knight, except my co-worker said he would do some real wrath of god stuff. He said he would pick a spot in the world and kill anybody who broke the law in that area in very public and gruesome ways. After he was mostly finished he would tell the rest of the world; "You had best fall in line because after I'm finished here I'm going to pick another spot in the world and if you want to break laws or not follow the rules you could be next".
Why am I suddenly thinking of Judge Dredd?


 

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Why am I suddenly thinking of Judge Dredd?
Reminded me of Death Note.


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That computer is a fun bad guy.
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It contains a bright and colorful skintight suit made of a spandex-like material, along with a high tech bracelet/watch/smartphone kind of thing and a helmet. The suit is designed to cover every inch of the wearer's body.
Option 7: track down manufacturer using bracelet, phone up and asks if it comes in black. With matching heels. One, saving the world in style is important: two: "bright & colourful"="moving target". I'd rather not test its defensive capabilities if I can simply pass unnoticed.

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- Besides acting as a smartphone, the bracelet is a police/radar/military scanner and can easily spoof phone/internet accounts.
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So option 8: prankster vigilante. Think Edward Woodward's mores, Harley Quinn's methodology, Elvira's outfits.


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He said he would pick a spot in the world and kill anybody who broke the law in that area in very public and gruesome ways. After he was mostly finished he would tell the rest of the world; "You had best fall in line because after I'm finished here I'm going to pick another spot in the world and if you want to break laws or not follow the rules you could be next".
I'm sure the MPAA, RIAA and the like would sell their CEO's mothers to have someone like this.


 

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What does a guy wearing a dress have anything to do with running faster unless you are in certain bars South of the Mason Dixon line?
A dress never slowed down Maidman.


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Option 7: track down manufacturer using bracelet, phone up and asks if it comes in black. With matching heels. One, saving the world in style is important: two: "bright & colourful"="moving target". I'd rather not test its defensive capabilities if I can simply pass unnoticed.

So option 8: prankster vigilante. Think Edward Woodward's mores, Harley Quinn's methodology, Elvira's outfits.
The bracelet doesn't seem to have any info directly linking it to a manufacturer.

The outfit is definitely designed to make you stand out to the naked eye. Bright primary colors (probably neon red and blue with black highlights, and an attention-getting pattern of some sort. The heels, sadly, are sensible and designed so you can fight in them, but are not totally flat--rather like boot heels. Since they are boots.

Note that the internet capabilities let you spoof accounts so that things cannot be traced, back to you, but you are on your own skills as far as any actual hacking is concerned.

For those of you on the side of villainy:

1: Do you try to build up a power base of trusted individuals, or merely hang around after making a demand, relying upon your intimidating physical presence to get your demands met?

2: What is the 'go-to' crime for purposes of raising capital for your evil schemes, and how do you escape the scene with the cash (perhaps a large white bag with a dollar sign emblem)?

3: Where do you draw the line? Do you refuse to threaten bystanders, endanger hostages, harm cops and security guards, kick puppies?


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The outfit is definitely designed to make you stand out to the naked eye. Bright primary colors (probably neon red and blue with black highlights, and an attention-getting pattern of some sort. The heels, sadly, are sensible and designed so you can fight in them, but are not totally flat--rather like boot heels. Since they are boots.
The boots may be boringly flat and sensible but I've read nothing here that would prevent you from wearing this "colorful" suit underneath a black catsuit or the like.

That being said I'd probably give it a try. I think if I could do a few YouTube-able things with it I could generate some interest from the government and get a good deal to turn it over to them for reverse engineering. I'm quite sure they would set me up with a comfortable deal where I'd never have to pay taxes again and the like. Why steal a ton of cash when the government would be willing to simply give you a ton of cash?


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If it doesn't make me hack better, teleport, or cloak its useless to me.
Sell that crap to the highest government bidder.


 

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The boots may be boringly flat and sensible but I've read nothing here that would prevent you from wearing this "colorful" suit underneath a black catsuit or the like.
You most certainly can, cutie


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Option 7: track down manufacturer using bracelet, phone up and asks if it comes in black. With matching heels.
Heels?

You realize what an incredible hinderance heels are to doing anything that involves more than just basic walking on a flat surface?

Let me put it this way, suit or no suit, if you're in heels, any half-decent athlete will OWN you in most possible competitions, other than a bench press. They impede the human body that much. The only reason comic book heroines (or villainesses) survive past their first day is because comic books run on Rule of Cool. Try to apply the same approach to your own life and you WILL get yourself killed, if you don't cripple yourself before someone else gets to you.


 

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Heels?

You realize what an incredible hinderance heels are to doing anything that involves more than just basic walking on a flat surface?
I've brought this up in related threads but it was always funny to watch the old Lynda Carter Wonder Woman shows and see how from scene to scene she'd automatically switch from wearing her flat soled stunt boots to her heeled "fashion" boots. Ah, the magic of TV.

For what it's worth I actually give this issue a bit of thought for my characters here in CoH. I'll usually reserve the stiletto/high heels to characters who fly/hover most of the time. My "ground-pounders" or heavy melee types tend to get the flatter boots.


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I've brought this up in related threads but it was always funny to watch the old Lynda Carter Wonder Woman shows and see how from scene to scene she'd automatically switch from wearing her flat soled stunt boots to her heeled "fashion" boots. Ah, the magic of TV.

Call it a hunch but I suspect that the producers felt that many viewers wouldn't be looking at her boots.


 

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I've brought this up in related threads but it was always funny to watch the old Lynda Carter Wonder Woman shows and see how from scene to scene she'd automatically switch from wearing her flat soled stunt boots to her heeled "fashion" boots. Ah, the magic of TV. .
If you look closely, you see the same thing happening in Watchmen.

On the other hand, I get the feeling that DreamWeaver has a LOT of experience walking in heels. Or perhaps even performing acrobatics in heels. I could be wrong, though.

And in any case, there's always posing for publicity photos


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