I spend a lot of time in Pocket D and haven't seen too much of any of this. Last night in the Chalet, someone was saying how they were picking me up and throwing me so I said, "I don't think so. It looks like I'm still standing here and you haven't moved."
He said I am supposed to use my imagination. So I said, "I think it's broken." And I walked off.
This is like the ONLY time something like that happened. However, HOWEVER, I have been harassed by several players for cyber stuff and I did report them.
For me - Levels are very important. It just makes sense. Someone who is god-moding at Level 1 needs a slap. But arguments between sets at the same level? That's all pointless to me. I KNOW my blaster can't take as much damage as your tank. I get it. But my blaster CAN inflict more damage at range. So the f' what? Look at these awesome boots aren't they cute?!
Extra powers - as long as it is close to being part of the Lore it's okay. I'd love to be immune from psychic powers - but ya know - that's not the Lore but I suppose it COULD happen once and a while.
My favorite role play involves getting deep into the Lore and trying to live like I was really there. So, if I'm at the D enjoying a drink and mention how sore I am because I got a beat down on a BAF mission - that's how I'm going to act. I'm going to act sore. Being all stupid-invulnerable and all that is lame. It is the faults and weaknesses and whatever that make a character interesting - not their *** kicking.
A'KO SMASH!!!
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I spend a lot of time in Pocket D and haven't seen too much of any of this. Last night in the Chalet, someone was saying how they were picking me up and throwing me so I said, "I don't think so. It looks like I'm still standing here and you haven't moved."
He said I am supposed to use my imagination. So I said, "I think it's broken." And I walked off. This is like the ONLY time something like that happened. |
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| For me - Levels are very important. It just makes sense. Someone who is god-moding at Level 1 needs a slap. But arguments between sets at the same level? That's all pointless to me. I KNOW my blaster can't take as much damage as your tank. I get it. But my blaster CAN inflict more damage at range. So the f' what? Look at these awesome boots aren't they cute?! |
"Hey, that's not fair!"
"Sugar, I'm a walking, talking android who can command a small army of androids. What part of this was supposed to be fair?"
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| Extra powers - as long as it is close to being part of the Lore it's okay. I'd love to be immune from psychic powers - but ya know - that's not the Lore but I suppose it COULD happen once and a while. |
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| My favorite role play involves getting deep into the Lore and trying to live like I was really there. So, if I'm at the D enjoying a drink and mention how sore I am because I got a beat down on a BAF mission - that's how I'm going to act. I'm going to act sore. Being all stupid-invulnerable and all that is lame. It is the faults and weaknesses and whatever that make a character interesting - not their *** kicking. |
Also, as a bonus to Stealth Immunity: I roleplay that A.I. sees in multiple spectrums of light, which tends to negate any light-bending/altering based cloaking devices.
I know a few Dragon RPers who use 'Blind Sense', which can still be foiled. It really all depends on what's being thrown at me.
As a side note, I -really- don't enjoy the "NO U CANT SEE ME IN STEALTH GTFO" types. Stealth happens, and it can be detected. Otherwise Paragon Sutdios wouldn't have pissed off Stalkers with Rikti Drones.
I have stealth and I have definitely been detected and p'wnd. Stealth isn't like a deathly hallow - (infinite invisibility).
A'KO SMASH!!!
Hmm.... Well... The truth is that regardless of the server you are simply going to have people that are not roleplayers. The ones that do roleplay usually fit into three categories of 1. hard core roleplayer, 2.casuall roleplayer, and 3. I'm in my own little world or super group's world of roleplay.
1. Because not everyone is a roleplayer your gonna have the He-Man arguments with the I can take you out statements, god modding and all that. Then you have your outright goofs and those spamming powers and covering you in ice just for kicks. Not much you can do about it except ignore it although with new players you can remind them that DJ Zero controls the place and there is no fighting. I've roleplayed stepping between people before it got to fighting stage. They will either quit or ignore you and keep goofing off. If it makes you feel better you can throw out a pose of DJ Zero hypnotizing the two so they only think they are fighting. I suppose that is god modding too but it depends how much fighting in the D ticks you off.
2. I mostly go by level as I assume anyone of a higher level has been around and worked with effort to get that high. If his/her level is greater than mine then they exceed me in power regardless of their archetype. However, as annoying as Level 1 god modders can be. Level 50+ can equally be annoying with the I'm god now that I'm level 50 attitude. It makes me wish a Level 60 player NPC would just walk in and slap them up side the head. Realistically there is -always- someone out there more powerful than you. It is unlikely that you at your mega level can say "Oh, my powers of detection determine that you are level 48 and inferior to me." Uh.... There is no such thing as a -level- in roleplay much less detecting levels. I sometimes wish that you could hide your level from other players. That would make roleplaying more interesting as now you would have to challenge the player. Hmm.... Little bit more risky now isn't it. But since we can't hide our levels we should act responsibly regardless of level. Low levelers should play at low level unless they are playing as a NPC for a roleplay plot that everyone has agreed upon. So... the bad guy might be high level in mission architect but for simplicity someone plays him as a lev 1 NPC for roleplay in the D or elsewhere.
Being level 50 justifies some power but I also know players can team and power level to 50 in a short amount of time. Another person might solo and mission his way up to 50 through a lot of hard work and a heck of lotta missions. Likely, that person would have more contacts and be more powerful in the roleplay universe due to connections over a power leveler despite all the power leveler's enhancement goodies. Badges should count as much as your IO enhancements. Heck, if your both lev 50 roleplayers then do some ooc compromising in tels and be mature about it. If the person always wants to be a god or goddess then they probably are not worth roleplaying with. A good hero or villain gets their butt kicked now and then so they can learn from the experience.
3. If they claim to have minor powers I'm okay with it. Telekinetics roleplaying levitating drinks over to them selves. Plant people snaking out a vine to grasp something. Teleporting small objects if they are a master teleporter. As long as it isn't too far fetched or disruptive I'm good for it. Are they using these new powers to enhance roleplay or godmod?
4. Some of the powers give explanations for seeing stealth but then again I don't feel your gonna see that level 50 ninja all the time. Is he roleplaying coming up behind you or simply walking right in front of you? Bit of common sense in these situations. If your a master of stealth then roleplay it. If they do a good job roleplaying stealth then don't pull the I am all seeing crud.
Meh, my wall of text reply. Hope you at least agreed with some of it.
Ok...ive been gone for a minute..a couple months to be exact. But ive been lurking in the shadows the whole time, and i just gotta say...STOP WHINING. if you dont like how a person plays the game, ignore them. plain and simple. but for what i really wanna say,...
I have this character named Jim, and he bends light...LOL (oh am i going to get it for this one) Now i started this character in hopes of bringing something new to the coh table. this conversation im having with myself right now is about extra "powers" that arent physically in the game. So yea his names Jim and he Bends light. meaning time travel, the ability to summon spectras..u know the in game stuff. What im saying is just because someone says "they can bend light" dosent mean that they literally can. I like to take powers from powersets and change the thought behind them a little. i know people that do this too on virtue. Some people rp that using invisablity puts you in "the rift" or "the "abyss". I think that its okay to say your character can do such and such, so long as you can decently coordinate it with power at's or what ever. even emotes. But i think its silly to sit there and troll someone because he says he can manipulate light...(you know who you are). and i think its even goofier to sit there and complain about it. So he bends light or sits in a mud-tub with the trolls in the D...i dunno i say let everyone rp the way they want. Just DONT BE NEGATIVE! and bending light is not god-modding...at all...it really isnt. just wanted to defend Jim here. If you want to know what some fun rp is like check out Dr. Parnassess in the D from time to time this month. These are my charaters and they all have different persona's and stories. ill be the first to stand up and say i love roleplaying with powers that arent mechanically in the game. Because lets face it. Sitting there and spamming clearmind in the pocket and then roleplaying about it gets old after a while. Or spamming costume changes..Lets be creative and improvable..yea? anyone agree?
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How does bending light mean time travel? Do you bend the light through time and space? I mean, that would be kinda cool. Let's say you have to wake up early on Tuesday morning, so you send some light to show up at 7 AM and brighten your room. It's like an alarm clock for your eyes.|
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Ok...ive been gone for a minute..a couple months to be exact. But ive been lurking in the shadows the whole time, and i just gotta say...STOP WHINING. if you dont like how a person plays the game, ignore them. plain and simple. but for what i really wanna say,...
I have this character named Jim, and he bends light...LOL (oh am i going to get it for this one) Now i started this character in hopes of bringing something new to the coh table. this conversation im having with myself right now is about extra "powers" that arent physically in the game. So yea his names Jim and he Bends light. meaning time travel, the ability to summon spectras..u know the in game stuff. What im saying is just because someone says "they can bend light" dosent mean that they literally can. I like to take powers from powersets and change the thought behind them a little. i know people that do this too on virtue. Some people rp that using invisablity puts you in "the rift" or "the "abyss". I think that its okay to say your character can do such and such, so long as you can decently coordinate it with power at's or what ever. even emotes. But i think its silly to sit there and troll someone because he says he can manipulate light...(you know who you are). and i think its even goofier to sit there and complain about it. So he bends light or sits in a mud-tub with the trolls in the D...i dunno i say let everyone rp the way they want. Just DONT BE NEGATIVE! and bending light is not god-modding...at all...it really isnt. just wanted to defend Jim here. If you want to know what some fun rp is like check out Dr. Parnassess in the D from time to time this month. These are my charaters and they all have different persona's and stories. ill be the first to stand up and say i love roleplaying with powers that arent mechanically in the game. Because lets face it. Sitting there and spamming clearmind in the pocket and then roleplaying about it gets old after a while. Or spamming costume changes..Lets be creative and improvable..yea? anyone agree? |
Can you bend light into lasers and send them through time and space? "So I'm walking through downtown and BOOM lasers come out of nowhere!"
Time traveling light huh? Well, if punching reality is possible...
Issue 23: All your base are belong to us?
On the following subjects:
Fighting in the D - I operate on the idea that power suppression works just fine. Teleport doesn't work, powers sputter out at the first signs of animosity and even bullets fall dead to the floor...
However pure animosity directed at one's fellow man in the form you trying to drive your knuckles into their face is not a power, that's a movement in anger. Zero doesn't stop people from walking, running, jumping or dancing in the club.
Therefore, if two people want to beat the stuffing out of one-another, I'm more than happy to either fight back in kind or have my character watch with a relative amount of amusement. Anything BEYOND that however? Take it to the arena before you set the bar alight.
Still, it's a bar and in bars, people kick the stuffing out of one-another. Booze plus Aggression equals Fight.
Not taking level into account - This one is entirely subjective, and is based on my character, their character and whatever powersets might be involved.
Citing the above situation of a brawl: A lot of my characters are entirely human. If someone with super strength, even a humble level 3 or some-such fronts up to my character who is for all intents and purposes human, well, the fight's going to be rather one-sided, no matter HOW much skill said human character might have.
However, if someone who's fresh off the bus in Atlas Park, with no logical reason behind why they should be able to trump my level 50 incarnate character, shy of godmoding tries to pull the "iWin" trick? No dice, buddy. You're eating pavement.
Again, I take more than just this into account. Is your character sporting an injury that might hamper them? Well, that's a factor. Are they staggering-drunk? Also a factor. Did my character just unload the contents of an ashtray into your character's eyes as a low-blow to hamper your vision? Again, another factor.
Fights in general have a staggering amount of variables. I try to keep things fluid...and keep in mind that occasionly LOSING a fight is more compelling than winning all the time.
I have powers that don't exist in-game - Now again, this is entirely subjective. I've seen people take powersets like Energy/Energy and RP it out as water manipulation...and do so with an entirely believable amount of ability...and then again, AI's mention of the whole Peacebringer/Warshade 'Angel/Demon' thing reminds me that this notion can be executed with cringe-worthy levels of failure.
Immunity to Psionics/Stealth Detection -Characters who are blanket-immune to Psionic probing tend to annoy me somewhat. Generally it's a catch-card to stop people from Godmoding information about their characters, however it sorta bugs me. There are perfectly good reasons, like being entirely cybernetic, however all humanoid characters, UNLESS psionic themselves should be subject to some manner of influence or investigation. I have characters who have strong mental defences, but nothing remains unbreakable.
Again, the stealth detection thing stands to reason: Sure, you may have a cloaking device, but that doesn't hinder the stink of your aftershave wafting in the breeze, does it?
Basically, this subject is simply about common courtesy. If in doubt, ASK. Don't go forcing someone into a situation they don't like unless they're cool with it.
The Psychic defense thing is you know creepo defense and, like all these rules, applies to people you know. But let me tell you it only takes one (1) icky tell to a female toon about dominateing her mind to make Immune to psychic defense thing seem ok. Of course the best to deal with creepo psi is to ignore on both RP and game engine level.
You know if HH if an SS level three every really hassles you tell him he has to beat the old guy in the corner first.
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Issue 23: All your base are belong to us?
Well, it's quite easy to explain.
It's because Pocket D is terrible, you see.
I would like to issue a plea on behalf of Paragon's diminutive protectors, please watch where you step. We're four feet tall in a six foot tall world, we've been cast adrift in a sea of butts. -Pillbug
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As my first "rant" post elsewhere on this board put me in a rather bad light, I've decided that I actually want to sit down and ask the community proper for a discussion based on "Roleplay" mainly with some things that bother me on Virtue. Now this post is not a rant, and I will endevour to keep it this way, I'm going to ask some questions and respond with what I think and look to you guys for your input.
A little about me before I start, I do not consider myself a "Leet" player by any stretch of the imagination. I've been playing off and on since 2005 with one of two account. One of which is long gone and the current one only has one level 50. Along with a ton of 20 somethings, but hey that's what I get for playing to many games. This want for discussion started due to me being really active in roleplaying again on Virtue, thankfully I've made friends, joined groups and had the privilege of roleplaying with some fantastic people. People that have forced me to step up and practice and really work on creating lasting and memorable characters. So shall we on with the actual discussion then? First things First. Pocket D In the Lore for Pocket D, DJ Zero is a rather powerful mutant that can create tunnels and bends in space time. He uses his power to maintain pocket D and has gone to great lengths to keep it a neutral ground. Now here in lies the rub that irritates me so.. Fights in the D... My opinion on this, There is a power suppression field in affect here, and as this is DJ Zero's world/dimension/time-space it revolves around his rules, he is literally "God" here. You can do all the god modding you want, all the "I'm super powerful!" that you wish and it still falls flat on it's face. You are never going to out power the person who created the Dimension you are standing in, ever. "I'm an Incarante!" so what? DJ Zero is god here. My question to you, Is a rather simple one, what do you guys think? Do you think "So what, let them rp fighting, maybe Zero likes a laugh?" or "I agree with you on this one, this crap is annoying." Number two. The "I don't take level into account" Bio post..*grumbles* My first response to this is usually, "The I don't take your existence into account." Now I understand to most that this might seem a little harsh, but to me this paves the way to all manner of Power-posing and God-modding. When a lvl 1 brand new character can walk up to a fully IO'ed LvL 50 Incarnate and seriously say "I can kick your ***" it breaks things a bit for me. I feel there has to be a foundation to work off of, I do not play my lvl 50 fire blaster the same at 50 as I did at lvl 1. At lvl 1 she was unsure of herself, new to the world, learning. At lvl 50 her powers and experience have grown leaps and bounds. She's no longer unsure of herself and takes part in situations that affect all of Paragon City. Should you solely take level into account? No, but it needs to be a foundation of some small sort in my opinion. I know some people build the character before they place in the power sets, but I find it easier to relate to a character that has grown from the allowances of the game itself. A fire/fire blaster would grow differently for me at least, then a cold/cold one. So I'll leave this one here for more discussion as well. Number 3. The "I have powers that don't exist in the game" Bio quotes. Another source of frustration and grumbles for me, and yes I know by now you're probably saying "Stop being such a rules lawyering jackass and remove the stick from your rear." But seriously, does this bother no one? When someone you roleplay with says they have a power you can't visualize it breaks the immersion and understanding of the character, unless they are really really good at explaining it. This I pose an actual question for.. Do you, or do you not RP with people that have powers listed in their bio that do not exist in the game? Number 4. Last but not least in my wall-o-text post here is the one uppers. The "I'm immune to Psychics" types and the "I can see through your stealth" types. Those people that have to one up everything you can do and make you're character an ant in comparison to them.. This attitude annoys me to no end and I'd like to know how others deal with it. I've got more questions but I'll stop with this for now, and I hope we can actually have a conversation about these bullet points. I would honestly like to know others opinions and how they handle these situations. -DR |
Actually, yes, this has always kinda bothered me. Mostly because some of those same people who fight in the D go into one of two categories "screw the lore of CoH" or "It's all about the lore of CoH, oh except for this one bit where it says DJ Zero doesn't allow it"
I understand that fights happen in clubs. This is why DJ Zero teleports the fighters to the arena when it does happen.
Oh? But you don't PvP, you just RP text fight? That's fine! RP text fight int he arena!
Level into account...
I've let this slide a couple of times with players I know. However usually I try to make it a non issue even then. If I know they have multiple versions of a character this changes things a bit.
But generally, no, I won't accept lvl 1 characterjust shown up today is some powerful I win button, outside of an NPC for RP story and you're just making giving the NPC a face.
Powers that don't exist...
Goes right into my thoughts on "No. Elves don't exist in secret on Earth." "No. Dragons don't exist in secret on Earth." "No. You can't destroy the universe with the snap of your fingers."
Of course, I've let some of those slide, but by slide I mean, ignore the character.
Ignore Stealth/Psychics...
Well really, most of my characters have Psi Resist and/or Defense (Dark Armor, Dark Miasma, Electric Armor, Willpower). So you better be damn good, because those PSI AVs make me laugh. Basically with characters like that I think I could get away with saying they're protected from Psi (My Dark/Cold Defender had 75% Psi Resist and rather high if not softcapped Psi Defense...you be I'll say they make a Psi using character look rather weak).
Now, I have used a few exceptions with a couple of different secondaries. Regen damage was damage (though now they have PSI Resist in i21). Fire Armor, completely weak to it! But will they accept being burned by invading the mind?
As for Stealth, I have +Percetion! In fact I have multiple +Perception Powers! I had one character with Tactics, FA, +Perception in Defense Armor, and the +Perception Proc. Don't tell me they can't see a stealthed character
If they lack the +Perception then yeah, I say they don't see them.
So yeah, I mix in a bit of game mechanics with what my character can do, but then I build them to match what I want and don't say "Level 1 Uber Badass Just showed up into town"
I'm just not the type of player who wants to have a lvl 50 IOed out character someone took time and effort into creating to have to deal with a lvl 50, unslotted character someone just PLed the way to 50, as a threat. More so when you can RP mission and watch said character faceplant over and over and over again, then when not in a mission expect to believe "Oh yeah, I can take on anyone."
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I always get a kick out of completely ICly challenging people to arena fights, and watching them scramble for some reason why their supposedly all-powerful level 1 character couldn't possibly fight me in the arena. And I know that's metagaming to some extent and possibly makes me a troll, but screw it. It's funny.
On the topic of stealth, though.... I have no problem with you seeing through my stalker's stealth, just show me your +perception power(s) or give me a decent (read: not godmoding) explanation of how. Oh, you have neither? Then you can't see me, sorry.
And one other little thing that always bugs me. It's 'godmoding', not 'godmodding'. There is only one d in it.
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"RP to find out more" always makes me laugh. Without at least SOME background, I have no reason to initiate conversation in the first place, and therefore have nothing to talk about.
OP, your character reveals quite a bit about what stories you like. In this case "Rightful Kingdom" stories i.e. stories that take an unsure youth and follow them throughout their career, each conflict bringing them towards the person they are destined to become. This is a very popular archetype for stories, and I understand your preference for them. It is not the only type of story however. Some notable examples are; Fall and Redemption, Romantic and Non-romantic Tragedy, Comedy (albeit less popular when following a comic book hero or villain), Tales of Revenge, and Tales of Discovery.
Any of these story archetypes can set the stage for truly interesting characters. I also agree that all powerful characters simply aren't interesting, and there is a reason that these characters are often side-characters, if included at all.
So kudos on your cool character! But remember, even though the Alien-Cat-Girl-God can beat you to death, resurrect you, then beat you to death again. They will at most only ever be a side character in your tale. 
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My opinion:
Fighting in the D: Fights happen in bars, so if some folks get into a drunken fist fight it wouldn't be abnormal. However, there are clearly things in place to prevent powers so that's an entirely different scenario. I simply don't get myself into such a situation.
RP by Level: Case by case. Even though I have a 50, whom I don't RP on, I don't consider that to be godly. If a level 25 was well trained with a sniper rifle for example, I'd be concerned regardless of my level. I'm fine with somebody saying they're more difficult to deal with because of having a great deal of experience, but if somebody is extremely arrogant with the "I'm 50 +1 thus you can't touch me" I ignore them. You're not that special.
Powers not in game: Case by case. If it's RPed well, isn't OP and it makes sense, why not? If it's absurd then politely inform them of such. Sometimes adding those things in can enhance RP, again, if done correctly.
Psi/Stealth: Probably should have mutual consent when it comes to this. Personally my main doesn't have superior vision or anything protecting his mind. Though, if you start doing things to my character without permission then I'll simply ignore you. I think it's poor taste to say you're completely immune to it or can see anything regardless of external factors.
One last note: I tend to ignore those that RP son/daughter of famous Gods or other figures; in the RP world that's typically a big no-no. Saying you're the grandson of Zeus is no different than claiming to be Statesman's son... you just don't do it. There's an awful lot of those in the D, one in particular apparently has the power of many Gods, is immune to Earth powers and can resist physical damage... at least something along those lines, I can't read the profile for reference. There's no way I can take that player seriously.
At any rate, I was a bit rushed so I don't expect that all to make sense. Happy RPing!
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One last note: I tend to ignore those that RP son/daughter of famous Gods or other figures; in the RP world that's typically a big no-no. Saying you're the grandson of Zeus is no different than claiming to be Statesman's son... you just don't do it.
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In general, my answers:
I'm a bit wary of the "powers don't work in the D" reasoning simply because some do, mechanically at least. I can fly in the D, summon zombies and throw fire shields on people. To me its a mix of Zero putting the boot down on people who get too rowdy and plain common sense that people don't engage in violence there. If I do run into it, I generally find a way out if I'm peripherally involved, or offer to take it to the arena. I don't really care for text fighting in any case, so I rarely engage in it unless its someone I know and trust.
RP by level: Works as a guideline for sure. I'm more then willing to bend that rationale depending on circumstance but as a rule of thumb I'm happy to assume a level 50 will be able to take out a level 10 in fairly short order. Certainly something I'd judge case by case, but honestly not something that comes up that often for me.
Powers not in the game, see above. Depends what it is. I have no problem with interesting "colour" powers. "You can talk to inanimate objects? Neat!". If someone goes a bit crazy with them I'll generally make my excuses and get out of there.
Stealth/psi immunity. I once had a telepathic character I tried to RP with who'd try to read random peoples minds when he was bored. Nothing more then that, he just wanted to see what they were thinking. A lot of the time he'd get the "impenetrable mind" reply for one reason or another, and it did kind of put me off the whole idea. All the same I can certainly see why some people do it... theres some creepy folks out there. Personally I'd only go with something like that if I had the powers to back it up, stacked + perception or high psi resists/defences or whatever, but I'd be more then willing to make a case for a particular character concept.
As a side note, in regards to the people who have been dismissive of the "Rp to find out more" lines... I don't really take much interest in that kind of bio myself, but I don't find it a reason to avoid playing with someone. If someone has a great bio thats awesome and I'd take pleasure in reading it, but I'd evaluate my RPz on a case by case basis. Some people just aren't good at writing that sort of thing, I know the vast majority of my characters tend to have a brief, fairly non descriptive saying or two in their bio space.
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i always get a kick out of completely icly challenging people to arena fights, and watching them scramble for some reason why their supposedly all-powerful level 1 character couldn't possibly fight me in the arena. And i know that's metagaming to some extent and possibly makes me a troll, but screw it. It's funny.
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[QUOTE=Fixer;3824953]Very minor quibble... by all accounts Zeus slept with anything willing or unwilling, so its not hard to picture any number of demigod by blows floating around. I'm not saying its the greatest character concept ever, but it doesn't automatically equal Statesmans love child either.[QUOTE]
This is true. However, Zeus has been long gone for over 2000 years. As well as all those other mythological gods.
And looking at all those children born of Zeus, they'd be Incarnate level at most, and with CoH lore, not even likely that now, as powers through out the universe are derived from the Well.
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Huh. So people still do that?
I guess this is my two cents. I love to walk up to others and RP. I'm such a social person in that way. I love to see other people's styles, their stories, etc and gives me a lot of diversity when playing my characters. Why go for a fruit basket of only bananas? I love apples, pears, and even strawberries. So instead of all bananas, I put in different kinds of fruit in there.
People who do it just to cause fights is, well... its dumb. Those I tend to just pull away from very slowly. But I'm not against walk ups or and I'd NEVER blow anyone off because their style is different from mine. It just doesn't seem right. Why stick with a certain crowd when you can meet the whole crowd, y'know?
I guess that's me in a nutshell. I'm just... friendly and bubbly... or something. Just figure I'd put something up there. I'd put something up about PVP and RP but, well. I hadn't really PVPed yet since I came back so making a comment on it now wouldn't be fair.
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This sort of player is the number one reason so many people have mental immunity shtick in place. I'd almost bet real money the guy doing the random mind ****** was a hero. |
Originally Posted by Fixer
I once had a telepathic character I tried to RP with who'd try to read random peoples minds when he was bored. Nothing more then that, he just wanted to see what they were thinking.
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I could play along with someone who sent me a tell saying "My psychic senses picked up a warning of danger and so I'm scanning the room for people in trouble. Are your character's thoughts troubled? Would you like to respond as my character quickly scans your mind for the danger he sensed?" That's a good way to try and drum up from quick RP from a stranger.
On the gripping hand, if someone sent me a tell saying "My character is bored so he's reading your mind. What are you thinking?" My reply would be "My character is bored and so he walks over and strips you naked and dumps you head first into the toilet. Then he pees on you."
Of the two actions, invading people's minds just because you're bored is far more vile and offensive.
"SARS, Bird Flue, 9/11, Anthrax in the Mail, Mad Cow Disease. Pope John Paul didn't die, he preboarded." - Christopher Titus "5th Annual End of the World Tour"
If casually reading the surface thoughts of other people is that offensive to you, then you need to spend more tie in the D.
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I would like to issue a plea on behalf of Paragon's diminutive protectors, please watch where you step. We're four feet tall in a six foot tall world, we've been cast adrift in a sea of butts. -Pillbug
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RANDOM GIF TO EXPRESS MY FEELINGS.|
Originally Posted by Magpie_Mouse
If casually reading the surface thoughts of other people is that offensive to you, then you need to spend more tie in the D.
Mistress Demonica, wru? |
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Nah, he was a villain. A half ***** one, but none the less.|
Originally Posted by Roughtrade
This sort of player is the number one reason so many people have mental immunity shtick in place. I'd almost bet real money the guy doing the random mind ****** was a hero.
I could play along with someone who sent me a tell saying "My psychic senses picked up a warning of danger and so I'm scanning the room for people in trouble. Are your character's thoughts troubled? Would you like to respond as my character quickly scans your mind for the danger he sensed?" That's a good way to try and drum up from quick RP from a stranger. On the gripping hand, if someone sent me a tell saying "My character is bored so he's reading your mind. What are you thinking?" My reply would be "My character is bored and so he walks over and strips you naked and dumps you head first into the toilet. Then he pees on you." Of the two actions, invading people's minds just because you're bored is far more vile and offensive. |
But yeah, idle use of telepathy due to boredom is the most diabolical of sins. You got me.
Here you come with a stupid name like Fixer - brutalkillz_
I'm mixed on a few of these issues. For instance, I usually don't take level into account(to a point). If you're someone I know, or know of, and I know you have an alt of that character that's higher level, a temporary character made to drive a story, and so on, I don't bother looking at the character level. Beyond that, I usually look to see if the toon is at least level 14-20ish. Granted, this isn't hard to obtain, but it shows that they didn't just make the character.
That being said, I have a few characters who I've had up to level 35-40 and deleted, to reroll them as different powersets, because I hated the powers they had. I don't suddenly start playing them as weaker than they were before, because of an out of character decision. But, then again, I don't go around picking fights with people.
As for characters having powers that aren't represented in game, I don't mind, really. I mean, I've seen a couple that bothered me, but that was because they didn't make any sense for the characters in question to have. It's no different than having one character with 8 different archetypes which don't fit them, really. It's when it doesn't fit that it bothers me, but otherwise, have at it. Just don't tack random powers on for the sake of having them, or roll alts of a character with power selections that make no sense for them to have, and I'm cool with it.
Of course, I'm not going to go on a tirade about it, or harass someone about it, I just tend to grumble to myself and facepalm, while I slowly die inside.
As for psychics, again, mixed. If you randomly pm me and try to start controlling my character, I'm not going to play along. I've had this happen to me before. My character was hanging out with his sister when lo and behold, a psychic starts pming me telling me that my character suddenly feels like attacking and killing his sister. He did not. And, so, I played it off as my character knowing that someone was implanting thoughts in his head, because, well. It's the D. It's common knowledge that psychics hang out there, why wouldn't he be able to recognize that?
So, he shook it off. But, like I said, I'm mixed about it. If it's someone I know, or involving a storyline I'm taking part in, then I'll most likely play along with it. If it's some random person in the D telling me my character suddenly wants to attack his loved ones, he's going to know what's going on. He wont know who did it, no, but he's damn sure going to shake it off and recognize the symptoms for what they are. I'm not okay with someone controlling my characters for me.
But, in regards to things like mind reading, most of my characters are pretty much open books, save for a few. One of them thinks in binary, which doesn't stop psychics from reading his mind, it's just usually indecipherable to them, and an annoyance. The characters who can seal their minds off usually have something I find funny as a mental block. Like, the word 'Derp' coming at the intruder as psychic feedback, or something.
Shameless self promotion : Second half of a story I got published in the back up features is in this issue.
Anyways; On page 11 some of the CoH big names get in a confrontation with some of the CoV big names. On page 16 one of them has to go to DJ Zero to get him to set them up with a fight zone. References along the way mention the Power Nullifiers that make all powers useless. Suppose ***** slapping is still possible, but no powers.
Still looking for the back alley reference.
As for the talking points.
I don't fight in the D but I'm not gonna take the anti-D-fight crusade to those who do. If two guys want to fight and can't take it to the arena, whatever. Just don't try to involve me, and I'll ignore it just fine.
I take level into account, even for alternate versions of the same toon. Conceivably my 50 blaster could duplicate his power armor at the same strength but with different powers, except I don't see it as that easy. Level is half security/threat level - a wholly in-character mechanic for reputation/notoriety, by the way - and half gradually tuning the armor, upgrading its systems, and learning how to use it. So when he's in his controller suit he's far less raw-powerful than in his blaster suit until catching up in levels. Such a concept can apply to all origins just as easily. Learning new spells, exploring a new use of your mutation, training in a different fighting style or with new weapons, or insert equivalent for science here.
Extra powers, I treat as ridiculous as they're described. You can summon minor objects? Great, that's not abusive. So can one of my toons. You have irresistible pheromones? Not if I choose to resist them, but thanks anyway. You can grow to ludicrous size? Snork you. Take it elsewhere. And I agree about the not-a-Khelds. Most can DIAF, with very few exceptions in my experience.
I pretty much ignore psi/stealth-immunity god-moders. It's not that I go crazy with my psionic toon and try to mind-snork everyone I see, but that sort of pre-emptive, defensive comment tends to turn me off to the player right off the bat and I'd rather not invest in RPing with them only to find they've got a whole mine-field of god-mode rules, immunities, and powers.
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