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Theres a few things I swear are bugs, but maybe its just me. Has anyone noticed before:

Targetting: Im targeting the boss, pull off one of my super duper moves, and all of a sudden the target is on a minion or something (no the same boss isnt dead)

Inspiration lag: Seems like forever for a inspiration to be used, enough time to die

Power recharge: Sometimes with no rec debuffs (I monitor recharge) my powers are frozen, not recharging at all, with the exception of maybe one or two

Are there any others I might be missing? Is it just in my head? The last one I havent noticed in a few day it might have been fixed?


 

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I can't say I've ever noticed any of those issues.

Only thing that sounds remotely applicable to me would be the insp lag, but that only happens during intense raids for me.


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targeting never heard of, the inspirations i have noticed seems to have like a 1 sec delay on applying their effect as ive monitored my attributes and popped insp. the last thing is usually caused by server lag, if you are alone then idk


 

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With the targeting is it possible you accidentally hit whatever button you've bound to target_next (tab by default) or target_closest? I've done that myself a time or two; also I occasionally line up a cone, the target dies as I hit the attack and I lock onto a loner behind me and let fly with the cone.

Inspirations don't take effect instantly; greens heal you but you can take damage faster than the heal gives it back, purples boost your def but an enemy who's queued an attack as you pop it gets to make his attack roll before the insp takes effect and so forth.

Power recharge lag is usually caused by server side lag; Rikti Invasions, Mothership Raids and the third mission of the ITF are classic cases of this. Any time there's lots of players and/or enemies in a relatively close area with lots of power effects going off you're likely to get server lag.


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In reverse order (because that's how I thought of answers to them):

Re: your recharge problem - I think what you are saying is that you use a power, and the power shrinks to minimum size and just stays that size? Thus never recharging, and being unusable? I have encounted that one a couple times myself. Thankfully it was during a hospital run, and not in mid combat, and the issue resolved on zoning back into the mission. I would say it's a bug, but I don't know why it would be happening.

Re: inspiration lag - do you mean it takes a moment to 'eat' the inspiration after you click it, or that it takes a moment to apply the effect after it is eaten? If the first, Inspirations are basically one shot powers, and as such cannot take effect while another power is animating. They queue up the same way you can queue an attack power. If you select a second attack while it's queued, you'll cancel the queue on the Inspiration. If your problem is the second, then I don't know why that would happen either unless server lag is involved (and hope I wasn't too condescending sounding in the first case explanation - I have no idea how long you've been playing).

Re: targeting - .....I got nuttin.


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The recharge/inspiration issue, thats the server at the moment. Seems like this since the latests 'hotfix', today there will be another major upgrade, hopefully they fix this.


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Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome View Post
With the targeting is it possible you accidentally hit whatever button you've bound to target_next (tab by default) or target_closest? I've done that myself a time or two; also I occasionally line up a cone, the target dies as I hit the attack and I lock onto a loner behind me and let fly with the cone.
I do this often enough to annoy myself. It's mostly when i'm in the thick of it and switch to 'kill kill kill!' mode.


 

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Originally Posted by Dare-j78 View Post
Theres a few things I swear are bugs, but maybe its just me. Has anyone noticed before:

Targetting: Im targeting the boss, pull off one of my super duper moves, and all of a sudden the target is on a minion or something (no the same boss isnt dead)

Inspiration lag: Seems like forever for a inspiration to be used, enough time to die

Power recharge: Sometimes with no rec debuffs (I monitor recharge) my powers are frozen, not recharging at all, with the exception of maybe one or two

Are there any others I might be missing? Is it just in my head? The last one I havent noticed in a few day it might have been fixed?
On targets: There's at least one boss in a villain tip mission (I don't remember the name of the mission or the boss) that has a placate power making them impossible to target temporarily. There may be others.

Inspiration: Make sure you don't have powers queued up to fire off. Inspirations can not be used during a power's animation and a queued up power will take priority over inspiration use. (This one sometimes gets me killed.)

Power Recharge: I got nuthin' for ya on that one.


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On targets: There's at least one boss in a villain tip mission (I don't remember the name of the mission or the boss) that has a placate power making them impossible to target temporarily. There may be others.
Duh, I forgot about that possibility; there are a few mobs with a placate that would cause that effect. They're fairly rare but they exist. Some of the Arachnos mobs also have, but rarely use, that power.

If your target placated you then you'd instantly swap targets to the nearest enemy and be unable to go back to your original target for a few seconds... he'd show up as an invalid target.


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Inspiration lag: Seems like forever for a inspiration to be used, enough time to die
This happens to me all the time, to the point where I don't even bother using Insps during a fight. I believe the cause, for my own case, is due to me waiting until I'm down to 1/4th health before I decide that yeah, maybe I'm not going to be able to clear all these bad guys before I get defeated. So I'm running backwards and hopping (to get over obstacles) while desperately clicking away at a green Insp. The Insp typically never activates for me and I die. Thus I've come to the same conclusion as Mr_Morbid: Insp are on the same queue as other actions, but lower priority. Nowadays, when the going gets rough, I just focus on to getting my butt around a corner, before I use an Insp.


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I think those experiences could all be explained, here's my take on them:

Targetting: My experience has been that if you try to do something like place Rain of Fire, you might get "too excited" and target a location and click the left mouse button to place it. That can cause you to lose focus on your target and either result in no target or whatever is in front of your mouse cursor. This can happen with teleport as well, for example. Doesn't sound like what you describe, but I've had it happen. Other common things would be to press the Tab accidentally (if you have it set to target). Do you click powers with a mouse or activate them with the numpad or keyboard?

[Im targeting the boss, pull off one of my super duper moves, and all of a sudden the target is on a minion or something (no the same boss isnt dead)]

Inspiration lag: This is usually because you have something queued, if you're in heavy power spam mode, or trying to toggle on a couple leaderships right before dying, or just in a really long animation, you can click inspirations or press F keys til you're blue in the face and nothing happens. It can be a feedback cycle. You activate, immediately press F1 nothing happens so you hit another power, press F1, nothing happens, etc. The first time you were animating, the second time you queued. If you attack then F1, the inspiration will be queued. Be patient enough and it will trigger, then attack again.

[Seems like forever for a inspiration to be used, enough time to die]

Power recharge: This is a bug, but in my experience the power is really still recharging (check your Combat chat), just not animating like it does. Sometimes a zone load or recharge affecting power will make it appear normal again. I've had powers stuck in circling activation mode long after used as well as powers that are tiny and look like recharging but are actually ready for use and I can activate them. So, I think it's a bug, but not a game breaker. I recall seeing this particularly on old school Hami raids, mothership raids, etc. Not sure how common it still is.

[Sometimes with no rec debuffs (I monitor recharge) my powers are frozen, not recharging at all, with the exception of maybe one or two]


 

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Ive gotten the insp lag and the powers seemingly not recharging. I'd love the bosses-suddenly-turning-into-minions bug though.


 

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Targeting, are yo fighting Arachnos, some of their bosses have a Placate, which will force you off target.

Or some enemeis with a taunt?


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Neither bugs or myths imo, I think most of us has experience all three at one time or another, unless the lag is real bad, hopefully, not all three at the same time.

The targetting one is rarer than the other two though, in my experience the DE bosses (Spirits of Death, Pain etc.) are the worst for this, as Mega says it all depends on what you are fighting.


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I think Paragon Protectors can placate also.


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And another BUG I CANT STAND. Typed up a big reply hit submit and Im not logged in anymore. Yay!

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Re: your recharge problem - I think what you are saying is that you use a power, and the power shrinks to minimum size and just stays that size? Thus never recharging, and being unusable? I have encounted that one a couple times myself. Thankfully it was during a hospital run, and not in mid combat, and the issue resolved on zoning back into the mission. I would say it's a bug, but I don't know why it would be happening.
Exactly what Im talking about. I was inside a mission in the middle of a mob when it happened. Not sure how long it lasted but eventually they did recharge without zoning. I had like 1 power to use at the time.

As for targeting, I do use Tab or Alt and once I do have a target targetted, I use the number keys to spam my powers. I could chalk it up to me accidentally hitting tab and changing the target, but I dont know why all of a sudden I suffer from fat fingers. Happened on different toons too so its not a key setup problem.

Inspirations was most like a power queue problem, and not be able to eat 12 at once


 

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And another BUG I CANT STAND. Typed up a big reply hit submit and Im not logged in anymore. Yay!
Yeah, forum logout bug has been around for waaay too long . Tip; have notepad open in the background, and copy posts that are particularly long and/or annoying to type again before hitting 'submit'. (Granted, I never seem to learn from my own advice, and get burned by the bug with annoying frequency.)


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It's called lag (the targeting this is called accidentally changing your target )

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Yeah, forum logout bug has been around for waaay too long . Tip; have notepad open in the background, and copy posts that are particularly long and/or annoying to type again before hitting 'submit'. (Granted, I never seem to learn from my own advice, and get burned by the bug with annoying frequency.)
Extra tip: You don't need notepad open, just ctrl+a, ctrl+c (cmd+a, cmd+c on a mac, IIRC)... ctrl+a selects the full contents of the text edit, ctrl+c copies! You can pull off this super sekret ninja technique in a billionth of a second, due to the close proximity of the a and c keys!


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It's called lag (the targeting this is called accidentally changing your target )



Extra tip: You don't need notepad open, just ctrl+a, ctrl+c (cmd+a, cmd+c on a mac, IIRC)... ctrl+a selects the full contents of the text edit, ctrl+c copies! You can pull off this super sekret ninja technique in a billionth of a second, due to the close proximity of the a and c keys!
I just like pasting it somewhere in case I override it while logging back in (don't ask me how, but I'm sure I'd find a stupid way.)


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