Questions about PBs power changes with I21
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Angelxman81,
Posted on: 2011-08-30 17:33 in Player Questions
Light Form will only make you glow now (but no ball), and will let you shift to Dwarf/Nova. The rest I can't answer 
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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See kheld forum. Unfortunately it no longer turns you into a ball of light. It is, however, usable in forms. |
Originally Posted by Angelxman81
It is true that Light form can be perma now with new reduced recharge time, and has been changed so it does not turn the PB into a ball of light?
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What is the new animation for Solar flare? Im dissapointed to see this change, as I think the new animation is the handclap. I would like the SS ground punch animation better! |
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| Any word if devs finally will change knockback by knockdown for Solar flare and Incandescent strike? |
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| Any other cool update, aside the reduction in recharge on some powers and the fly afterburner PB version? |
Changing it to the ground punch would defeat the purpose of the change - namely making it work (and not look silly) while hovering. That's been my biggest annoyance since picking up White Dwarf form - Teleporting into a mob and not being able to AoE.
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My PB is at lvl 42 now and I want to push her to be 50...
I hope they get more tweaks to become more awesome, they already got lots of cool powers, but the mechanics are not giving me the best results.
I play human form, and I think PBs work better in melee range, but the knockback is annoying. Would love to see it fixed!
Im glad Light form got now a better recharge and doest turn the PB into a light ball anymore. Always found that weird, same for Electric armor.
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Knockback isn't broken, therefore it can never be "fixed".|
Originally Posted by Angelxman81
I play human form, and I think PBs work better in melee range, but the knockback is annoying. Would love to see it fixed!
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While you might prefer knockdown, that would not be a "fix" or an "improvement". That would be a "rebalancing" of the power. A nerf in some people's minds, a buff in others (you and me both).
just because some of us don't like an effect, doesn't mean it is broken. Or that we are right. Or that it needs to be, or should be, or would be better if, changed.
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With fixed I meant knockback gone and (personal) annoyance "fixed".
I get what you mean, but I think you got me too.
I love becoming a ball of light and will miss the animation. Looking forward to the other changes but a damage buff would have been nice. As far as KB goes, I love it and have used it to save my butt and my teammates as well.
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That is a real let down about Light Form. This totally spoils things for my PB. Long before there was a City of Heroes, I had always imagined this character having the ability to turn into a Will O'Wisp type creature. Now this ability is being pulled away for no good reason whatsoever. |
Originally Posted by FallenValkyrja
I love becoming a ball of light and will miss the animation. Looking forward to the other changes but a damage buff would have been nice. As far as KB goes, I love it and have used it to save my butt and my teammates as well.
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I just want power customization for HEATS. why limit PBs isn't Freedom about more choices.
There are those that asked for the Lightform change and have been for YEARS.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Your point? People have been asking for server mergers for years, too.
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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
There are those that asked for the Lightform change and have been for YEARS.
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Actually, do to how it works, and the forms work, removing the costume change (basically what it is) aspect of Lightform is needed to make it work properly in forms.
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As for the perma, it will change like the Tier9 from Shield and willpower, unaffected by recharge bonus/buffs so it will always hve a cooldown (well, unless you use afterburner once).
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
Your point? People have been asking for server mergers for years, too.
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Beyond that the point is, it did not come from nowhere is was one of the longtime requests of many Kheld players in the Kheld forum and was missed do to the nature of the costume change coding the last go around on Kheld changes made about two years ago.
Most people giving direct player feedback to the devs back then were not liking the bubble, not seeing their costume and most importantly not having the power for all forms like eclipse for Warshades.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Of course, the flip side of that is that the people who like it don't spontaneously post that they do. I mean, when's the last time you saw someone come on and say "Hey, I love using Dimension shift! Just wanted to say that!" to start a thread?
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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
Most people giving direct player feedback to the devs back then were not liking the bubble, not seeing their costume and most importantly not having the power for all forms like eclipse for Warshades.
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It's funny but I always had a character background twist with my human-form only Peacebringer that in effect rationalized why she would never use Dwarf or Nova form to alter her basic human body. Using the Light Form power and changing into a big wisp was therefore always something that was technically a "bad side effect" as far as my character concept goes. This I21 change that preserves the human form for Peacebringers using Light Form actually fits my particular character better than changing into a wisp. *shrugs*|
Originally Posted by Willowpaw
That is a real let down about Light Form. This totally spoils things for my PB. Long before there was a City of Heroes, I had always imagined this character having the ability to turn into a Will O'Wisp type creature. Now this ability is being pulled away for no good reason whatsoever.
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Now don't blame me for this change because I never once suggested to the Devs that the wisp form be removed from the game. All I'm saying is that the removal of the wisp form actually -helps- my character's concept.
Having said that I think as a compromise for having it removed from the Light Form power the Devs ought to take the "graphics" for the wisp form and turn it into a permanent "temp costume" power usable only by Peacebringers. This way you can choose to activate that "costume" the same way the Halloween temp costumes work.
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When and where did you hear this? Ustream chat perhaps?|
Originally Posted by SinergyX_EU
As for the perma, it will change like the Tier9 from Shield and willpower, unaffected by recharge bonus/buffs so it will always hve a cooldown (well, unless you use afterburner once).
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Right now on Beta Light Form accepts both buffs and enhancements to Recharge. If they're changing that then this round of PB buffs will fall far short of the mark.
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I suppose that could be said about anything Bill. However since you were in the Kheld forums a couple of years ago when the first changes were made, I am sure you remember that what I said was accurate. This obviously does not mean that there are not people that like/liked being turned into a bubble.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Of course, the flip side of that is that the people who like it don't spontaneously post that they do. I mean, when's the last time you saw someone come on and say "Hey, I love using Dimension shift! Just wanted to say that!" to start a thread?
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The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Say what? Currently in Beta lightform does accept recharge bonuses. etc. If they decide to make it's recharge time like WP where you can't boost it, then it is epic fail.
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Originally Posted by SinergyX_EU
As for the perma, it will change like the Tier9 from Shield and willpower, unaffected by recharge bonus/buffs so it will always hve a cooldown (well, unless you use afterburner once).
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Now if only Granite armor could be altered so that instead of a Dev Earth/Golem, our character's skin turns stone-grey in color, possibly their costume also, so that we basically look like the assorted statues we see in zones like Atlas. Thus we keep our cool costumes and auras in granite.....
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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
Server mergers is not a fair comparison.
Beyond that the point is, it did not come from nowhere is was one of the longtime requests of many Kheld players in the Kheld forum and was missed do to the nature of the costume change coding the last go around on Kheld changes made about two years ago. Most people giving direct player feedback to the devs back then were not liking the bubble, not seeing their costume and most importantly not having the power for all forms like eclipse for Warshades. |
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For what it's worth, I've always felt that light form should turn the character I had designed more or less transparent, with a glowing aura. This fits my concept better as well.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
It's funny but I always had a character background twist with my human-form only Peacebringer that in effect rationalized why she would never use Dwarf or Nova form to alter her basic human body. Using the Light Form power and changing into a big wisp was therefore always something that was technically a "bad side effect" as far as my character concept goes. This I21 change that preserves the human form for Peacebringers using Light Form actually fits my particular character better than changing into a wisp. *shrugs*
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I feel for those who are unhappy with the change, but I am happy with the new look.
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It is true that Light form can be perma now with new reduced recharge time, and has been changed so it does not turn the PB into a ball of light?
What is the new animation for Solar flare?
Im dissapointed to see this change, as I think the new animation is the handclap.
I would like the SS ground punch animation better!
Any word if devs finally will change knockback by knockdown for Solar flare and Incandescent strike?
Any other cool update, aside the reduction in recharge on some powers and the fly afterburner PB version?