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Is anybody else having problems with lock ups on this mission.. I can run this mission one time and on the second run shortly after all the ambushes spawn COH locks up.. I have tried new drivers, check files, lower graphics settings to no avail.

Funny thing is, the first day I did this mission I ran it back to back for about an hour no problems at all. Now all of a sudden poof, its gone to crap on me.
Just thought I would post an update. I found a thread talking about crashes and what not in Technical Help and some one recommended turning off vertical sync, and sure enough I was able to complete several runs in a row with no crashes. Crossing my fingers but I am pretty sure that fixed it.


 

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Tried this out last night. 0-22 and several million inf in under two hours. Excellent guide.


 

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Made my modest attempt at this these last couple days. I'm not much of a button masher, and definitely exceeded the 5 1/2 hours by about 10 hours but I made it to 50 in two days, my fastest time ever. I wouldn't want to ever repeat this but it was a worthwhile experiment.

It was interesting running into people of a like-mind. You see a CE brute hanging out in AE, and you send the simple "CEBR?" and they respond with "Yep".


 

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Level 50 CEBR #8 on Union finished, though the total time was 5:53. I hit level 42.8 at 4 hours, and 46.9 at 5 hours. I died once in the first 3 hours when I started this character last week, and once more finishing it up when I forgot to hit my Inspirations after entering the mish.

I was stopping at the first spawn and using Hand Grenade to agro the second one. I don't think I wasted much time on bidding for or crafting the Grenades as I have /auctionhouse and base teleport. I don't know why it took a bit longer than normal, but it wasn't much.


Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304

 

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Valley Kitten is now at level 32. Another run and she'll clear 100 million in inf. She also has a background and a costume I'm mostly happy with. My plan now is to use CEBR to get her to 40, then do the patron arc, then finish up her redside explorations while doing rogue tips.

Which brings me to the normal play build. While I wasn't surprised at the lack of defense, I was in the lack of Power Sink. I imagine a sacrifice had to be made in the name of damage and recharge, but that's a handy sap to have - especially for a high recharge build that's going to be hammering hard on the blue bar. Granted, having Energize up as often as possible will help with endurance, but is it enough to keep from being stuck on blue skittles?


Blood Widow Ricki * Tide Shifter * T-34 * Opposite Reaction * Shaolin Midnight * ChernobylCheerleader

 

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Valley Kitten is now at level 32. Another run and she'll clear 100 million in inf. She also has a background and a costume I'm mostly happy with. My plan now is to use CEBR to get her to 40, then do the patron arc, then finish up her redside explorations while doing rogue tips.

Which brings me to the normal play build. While I wasn't surprised at the lack of defense, I was in the lack of Power Sink. I imagine a sacrifice had to be made in the name of damage and recharge, but that's a handy sap to have - especially for a high recharge build that's going to be hammering hard on the blue bar. Granted, having Energize up as often as possible will help with endurance, but is it enough to keep from being stuck on blue skittles?
Why would you skip power sink? Maybe post the build and we all can look it over?


 

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Why would you skip power sink? Maybe post the build and we all can look it over?
I wouldn't, but check TopDoc's first post for the normal build.


Blood Widow Ricki * Tide Shifter * T-34 * Opposite Reaction * Shaolin Midnight * ChernobylCheerleader

 

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Generally IOd builds have significantly fewer END problems than other builds. High-Recharge High-DPS IOd builds are an exception, but the general play build I posted isn't all that bad. It has decent END Reduction slotting most places, and Energize really helps. I play with Hasten on auto, but with this char maybe it should be Energize on auto. And remember I recommended Destiny Ageless for the Recharge buff, but that also improves End. Feel free to post a different build with Power Sink, and tell us how it works.

By the way, I finished my Ticket Spreadsheet and posted my results over in the Market forum. Generally the most effective way to spend Tickets is on Bronze rolls level 15-19. The big sellers are the Reactive Armor, Steadfast: Res/Def, and Rectified Reticles.


Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304

 

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Generally IOd builds have significantly fewer END problems than other builds. High-Recharge High-DPS IOd builds are an exception, but the general play build I posted isn't all that bad. It has decent END Reduction slotting most places, and Energize really helps. I play with Hasten on auto, but with this char maybe it should be Energize on auto. And remember I recommended Destiny Ageless for the Recharge buff, but that also improves End. Feel free to post a different build with Power Sink, and tell us how it works.

By the way, I finished my Ticket Spreadsheet and posted my results over in the Market forum. Generally the most effective way to spend Tickets is on Bronze rolls level 15-19. The big sellers are the Reactive Armor, Steadfast: Res/Def, and Rectified Reticles.
The other thing to keep in mind with Power sink, is the extra survival it gives you. Lightning field does -end, and power sink has a 30% chance for -recovery, in addition to its massive -end. So you can drain mobs down, keep them down and a drained mob isn't hitting back, making your life that much easier. On high recharge builds, you can really put some hurt on mobs with power sink and lightning field, allowing you to tear them apart while their endurance bottoms out.


 

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Here's the Mostly Generic/SO Compatible Build I was planning on putting on mine. I don't care to invest in a full IO version, but there were a few places IOs were particularly useful. Basically same build, but nerfed, particularly nerfed in AoE. I debated pretty heavily between shockwave for Survivability and Eviscerate for damage. But, since this isn't going to be a main, and not likely to see much general play-time, I just went with Eviserate. For the most part because I would have normally chosen shockwave for survivability.


 

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Feel free to post a different build with Power Sink, and tell us how it works.
I put this together last night:

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.942
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Valley Kitten: Level 50 Science Brute
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Strike -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(7), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 1: Charged Armor -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(40), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(40), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 2: Slash -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(11), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Super Speed -- QckFt-EndRdx/RunSpd(A)
Level 6: Spin -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(17), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(19), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21)
Level 8: Follow Up -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(21), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), GSFC-Build%(25)
Level 10: Static Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(46), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Conductive Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(34), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(50), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 16: Grounded -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 18: Focus -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(27), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 20: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 22: Lightning Field -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(43), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(43), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 28: Energize -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(29), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Dct'dW-Rchg(31)
Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Shockwave -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng(34), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 35: Power Sink -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(39), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(39), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 38: Power Surge -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42)
Level 44: Electrifying Fences -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(45), Posi-Dmg/Rng(45), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 47: Ball Lightning -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Taunt -- Zinger-Dam%(A)
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(5), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(7)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(3), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(3), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(5)

I swapped the Striker for Power Sink, and toyed with a few of the other IOs. With Hasten and Energize up, she's running at 144% global recharge with 2.2 end over use plus whatever she can yoink from Power Sink. In this case, I imagine it may be mostly for mitigation. I don't remember Scirocco's being too pricey, and I'm not sure what the going rate on Imperviums are either, but I don't think it'd still be too much out of the budget for when my brute hits her patron arc. At the least, I can save the Performance Shifters for last.


Blood Widow Ricki * Tide Shifter * T-34 * Opposite Reaction * Shaolin Midnight * ChernobylCheerleader

 

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Most IOs are dirt cheap these days, considering how much you can earn per hour. Sciroccos mostly under a million, and the one exception is only a few million. You'll spend more on rare salvage than you will on the recipes, unless you have a ticket farming Brute who can get Rare Salvage quickly and easily.

I started a new brute on Vigilence. At 1:02 I'm at level 25.4, so a bit faster. I just use the vet Blackwand attack to pull the second boss, and he comes alone and doesn't get hung up on the rest of the spawn charging. I think that helps a bit. Then the Nemesis Staff on the second boss pulls more of the spawn.

I started with only 10k starter Inf emailed to myself, and that worked out fine. I had to sell my first Rare Salvage for 1 to get enough to list the others, but that's hardly anything. At 30 I'm going to start rolling Bronze 15-19 as I recommended above, and see how that works. I'll be getting the highest level Steadfast: Res/Def and Rectified Reticles, so those should sell fast. The Reactive Armors won't be 40 till I am, but hopefully I'll still get some decent Inf for them. We'll see how I end up at 50 doing this.


Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304

 

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At 2 hours on my Vigilence Brute I'm level 32.4, which is more normal. I realize why my first hour was faster than normal, I forgot to start a SG. I've died twice, once likely because I didn't have the Increase Attack Speed empowerment buff. I just felt so slow. I started the SG and things are going better now that I have the buff.

I tried my first set of Bronze 15-19 rolls and was rather disappointed with the results. Sure I got a handful of Reactive Armors, but at level 31 they don't sell for much at all. A LOT of the value in the Bronze 15-19 range is Reactive Armors. Plus it took a while, but that's to be expected. I took another look at my recipe spreadsheet and found that Silver 10-14 is a MUCH better table to roll on when you are between 30 and 39. All of the money rolls on that table top out at level 30 or below, which means you'll get top dollar for everything. It's also faster. So that's what I'll be rolling on till I hit 40.


Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304

 

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At 2 hours on my Vigilence Brute I'm level 32.4, which is more normal. I realize why my first hour was faster than normal, I forgot to start a SG. I've died twice, once likely because I didn't have the Increase Attack Speed empowerment buff. I just felt so slow. I started the SG and things are going better now that I have the buff.

I tried my first set of Bronze 15-19 rolls and was rather disappointed with the results. Sure I got a handful of Reactive Armors, but at level 31 they don't sell for much at all. A LOT of the value in the Bronze 15-19 range is Reactive Armors. Plus it took a while, but that's to be expected. I took another look at my recipe spreadsheet and found that Silver 10-14 is a MUCH better table to roll on when you are between 30 and 39. All of the money rolls on that table top out at level 30 or below, which means you'll get top dollar for everything. It's also faster. So that's what I'll be rolling on till I hit 40.
I am starting to think at this point that much like the crazy 88's have branches on several servers with bases and the like that your CEBR's should have a Farmers Union outpost of several shards to obviate the need to set up a base for each alt. I'd be interested to see how quickly a group doing this could crack the top 100 on a busy server.


Global: @Kelig

 

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I don't plan to use my CEBR SGs for personal storage, so I'll invite people if they want to get a head start. I've got them on Liberty, Victory, Champion, Zukunft, Defiant, Guardian, Union, and Vigilence. At the moment they all have an Empowerment station and sometimes a Salvage storage bin with the Salvage needed for the Increase Attack Rate empowerment buff. Join the old "Buffer Overrun" global chat channel to see if I'm on and send me a /tell @TopDoc.

I hit 50 on Vigilence after 6 and a half hours. The delay was because I was buying recipes rather than Salvage. I've got 875M so far and I should hit over a billion when the rest of my stuff sells. So it's about the same as leveling up to 50 and then ticket farming for another hour. As I mentioned before, buy Silver 10-14 recipes from level 30-39, then Bronze 15-19 recipes from 40 to 50.

My new strategy was to do a mission, roll 2 sets of recipes, delete the junk and put the good stuff into the Market, then start over. Hasten would recharge right around then, so I was running with Hasten every mission as long as my tickets held out. You don't quite earn enough tickets to do 2 sets of recipes from a single mission, so I sometimes ran a mission with Power Surge rather than rolling for tickets. That would generate enough extra tickets to run several sets of mission+Hasten&recipes.

I could do this because I have /auctionhouse, so I can bring up the Market interface while talking to the Ticket Vendor inside the AE building. Roll tickets, put the recipes I want to keep right into the Market, delete the junk, repeat. If you don't have /auctionhouse, you can still use "/toggle auction" which I believe will let you see what you have. It may even let you check prices, so you know what to keep and sell. When you run out of tickets, you can drop off the good stuff at the Black Market right outside the AE building in Mercy.


Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304

 

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This thread is great. I don't like catgirls, however. Will a foxboy do instead?


Ware ni tatenu mono mashi!!
[There are none before me who have not been cleaved!!]

 

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This is simply an awesome guide. I started this morning, i'm currently at level 35 AND the first silver recipe I bought was a Miracle Proc. I have a SG base on a new server and over 100 million inf, and I'm not even level 50 yet.

This was the PERFECT way to return after a 4 year absence. Thanks TopDoc!


 

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ArcticShu, I'd say you're welcome, but I'm a bit confused. The Miracle proc isn't a Silver drop.

ChiosuBlues, every time I see a foxboy from now on I'll just imagine that it's a catgirl. We both win.


Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304

 

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ArcticShu, I'd say you're welcome, but I'm a bit confused. The Miracle proc isn't a Silver drop.

ChiosuBlues, every time I see a foxboy from now on I'll just imagine that it's a catgirl. We both win.
Thats just me coming back and not knowing the names. Whatever pool it was I rolled on, it was my first recipe reward (and also the only IO I have slotted currently lol).

Also, for the record, I made a catgirl cuz the guide told me to. i have 0 other female toons. Be proud!


 

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I just wanted to thank TopDoc for this guide. While I didn't roll claws/elec (went SS/FA), the info you provided made the journey to 50 easy, fast and lucrative.


Freedom:

Biggo Shaker (SS/FA Brute)
Timbuck (SS/FA Brute)

 

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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=271316
Sounds like MARTy is going to seriously slow down the leveling times doing this.
They swear this is only for something like defeating every mob in Perez Park at once, or one-shotting the freedom Phalanx...

Still... I don't know... This looks bad.

And I have 3 claws/elec brutes now, and they are all fun (different servers)


 

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It is our discretion that a player should not be able to level from 1-50 in a trivial amount of time.
I'm guessing, but Doc's times would likely be too fast for this.


 

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seether28, where did you get that quote? I can't find the context.