Netflix/Spotify: is it legal to...

Actually you said in the OP, and I assumed you meant getting it from them. Though the netflix licenses wouldn't allow for downloading so it would not apply to any downloaded movies you have.

Now if you are are getting it from another source then your contract with them does not apply. You have a pirated copy no ifs ands or buts about it. Your license would be to get it through them not another source. I have several DVDs it doesn't mean that netflix has to stream them to me for free, they are two different licenses.

It would be like getting food poisoning from a drive thru, and suing my car maker because it was the car that took me through the drive trough. They have nothing to do with one another

So the license is only for viewing content via those sources? what about if I have a photographic memory? Can I watch the movies in my head legally?

That is not watching that is remembering.

That is accessing the data that is stored in my brain that as far as what you are saying goes I'd have no license in doing.

Where did I say you needed a license to remember something. I have only talked about what the netflix licensing says. It says you can not download, not that you can not experience something.


So do you have a guilty conscience? You are trying really hard to justify pirating. There is a difference between remembering and watching.

Not really.

"Not really" to what part? If it's in response to the third sentence (difference between remembering and watching), then your statement is absolutely absurd and negates any possibility of having an intelligent discussion.

If it's in response to either of the first two sentences, that's fine.

Sums it up pretty well.

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It's not the same. These services pay artists per play of each song or movie (look up ASCAP, which does the same thing with radio stations and so forth).

remembering is just playing data. Data that you recorded from your eyes (camera) your ears (microphone) your skin (haven't got anythng yet) or from your own thoughts.

There is no difference beside the unreliability of human memory between recalling something from memory and going to a movie and recording with a camera from a pure systems point of view.

No, it is illegal. Period. End of story. Having copies of things, digital or otherwise, that you did not purchase is piracy.

Now, is the FBI going to bust down your door and arrest you for it? Probably not.

Unless you're selling those file copies to other people, of course, then you're going to get noticed.

Technically incorrect.
Data is able to be transferred. Even if you tell someone word for word how something happened their own life experiences and biases will tint it to become their own memory.

At least until the thought police arrive... Then we're all screwed.

So according to this theory, having sex with someone would be the same as remembering having sex with that person. Just because it may "technically" be the same data doesn't make it the same experience. There are multiple other factors involved. That would be like saying watching a video of a rock concert is the same as going to see it live. All the audio/visual data may be the same, but there's a world of difference, and I don't just mean the other senses that can't be replicated through video.

Yes technically it is illegal in the states with their laws. Does that mean the cops are watching every keystroke you make to download stuff....no they are not, I think there are more important things to stop on the internets than piracy. For what companies do that is up to them to burn resource.

I do not care if you d/l you stuff or not ... no about your morality on the subject. Do what you like support people on how you want to support them. Just expect what you get in the end and not be disillusioned.

I do pirate, and buy tonnes of stuff I truly enjoy from movies to games to help support the people who work hard, I make sure my money (for music) goes right to bands and not to the record company execs.

I think we are in the mid-span of changes more to digital with the trends that are coming out. Will it stop piracy fully? No, but it will give people the options to pay people directly or have it in any other format.

Good example I have seen so far is Metallica, every bit of their live runs so far you can buy a digital download in .mp3 and .flac files, with all the stuff to make your own album. I went online bought it supported them more and enjoy the ride.

When they outlaw cybernetic memory storage implants, only pirates will have cybernetic memory storage implants.

Why would I care about that and what does that have to do with this and how do you even know that is true?

No I haven't.
And even if it were true what does that have to do with this?

Seriously?

Your straw man argument isn't nearly as clever as you'd like to think. Even if you could remember every detail of the movie flawlessly (and I'm extremely doubtful you of all people could), it's your memory. It is not the movie itself, and even if it was, your memory would fall under personal use.

I have to ask, though, why do you bother starting threads asking questions you obviously already have a stubborn (illogical) conclusion to. Just state your opinion and let's lose any insinuation that you're really looking for open minded discussion.

Lol are you serious?