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Originally Posted by Purge View Post
Sorry not 1000, I meant 180 dollars!
Doesn't matter . Still expect timely service. I am not saying that paragon is guilty of bad service I am saying paying customers have the right to complain.


 

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Originally Posted by Thany144 View Post
Doesn't matter . Still expect timely service. I am not saying that paragon is guilty of bad service I am saying paying customers have the right to complain.
Complain when there's something that's actually worth complaining about.


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Originally Posted by Matt_King View Post
Complain when there's something that's actually worth complaining about.
Seeing as they are not being able for a long amount of time to give the service we are paying for isn't worth complaining about? This wasnt just a couple hours. This was a very long time and it is happening far more fequently. We pay to play a game and when we cant cant for these extended periods it starts to weare thin. Now you dont have to get annoyed by it but I will.


 

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Doesn't matter . Still expect timely service. I am not saying that paragon is guilty of bad service I am saying paying customers have the right to complain.
Actually no. You don't have the "right" to complain. You're ALLOWED to complain, but it's not a right. You have the ABILITY to complain, but not a right.

Addditionally, other paying customers have the ability to oppose your POV and call you on your complaint.



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Actually no. You don't have the "right" to complain. You're ALLOWED to complain, but it's not a right.
Honestly curious here - are you saying this because our ability to complain without the threat of punishment is not guaranteed by law?


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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
Actually no. You don't have the "right" to complain. You're ALLOWED to complain, but it's not a right. You have the ABILITY to complain, but not a right.

Addditionally, other paying customers have the ability to oppose your POV and call you on your complaint.
Customers have the right to voice their opinion. Any business who either doesn't believe that or ignores this simple fact, will not stay in business very long. So called corporate giants have been sent packing many a times over based on their ignorance.
From my outlook, the CoH staff do a very good job of listening to the customers. I don't envy the task of trying to please everyone all the time though. Impossible as it may seem, keep up the great work. A little maintenance or down time (no matter how timely) if it improves my game experience....I'm for it.


 

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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
Actually no. You don't have the "right" to complain. You're ALLOWED to complain, but it's not a right. You have the ABILITY to complain, but not a right.

Addditionally, other paying customers have the ability to oppose your POV and call you on your complaint.

I live in the US, so actually, yeah, we do have the right to complain. Sorry adolph.


 

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Its amazing to me how g****** entitled some of you people think you are, simply because you pay 15 bucks to play a videogame. ..Someone made the comment about "what if your electricity goes out for a day..".. Um..personally..I go the hell outside if that happens..but maybe thats just me.

My point is simply this..yes we all pay a monthly subscription fee to play CoH, but NOT, NEVER, ONCE have we been promised, or guaranteed that the services we pay for, (the game) would be up and available at all times, whenever we wanted. Things happen people and getting on here while your in the middle of a little nerd rage just so you can sound like a whiny 2 yr old who missed out on a lolly, doesn't solve anything at all. Though it does give those of us with higher functioning brains, something to laugh at on occasion.

Instead of complaining on the forums during server downtime, why not think up a forum game, or ...DUN DUN DUN, actually come up with something valid to discuss instead of getting in a cluster**** and crying like kids at a daycare. ...Just saying...


 

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Originally Posted by OmniSurge View Post
Its amazing to me how g****** entitled some of you people think you are, simply because you pay 15 bucks to play a videogame. ..Someone made the comment about "what if your electricity goes out for a day..".. Um..personally..I go the hell outside if that happens..but maybe thats just me.

My point is simply this..yes we all pay a monthly subscription fee to play CoH, but NOT, NEVER, ONCE have we been promised, or guaranteed that the services we pay for, (the game) would be up and available at all times, whenever we wanted. Things happen people and getting on here while your in the middle of a little nerd rage just so you can sound like a whiny 2 yr old who missed out on a lolly, doesn't solve anything at all. Though it does give those of us with higher functioning brains, something to laugh at on occasion.

Instead of complaining on the forums during server downtime, why not think up a forum game, or ...DUN DUN DUN, actually come up with something valid to discuss instead of getting in a cluster**** and crying like kids at a daycare. ...Just saying...
I'd like to say it's the new generation, but it's most generations. We've been raised to be petty and divisive and expect all sorts of things except for the things that really matter.

Understanding, flexibility, logic. These things are not taught, that's counterproductive to capitalism . So instead of worrying about important things that actually seriously impact our lives people are too busy worrying about whether or not they got shortchanged a couple bucks (at most) on some video game that's still hands down a better value than any other entertainment out there.

People really need to read Brave New World or if your the "conspiracy" type watch some Zeitgeist movies lol. Or better yet just go look up the musings or George Carlin. His death was a serious loss.

Last thing you should really be spending your energy on is worrying about some stupid video game and whether or not you lost less than 5 bucks from something they didn't plan on happening.


 

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Originally Posted by OmniSurge View Post
Things happen people and getting on here while your in the middle of a little nerd rage just so you can sound like a whiny 2 yr old who missed out on a lolly, doesn't solve anything at all. Though it does give those of us with higher functioning brains, something to laugh at on occasion
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Last thing you should really be spending your energy on is worrying about some stupid video game and whether or not you lost less than 5 bucks from something they didn't plan on happening.
And these kinds of posts come from people who are spending just as much energy worrying about people worrying about a video game, as the people worrying about the video game.

Yeah... That is classic.


 

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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
Actually no. You don't have the "right" to complain. You're ALLOWED to complain, but it's not a right. You have the ABILITY to complain, but not a right.

Addditionally, other paying customers have the ability to oppose your POV and call you on your complaint.
Consumer rights brah.

As for those nerd raging against the nerd ragers lol.


 

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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
Actually no. You don't have the "right" to complain. You're ALLOWED to complain, but it's not a right. You have the ABILITY to complain, but not a right.

Addditionally, other paying customers have the ability to oppose your POV and call you on your complaint.
Yeah you HAVE the right, it's called freedom of speech and as of very soon...this games going Freedom! So, yeah....it is a right, unless your in some other country other then the United States, maybe like.....North Korea, Cuba, Iran, ect. And since I am a paying customer, I have more right to complain even more then a person thats going to play for free! "I'm just saying!"


 

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Originally Posted by Morgan Reed View Post
And these kinds of posts come from people who are spending just as much energy worrying about people worrying about a video game, as the people worrying about the video game.

Yeah... That is classic.
I highlighted the bolded the important part for me . You can call me out on that all you want. I'll gladly worry about people more than I'll worry about a video game.

While it sounds like it works and it's the same thing, the object your comment focused on radically changed. For example saying someone is worried about money, and saying that someone is worried about people who are worried about money are two radically different statements as well.


 

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Originally Posted by Purge View Post
Yeah you HAVE the right, it's called freedom of speech..."
Just to point out - you do not have "freedom of speech" on these boards. The first amendment does not give you the right to say whatever you want, wherever you want, anywhere you want.

The boards are essentially private property. You have only as much freedom as NCSoft/Paragon Studios and the mods allow you. They can remove your post for overuse (or underuse) of the word "pink" if they so choose, and you have no recourse. They can mod or remove your posts for no reason whatsoever, if they want.

NC *lets* you vent/complain here. If they said "That's no longer allowed," then it's no longer allowed.

There is no "freedom of speech" here.


 

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It's I21!




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For a bit of further clarification, since many people seem misinformed, the freedom of speech those in the US like to comment on isn't, by any means, a universal guarantee of the right to speak out on any topic, at any time. It's only a guarantee that Congress (and later, through judicial action, that other US lawmaking bodies, ie states) wouldn't make laws restricting free speech.

Court orders, business arrangements, employers, employees, social groups, contracts of all sorts, religious obligations, and professional organizations all have legal rights under some circumstances that limit speech. And the US 1st Constitutional Amendment doesn't alter these at all.

Whether or not that is a good thing may very well be open to debate, but the US 1st Constitutional Amendment isn't near as far reaching as many people seem to think. It is a very powerful piece of legislation, but not boundless.


 

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
Just to point out - you do not have "freedom of speech" on these boards. The first amendment does not give you the right to say whatever you want, wherever you want, anywhere you want.

The boards are essentially private property. You have only as much freedom as NCSoft/Paragon Studios and the mods allow you. They can remove your post for overuse (or underuse) of the word "pink" if they so choose, and you have no recourse. They can mod or remove your posts for no reason whatsoever, if they want.

NC *lets* you vent/complain here. If they said "That's no longer allowed," then it's no longer allowed.

There is no "freedom of speech" here.
maybe but I guess it is better someone complain here than call them and complain. Why does people expressing their frustration at a situation offend anyone?


 

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Originally Posted by Madadh View Post
For a bit of further clarification, since many people seem misinformed, the freedom of speech those in the US like to comment on isn't, by any means, a universal guarantee of the right to speak out on any topic, at any time. It's only a guarantee that Congress (and later, through judicial action, that other US lawmaking bodies, ie states) wouldn't make laws restricting free speech.

Court orders, business arrangements, employers, employees, social groups, contracts of all sorts, religious obligations, and professional organizations all have legal rights under some circumstances that limit speech. And the US 1st Constitutional Amendment doesn't alter these at all.

Whether or not that is a good thing may very well be open to debate, but the US 1st Constitutional Amendment isn't near as far reaching as many people seem to think. It is a very powerful piece of legislation, but not boundless.
We still have the freedom to say as we like. Just as Paragon has the freedom to remove said post. Its agreed upon when you sign up for the board. Yet it isn't Paragon or NCsoft telling people they cant complain.


 

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
Just to point out - you do not have "freedom of speech" on these boards. The first amendment does not give you the right to say whatever you want, wherever you want, anywhere you want.

The boards are essentially private property. You have only as much freedom as NCSoft/Paragon Studios and the mods allow you. They can remove your post for overuse (or underuse) of the word "pink" if they so choose, and you have no recourse. They can mod or remove your posts for no reason whatsoever, if they want.

NC *lets* you vent/complain here. If they said "That's no longer allowed," then it's no longer allowed.

There is no "freedom of speech" here.
Hey Cartel boy, I'm doing it and not kicked or arrested...so yeah, it's FREEDOM!


 

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Originally Posted by Thany144 View Post
We still have the freedom to say as we like. Just as Paragon has the freedom to remove said post. Its agreed upon when you sign up for the board. Yet it isn't Paragon or NCsoft telling people they cant complain.
True, people that are called "Cartel" are the know it all's that think they know it all and DON"T!!!!