So what's in I21 and what's for beyond?


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I've seen so many bits and pieces of new info lately that I'm starting to get a little confused. It being 3 AM doesn't help, but I honestly just lost track of what's supposed to come out when. Let's see if I can break this down into several questions:

1. Is Freedom launching with I21 will it launch afterwards (possibly with I22)?

2. Time Manipulation and the First Ward are in I21, right?

3. Are we certain that Titanic Weapons are NOT in I21 but will instead come out later?

4. We heard a lot about really awesome power proliferation. When is that slated to happen?

5. Aside from Incarnate stuff, what else am I forgetting?

I apologise if I'm asking stupid or obvious questions. I know the info is out there, as well as here on the forums, but it's scattered in Ustream chats and articles and interviews and offhand comments and I can no longer keep track of these. I'm not looking for specifics or exact schedules, just rough ideas will be fine.


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I've seen so many bits and pieces of new info lately that I'm starting to get a little confused. It being 3 AM doesn't help, but I honestly just lost track of what's supposed to come out when. Let's see if I can break this down into several questions:

1. Is Freedom launching with I21 will it launch afterwards (possibly with I22)?

2. Time Manipulation and the First Ward are in I21, right?

3. Are we certain that Titanic Weapons are NOT in I21 but will instead come out later?

4. We heard a lot about really awesome power customization. When is that slated to happen?

5. Aside from Incarnate stuff, what else am I forgetting?

I apologise if I'm asking stupid or obvious questions. I know the info is out there, as well as here on the forums, but it's scattered in Ustream chats and articles and interviews and offhand comments and I can no longer keep track of these. I'm not looking for specifics or exact schedules, just rough ideas will be fine.
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. We have? News to me.
5. The store and every new thing in it. The Paragon Rewards program. Presumably the beginning of Signature Arcs. The next round of Powerset Proliferation. New costume sets. Possibly changes to the power pools. New tutorial and beginning arcs. Revamp to Mercy and Atlas.


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1. yes, i believe with

2. yes

3. yes, it is not gonna be i21

4. i have not heard much on that

5. idk lol


 

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4. We have? News to me.
It's 3AM, so Sam is probably misremembering 'proliferation' as 'customization'.


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  • Galaxy city tutorial
  • Atlas park *graphic upgrade*
  • New costume pieces/auras/temp powers
Thats all i have on top of what you got


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2. Time Manipulation and the First Ward are in I21, right?
And Street Justice!

Doesn't it just make you want to punch someone?


 

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It's 3AM, so Sam is probably misremembering 'proliferation' as 'customization'.
Mistyping more than misremembering, but yes, I meant "proliferation" I'm looking to swap an existing Sword/Regen Scrapper to either a Sword/Shield Brute or a TW/Regen Scrapper, and which I make him kind of depends on which comes first.

If Freedom launches with I21, that means energy wings, and since I'm already a 72 month veteran, I'll be getting pretty much everything decent out of the reward pools, wings included. This means the possibility of making new characters with them, since they wouldn't fit any of my old ones. To make new characters, however, I need either new powersets or proliferated such, and Time Manipulation hasn't given me any ideas yet, especially since the only AT I play that gets access to that is Masterminds and I'm dangerously close to having two of every primary.

So let me revise the "customization" question and instead ask a new Question 4:

4. We heard a lot about really awesome power proliferation. When is that slated to happen?

I'll go edit the OP right now.

*edit*
Also, I WAS forgetting the revamp of Atlas and Mercy. Now I remember why I wanted to make new characters


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Everything looks like it got answered for you, Sam.
I21/Freedom is shaping up to be a huge issue.

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And Street Justice!

Doesn't it just make you want to punch someone?
Which is new from the comic con floor as I understand it and not in the previous slate of announcements. Beam guns too.


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Everything looks like it got answered for you, Sam.
I21/Freedom is shaping up to be a huge issue.

Which new from the comic con floor as I understand it and not in the previous slate of announcements. Beam guns too.
"Galaxy City is under extreme Shivan attack. Both Arachnos and Long Bow are on the scene trying to drive them back. A new super powered person trying to save your earth from invaders, you fight your way past the Shivan--"

And launch the Statesclad Defense?

"--till you find a hero nearly dead on the ground. You are given the choice to save(hero) or leave(villain) the man on your way to the center of the Shivan invasion. Inside you fight waves of Shivan much like the events in Praetoria until a giant Shivan pops up. Fight him till he crawls away and you can now move on to the newly renovated Atlas Park and Mercy Island."

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Everything looks like it got answered for you, Sam.
Almost everything. The one thing I still don't know about is powerset proliferation. As I said before, I'll want some new sets to play around with, and proliferate powersets are great for this.

*edit*
Also, "Street Justice." Did NOT know about that one. Definitely something I want to look into. Possibly something that could mandate a character reroll depending on the look of the thing. That or a new character. Just hope the thing scales well enough to fighting a Kronos Titan with.


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Almost everything. The one thing I still don't know about is powerset proliferation. As I said before, I'll want some new sets to play around with, and proliferate powersets are great for this.
Uhh....


 

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Uhh....
Where in that post does it say WHEN said proliferation will be included in the game? I saw no dates, no mention of Issues, no mention of Freedom or anything other than just an explanation of what powerset proliferation IS. I know what it is by now, I've seen the list quite a few times. I don't know WHEN it is, and I don't see that info in the post linked.


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Where in that post does it say WHEN said proliferation will be included in the game? I saw no dates, no mention of Issues, no mention of Freedom or anything other than just an explanation of what powerset proliferation IS. I know what it is by now, I've seen the list quite a few times. I don't know WHEN it is, and I don't see that info in the post linked.
I am looking Sam. I am sure that there was mentioned made of timing at some point.

edit: and Voodoo Girl beat me to the links.


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There was an entire Ustream broadcast about powerset proliferation.

I'll repeat:

There was an entire Ustream broadcast about powerset proliferation.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=265047

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=265057

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=265044

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/15833013

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I highly doubt they would announce Powerset Prolif if it wasn't going to be a part of i21, let alone do a Ustream Broadcast on it and an Intrepid Informer post.


 

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I am looking Sam. I am sure that there was mentioned made of timing at some point.
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I highly doubt they would announce Powerset Prolif if it wasn't going to be a part of i21, let alone do a Ustream Broadcast on it and an Intrepid Informer post.
I should point out that I'm not necessarily looking for EVIDENCE of what the developers have said in plain text I am more than willing to take your word for what you remember, so don't worry about finding specific posts. If you believe that powerset proliferation is coming with I21 and Freedom, then that's good enough for me.

That's great, actually. It means I'll have a whole host of characters to take through the new Tutorial. All right! What this means is the Herald of Light will become a Sword/Shield Brute, and probably get a better name, too. It also means that Jun might swap her Martial Arts for Street Justice. We'll see how that goes. Sweet. Cool. That's very good news. Very good news indeed!

Hell, now that I think about it, this also means that Valeena may end up not having to be rerolled with a Katana, but may end up using a Vanguard axe and shield combo as a Scrapper. That would be pretty dang cool!

OK, that's all GREAT news, then


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Yes, the most recently released set of Proliferated sets (the one with dark blast for Blasters, and nothing for Doms) is a component of i21/Freedom. That was from the UStream with..uh.. Synapse(?).


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I21 is shaping up to be a huge issue from what they've told us so far.



My one disappointment remains the complete lack of Dominator love, but it still seems pretty spiffy and I'm looking forward to it.


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Yes, the most recently released set of Proliferated sets (the one with dark blast for Blasters, and nothing for Doms) is a component of i21/Freedom. That was from the UStream with..uh.. Synapse(?).
Sweet! OK, that's one big thing in the fairly near future. Looks like City of Heroes has me by the neck and there's no getting away. Every time I think I've had enough and there's nothing to look forward to, there's something like this within the next few months and I keep sticking around to wait for it

Titanic Weapons is the biggest thing I want, but powerset proliferation will go a LONG way towards keeping me entertained until then.

OK, NOW I have all my answers, and thank you so much for the help


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I thought Proliferation 3.0 was a post-21 item as well.

If it's not, then I'm looking forward to such a huge expansion of powers.


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No, it's part of I21




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No, it's part of I21
Now I'm glad I made this thread. I was under the impression that I21 would just be a zone and Time Manipulation and I was kind of bummed about it, but learning what it really is has me excited all over again. The next couple of Issues could really stand to turn my mind around on the game and return me to the ecstatic enthusiasm I felt back in I16 when I realised I could expand pretty much all of my characters


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return me to the ecstatic enthusiasm I felt back in I16 when I realised I could expand pretty much all of my characters
We got access to body sliders well before issue 16.


 

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3. Are we certain that Titanic Weapons are NOT in I21 but will instead come out later?

4. We heard a lot about really awesome power proliferation. When is that slated to happen?

5. Aside from Incarnate stuff, what else am I forgetting?
3. Not in the character creator NCSoft is showing at SDCC, so presumably not.

4. With I21, looks like.

5. The character creation UI has a major revamp. You start by picking a 'play style', like 'Support' or 'Control', which takes you to a selection from the archetypes that fall into that category. The body type screen has silhouettes of the three types -- Male, Female, and Huge, and instead of having 'slim', 'normal', 'athletic', etc. as text, they're 'body shape' icons. The costume screen itself is grossly similar, but the style is changed, and things like the 'copy colors across entire costume button have moved.


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