Issue 21


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No date yet. Alternate answer: second Tuesday of next week.


 

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Latest info is "This Year". Beyond that? Nobody knows.


 

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I keep seeing "in the Fall" but I don't know if that came from a redname, or is just player speculation.


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Originally Posted by Sukothai View Post
When does it come out? I've looked everywhere for a date!
We'll get a few hints when it's much much closer to completion. Since it's still in closed beta, on a recent build, with a small pool of testers--I'd say we have a while.


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My money's on November, since that tends to be a popular month for Issue releases, unless there's some other new MMO coming out sooner, in which case the i21 release will probably conveniently coincide with such.


 

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I swear, I saw September mentioned at some point, but since I can't find that now, I'll just blame my exceptionally poor memory for that date. Honestly, with what they want to do for I21, I wouldn't be surprised if it's not going to be out until November or December.


 

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Originally Posted by Kierthos View Post
I swear, I saw September mentioned at some point, but since I can't find that now, I'll just blame my exceptionally poor memory for that date. Honestly, with what they want to do for I21, I wouldn't be surprised if it's not going to be out until November or December.
Paraphrasing...

Player: What about our October Vet Reward?

Producer: That will be taken care of before October.

Playerbase: It's coming out in October. Or November. [yeah, don't know where November came from. -zm]

Zombie Man: Seems to me it will be September since that's *before October*.

Playerbase: We refuse to have such optimism and the producer clearly meant October or later and Zombie Man's reading of that statement is totally wrong.

Zombie Man: Well, then, likewise, you can't take the Producer's statement to mean 'exactly October.'


End result: We don't know.


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Originally Posted by Sukothai View Post
When does it come out? I've looked everywhere for a date!
Are you trying to find a date for before it comes out? Or are you looking for companionship for the release night?


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Originally Posted by Lazarillo View Post
My money's on November, since that tends to be a popular month for Issue releases, unless there's some other new MMO coming out sooner, in which case the i21 release will probably conveniently coincide with such.
Star Wars the Old Republic is 'suppose' to launch in the last half of 2011. Whether that's November or not will is unknown.


 

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Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
Playerbase: We refuse to have such optimism and the producer clearly meant October or later and Zombie Man's reading of that statement is totally wrong.
I admit, that you've given a decent enough reason to put expectations on it between now and the end of October. But yeah, even though I think you're reading the statement right, it's probably one of those "would be great" goals, but I just don't see it happening, if for nothing else than because i20 apparently spent 6 months in beta, and i21 has a whole lot more to it.


 

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i would assume around october +/- 1 month

when i20.5 came to live servers, i21 just started first wave closed beta with an 1800 MB patch

based on the size of i21 and that its been in first wave closed beta approx 2 weeks my guess would be november if everything is on schedule

its possible it could be early december or even next year if there are major bugs found


 

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Rarely will you hear of an exact launch date of something like a new issue more than a week or so before it actually happens. It certainly won't happen during closed beta because its still being developed and tested. All it takes is one game breaking bug to be found that is extremely hard to fix to push a date off the target. Then they have to deal with the fallout of people whining about 'but you said Septober 32nd and that was yesterday and its not out yet!?!?! OMG DOOOOM!!!1!!!!'.

Much easier to not announce a date until they know for sure. Even when they do announce it, its always with an asterisk and a disclaimer saying that can change at any moment up until the moment its is actually out (and even a bit afterwards) for any reason we see fit with or without explanation or warning.

As others have said, they have only publicly said that they are hoping for sometime this year. That means between now and whenever the end of the time period they define as a year is, which they didn't necessarily state which calendar they were following, if this year refers to a calendar year or within a year from the time of saying it, or that they were talking about earth years (Neptune has a LONG orbit).


 

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Well it went into closed beta about 2 weeks ago. So.... Generally a closed beta runs 4 - 8 weeks with open beta being 2 - 4 weeks. Generally.

A dev mentioned before October in reference to something that is known to be in I21. So ... Really optimistic would be mid August. Not so likely so generally optimistic early to mid September. If things are tricky and take time to work out ... Late September into October. If things are really complicated and have to go back for redesign 20 times.... after October.....

Yeah, yeah Zman I know I still include October but until it is in open beta we have no real idea so it makes a good fall back month to estimate if things don't go smoothly. Given that they have been working on this for most of a year I actually think September is good for it after getting chastised by Zman.


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What no standard answer of Soon™ ?


 

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I can't remember the last time we got a firm release date farther than about a week in advance; since i21 is apparently still in early closed beta I would be surprised if it launched sooner than September. I'd expect at least another month of closed beta then a fair amount of open beta before they launch.

Still we just got a fair amount of new goodies with issue 20.5; that ought to help tide us over until 21 is ready. The only thing I'd feel relatively confident about saying is that 21 will release before Christmas. Maybe September, maybe October but I doubt it'll take until December.

At this point 21 is still very much hush hush and anyone who knows much can't talk about it. Heck, anything now may be totally different by the time it makes it through open and closed beta to live, that's why they have a closed beta. After all if players find that somehow power "x" is working like [The I Win Button] expect something to change


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Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome View Post
I can't remember the last time we got a firm release date farther than about a week in advance; since i21 is apparently still in early closed beta I would be surprised if it launched sooner than September. I'd expect at least another month of closed beta then a fair amount of open beta before they launch.
Some would say Going Rogue/Issue 18. Some would say Issue 19, although the date was stated with a qualifier. And of course, they had to invoke that qualification and delay it.


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I will say Sept. 16th. or sometime there abouts. =)

And yes I am nuts. =)


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I20 was released on 5 April, I20.5 on 28 June...
I hope I21 is released between September and October, I really cant wait for Freedom.
The devs said the server merge would be at end of summer and it was released before, so we can only hope they follow the same trend with Freedom.


 

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Originally Posted by Angelxman81 View Post
I20 was released on 5 April, I20.5 on 28 June...
I hope I21 is released between September and October, I really cant wait for Freedom.
The devs said the server merge would be at end of summer and it was released before, so we can only hope they follow the same trend with Freedom.
The devs also told us that Going Rogue was supposed to launch in the first quarter of 2010 and it didn't get released until 8 months later in August.

For every example you can think of where we got something early we can point to another where we got it late or haven't gotten it at all yet.

I21 will be ready when it's ready.


 

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
The devs also told us that Going Rogue was supposed to launch in the first quarter of 2010 and it didn't get released until 8 months later in August.

For every example you can think of where we got something early we can point to another where we got it late or haven't gotten it at all yet.

I21 will be ready when it's ready.
It'll be released when it's ready at which point it'll be really cool, it won't include anything for <insert item here>, it'll be loaded with bugs, it'll be the best ever, it'll be the worst ever, dogs and cats will live together and it'll be mass chaos.

I just wanted to get all the opinions out there


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Well, there was a huge gamble on the Blaster boards about Dark Manipulation, so somebody start a pool about the release date.


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Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome View Post
It'll be released when it's ready at which point it'll be really cool, it won't include anything for <insert item here>, it'll be loaded with bugs, it'll be the best ever, it'll be the worst ever, dogs and cats will live together and it'll be mass chaos.

I just wanted to get all the opinions out there

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