Quote:
Both will be FAILED sets then...
|
Originally Posted by Sardan
I'd like a Big Government theme. How about IRS Control and Homeland Security Assault?
|
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
I'm hoping for improvements to Gravity Control.
-Propel's animation time decreasing / maybe getting an AoE damage component (i'm told the latter is very unlikely)
-Wormhole not causing aggro until the power finishes resolving (makes it very hard to use if you can't hide behind geometry) (I also think a damage component would be pretty cool)
-Gravity Distortion Field recharging in less than a year
-Dimension Shift getting removed and replaced with a power that doesn't totally suck 
Whip assault secondary would be pretty cool if I didn't think it would be accompanied by a lot of xxDarkShadowMistressxx characters 
. Also, radiation seems solely under-represented.
Quote:
I'd like to see the other stuff you listed implemented (well the AoE on Propel is iffy like you said but the rest is good), but can't see the above being done since the duration/recharge on all Dominator/Controller mass holds are the same.|
Originally Posted by Machariel
-Gravity Distortion Field recharging in less than a year
|
(I'm going by your forum join date on this so apologies if you were actually around back then...)
Before Issue 5 mass holds used to last twice as long as they do now and recharge in half the time. Combined with no max target cap on AoEs back then Controllers could literally perma-hold an entire room once the Tank ran around and gathered them all up for you. Jack Emmert did not like this and said the game had turned into 'City of Statues' and so mass holds were gutted in I5.
I get the impression that the current devs are happy with them being more of a panic button than an every-spawn power now too. And actually, on a Domi with Domination+Power Boost they're still pretty sweet
Oh, for some reason I thought that Gravity's mass hold took a lot longer to recharge. Thanks for the correction
Besides, with a few recharge bonuses and hasten on autofire it comes up pretty often anyway so that's certainly the least of the problems.
(i've actually been playing sporadically for several years but just recently got really into the game so feel free to consider me roughly as new as my forum join date indicates )
Gadget control. Using web grenades, bolos, maybe even chains etc, to tie your target up.
Tech Assault. Tasers, ranged laser blasts, stuff like that. That'd be neat.
This is a very brief post I know, but am in work and don't have time to elucidate further. But hopefully somebody has an idea what I mean. 
if they do a tech assault I really want a satellite laser cannon... A flash of light and a beam shoots down from the heavens...BOOM!
and if they're saying that this round of proliferation were things that didn't ned a lot of reworking, so doesn't that indicate that if/when they do port illusion there will be changes to the set.
Quote:
Well, Arachnos Wolf Spiders have a number of melee attacks using their Assault Rifle so those could probably be repurposed for Assault Rifle Assault.|
Originally Posted by Snowzone
A purely Assault Rifle set would most likely need some new powers, particularly melee ones.
|
That being said I'd still prefer a "Sword and Pistol" style Assault set to an Assault Rifle Assault set.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Well, Arachnos Wolf Spiders have a number of melee attacks using their Assault Rifle so those could probably be repurposed for Assault Rifle Assault.
That being said I'd still prefer a "Sword and Pistol" style Assault set to an Assault Rifle Assault set. |
Masamune Date you are not, sir.
Quote:
Huh?
|
Originally Posted by Reppu
Masamune Date you are not, sir.
|
Wh... I...
I don't even.
If I was a developer, I'd kill 2 birds with one stone and not bother making any new powers or animations. Just combine the 2 most asked for primaries into one and you don't need too much extra work. Most control sets follow the same format and dark and illusions could be combined easily to fit that mold without overlapping with a dark assault secondary similar to what blasters are getting.
Spectral Wounds
Blind
Tenebrous Tentacles
Tar Patch or Deceive or Group Invis
Howling Twilight (No rez, shorter recharge disorient kinda like stalagmites or flashfire.)
Phantom Army
Flash
Fearsome Stare/Terrify or Spectral Terror
Phantasm or Dark Servant
Something like this would mesh both together while keeping with the standards for control primaries. T1 and T2 from Illusions, T3 AoE immobilize, T4 another power from illusions or tar patch (earth gets quicksand so why not?), T5 taoe stun, T6 PA, T7 and T8 aoe hold and extra power, T9 Pet.
Just some quick recoloring on illusion powers to make them darker and you have a new power set that follows the rules, doesn't require any changes to the already created controller sets, and makes everyone happy.
Quote:
Good idea too. So the powers that don't benefit much from Domination like Spectral Fear, they can change it to Fearsome Stare.
|
Originally Posted by LuxunS
If I was a developer, I'd kill 2 birds with one stone and not bother making any new powers or animations. Just combine the 2 most asked for primaries into one and you don't need too much extra work. Most control sets follow the same format and dark and illusions could be combined easily to fit that mold without overlapping with a dark assault secondary similar to what blasters are getting.
Spectral Wounds Blind Tenebrous Tentacles Tar Patch or Deceive or Group Invis Howling Twilight (No rez, shorter recharge disorient kinda like stalagmites or flashfire.) Phantom Army Flash Fearsome Stare/Terrify or Spectral Terror Phantasm or Dark Servant Something like this would mesh both together while keeping with the standards for control primaries. T1 and T2 from Illusions, T3 AoE immobilize, T4 another power from illusions or tar patch (earth gets quicksand so why not?), T5 taoe stun, T6 PA, T7 and T8 aoe hold and extra power, T9 Pet. Just some quick recoloring on illusion powers to make them darker and you have a new power set that follows the rules, doesn't require any changes to the already created controller sets, and makes everyone happy. |
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
Quote:
Sounds like more low-hanging fruit that could be added to the game with the next round of proliferation along with a /dark assault.
|
Originally Posted by Jibikao
Good idea too. So the powers that don't benefit much from Domination like Spectral Fear, they can change it to Fearsome Stare.
|
Please buff Ice Control.
Quote:
I'll try to recreate this at home and post. I've never seen fire swords animate so far back.
|
Originally Posted by Emberly
That's fire sword coloured pinkypurple and viewed on edge.
|
http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/n...stumes%202011/
And there is an updating thread in the City Life Forum that details the three new powersets along with the proliferation.
Beam Gun
Street Justice (Fighting)
Time Manipulation
It seems that Doms are getting nothing for this round... not one thing. So my only speculation is that Dominators better get something super epic and sweet to make up for this "oversight"
Since people are looking at Gravity Control, I wouldnt mind if their was a new bit of tech added to their controls that forced surrounding foes to stick to the target
When you use Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Gravity Distortion Field; the target is held or immobilized but instead of staying put the powers pull eachother to one specific center of gravity--The target that initially received the effect
http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/n...stumes%202011/
Quote:
I'd be surprised if they didn't. Otherwise it would seem weird for them to single out Doms as getting nothing while other sets get both proliferation and entirely new sets. And to even point out the fact in the proliferation announcement.
|
Originally Posted by Shadow Wail
It seems that Doms are getting nothing for this round... not one thing. So my only speculation is that Dominators better get something super epic and sweet to make up for this "oversight"
|
Arc #40529 : The Furies of the Earth
They have already said they have things planned for Doms but they couldnt get it into issue 21 which already looks to be one of the biggest issues ever and a hige game changed with F2P.
People just need to learn to be a little patient..
The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.
If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-
Quote:
I just wish they'd throw us a bone, like a powerset name or screenshot we could spend the next month or two rabidly speculating on. |
Originally Posted by Airhammer
People just need to learn to be a little patient..
|
Arc #40529 : The Furies of the Earth
Quote:
Everything else is getting old and new stuff on i21 launch so why shouldn't Doms?
|
Originally Posted by Airhammer
They have already said they have things planned for Doms but they couldnt get it into issue 21 which already looks to be one of the biggest issues ever and a hige game changed with F2P.
People just need to learn to be a little patient.. |
Quote:
Doms got Earth Assault a new powerset and they also got Electric Control in Issue 18. They also got Hero Epic Pools in issue 18. People are acting like Doms arent getting anything. The reality is that its probably a little harder to balance things for Doms so that they are not overpowered.|
Originally Posted by Snowzone
Everything else is getting old and new stuff on i21 launch so why shouldn't Doms?
|
Id rather they take their time and get it right that rush something out there. There is a lot already in Issue 21 from what we have heard already. Those who are in beta probably realize there is a lot more they just cant say anything because of the EULA.
I love Doms.. probably right now one of my top 3 AT's. I deleted a level 50 Earth/Thermal Controller Just to remake him into a Level 50 Earth/Fire Dom.
The devs didnt say we have nothing planned for Doms.. They said they could fit it in THIS issue.. and this issue is huge. Everyone seems to be ASSUMING that its just a round of Power Proliferation.. Maybe its not.. Maybe its entirely NEW sets that require more time and more artwork. I know something is coming and thats enough for me
The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.
If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-
Yes, Doms got Electric Control but everything else got something too whilst they're also getting stuff now as well. Same for ancillary pools. Earth Control was a side-project and only had one new power, compared to the new powers coming in Dark Blast for Blasters and Ice Armour for Stalkers.
Since the creation of Dominators they've had, what, four primary and secondary power sets added?... Compared to the seven for Blasters, thirteen for Brutes (fourteen if you count Titan Weapons - I didn't because it's coming "later" like all the supposed Dom stuff) and ten for Corruptors, for example. Even Mastermind has had six new sets added. If you decide to include the four ancillary pools added to every AT then just add four to all of those numbers.
I'd say Doms are a lot more balanced than ATs like Brutes and Controllers. The only thing that's remotely broken for Doms is Sleet.
Oh well, at least I don't have to buy the sets that don't interest me.
Now if there are other sets left to be revealed - specifically Control, Assault, Defence and Summoning - then I'll happily eat my words. In a perfect world everything would get a new primary and secondary.
I'm not angry or upset or anything like that. I'd just like to see my favourite ATs getting some love for a change.
Yeah, I was going to say that they really want to keep this "exciting" plan quiet. I thought they would announce a new Dominator set than introducing two more new sets to those that are going to get proliferated sets too.
This "exciting" plan better be FREAKING AWESOME! :P
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Airhammer
Doms got Earth Assault a new powerset and they also got Electric Control in Issue 18. They also got Hero Epic Pools in issue 18. People are acting like Doms arent getting anything. The reality is that its probably a little harder to balance things for Doms so that they are not overpowered.
Id rather they take their time and get it right that rush something out there. There is a lot already in Issue 21 from what we have heard already. Those who are in beta probably realize there is a lot more they just cant say anything because of the EULA. I love Doms.. probably right now one of my top 3 AT's. I deleted a level 50 Earth/Thermal Controller Just to remake him into a Level 50 Earth/Fire Dom. The devs didnt say we have nothing planned for Doms.. They said they could fit it in THIS issue.. and this issue is huge. Everyone seems to be ASSUMING that its just a round of Power Proliferation.. Maybe its not.. Maybe its entirely NEW sets that require more time and more artwork. I know something is coming and thats enough for me |
You talk like Dominator is the only AT that got new sets recently.
I think people are just anxious to hear what is new for Dom.
And yes, they did say they have no time to port a set in this round of Proliferation but they announced FOUR NEW SETS for all core ATs except for Dominator. The announcement of Street Fighting and Beam Rifle is a bit shocking to me because I was under the impression that they don't have time to make "new" sets at all. Well, obviously, they do have time. They just don't have time for Dominator in issue 21.
If issue 21 is as big as it seems, then it is even "bitter" that Dominator isn't getting anything new.
I just want to know WTF is that "exciting' set. Just announce it! How come I have a feeling there is no plan..currently. They may have some rough ideas but "plan" is not yet formed.
(although from profit point of view, making new cash sets that can be used in 3 or 4 ATs is better than making one for only one AT. Dominator isn't even in the top 3 most used.)
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
Whip Assault. They have the animations. Considdering our name is Dominators...and well...we should have whips. They already have two solid melee attacks one being a cone, and one being a single target, and a ranged.
So they would just need stuff like
Coil the Whip = High damage, Imob
Cat of nine tails. A cone again, but with a chance to disorient due to high pain caused
Scourge ( A type of Whip) -Single Target, bleeding (DoT) Lethal Damage, with knockup
Whip Master (Like Aim)
Trying to go with something thematic but already in the game.
Otherwise
Dark Assault
Dark Control
Kinetic Assault
Sign me up for a Dark/Dark Dominator. Yesterday.