Another reason Trials Fail

Wow. That pales in comparison to me asking in League chat who the player "Nova Fist" was.

Not to mention the cutscene bomber who wasn't stealthed enough meaning that Marauder 'saw' him and so he ran *out* of the courtyard with Marauder in tow and thus auto-failing the whole iTrial for everyone.

Just to keep this rolling a bit so that maybe someone will learn from it and stop the Cut Scene nonsense let me relate another FAILED lambda I was on a while ago..


Everything went well until we defeated the Security Guard. I was on a blaster and the league leader assigned our team, team 2, to grenades. We headed in and when 3 of us got to the first container someone attacked so I launched my attacks to cover my team mates. Now WHY anyone would attack a mob designed to challenge an 8 manteam with only 3 I don't know but I am not the type to stand back and watch my team mates die. Short version .. the trios consisted of 2 blasters and a controller.. we all ended up dead.

Now as we are laying there i am wondering where the heck everyone else is and I zoom out on my mini map to discover there are 4 of us in the warehouse and we are all dead. I head to the hospital and send out a message "why are there only 4 people in the warehouse?" The league leader instructs players from team 2 to get to the right side. I head back in and discover 4 or 5 players now scattered all over the map and most are dead or dying.. worse.. the dead ones are not hosping they seem to be waiting for someone to tp and rez them. team one seems to be having trouble with the whole work as a TEAM concept to and eventually time runs out with 10 acids and exactly 2 grenades recovered.

Okay things are going to be tough but not undoable we just need to close the portals and Not AGGRO Maurader until we have more nades. While Team one is closing portals I even say in league chat don't aggro the AV until we are ready.

Oh did I Mention that once again after dying repeatedly TRYING to get grenades there were three members of team 1 in the cut scene? Yeah apparently they saw no need for pacifying Maurader it was more fun to disco in the mini movie.

I don't think i had my warning not to aggro Maurader for more than a few seconds before all of his support troops and Maurder himself were attacking us. The BRILLIANT trio that just had to dance with the AV managed to aggro him trying to get back to us and pulled everything down on top of us.

People were dying left and right and suddenly things got worse.. the acid team hadn't closed more than 5 portals and reinforcements were pouring in and heading straight for us. We couldn't get to the weapon drops to grab grenades because we couldn't stay alive long enough. People started to quit when it became obvious we couldn't win.... including some of the ones that had the remaining acids. We were down to about 4 minutes left and half the team was gone , we had NO more grenades than when we first left the facility and still had five protals open. Last post i saw from the leader before I quit after my 10th death was "Okay lets let the timer run out and start over and try to figure out where we went wrong"

Where we went wrong? What did we do right? LOL

1. Teams did not pay attention and do what they were assigned to do.. 12 players on acids is 4 TOO MANY.

2. After being instructed to get where they belonged most players did head to the rigth spot but on both sidesit seemed like no one payed attention to the "STAY TOGETHER INSIDE SO YOU SURVIVE" speech the leader gave before we even entered the Queue. We had 2 players here, and 2 there spread out all over the map. No one had enough damage to be effective and some players either didn't pay attention when they were told to HOSP. or decided to just lay there and collect IXP or whatever rather then go rez and come back.

3. Of course three players just HAD to be in the cut scene instead of helping out with grenades. Which only added to our problems.

4. Same trio managed to pull everything down on top of us long before we were ready to fight. Result was we never got more grenades and couldn't even get the other portals closed.. so more and more reinforcments joined the blood bath.


Now obviously on the MESS of a trial the three guys in the cut scene were by no means the only problem. If anyone had done their assigned task inside we'd have had all the acids and grenades and would have been fine. BUT even with the mess up inside we still had a chance UNTIL out three man disco squad managed to pull every bad guy within a mile down on top of us while we were still organizing.


If your reading through this thread you may have noticed not a single person has argued that being in the CS isn't a big deal. You have seen that many leaders WILL outright tell you upfront "I see your face in Maurader's Cut Scene and i will kick you" So for goodness sake take the hint.. IT IS NOT FUNNY ANYMORE so stop being idiots and stay the heck off camera. Use that time to do something constuctive.. like OHHHH I dont know.. HELP YOUR TEAM!

I think every trial is different. If the league is blowing through it, and the cutscene-bombers helped their team get the nades/acids, and the other team is not struggling on their end, I don't really care. Still:

1. If you finish getting nades/acids, and the other team still has a ways to go to get theirs, you go and help them. If you end up in a cutscene you should be kicked.

2. If you never help, and spend the whole time waiting for the cutscene to pop, then obviously you should be kicked. This one's a little harder to figure though. When I'm running through getting nades/acids, I'm not usually checking where everyone is at, unless we start making a lot of hosp trips.

3. If the leader says no bombing beforehand, then don't be stupid. Honestly though, I rarely see leaders give out this particular command. Maybe more should.

I think the assumption is cutscene-bombers don't help, but that's not always true. Still, I can understand why people get annoyed, and there are certainly some people who seem more interested in doing that than actually helping the trial. But you note those players and you move on.

I don't reallythink getting caught in the cutscene with a league possessing 19 out of the 20 temp powers is reason to kick anyone. By the time you zone back in the door and catch up to teammates, the objectives will long have been over. Ive been caught in it twice running back from the hospital, both times i assumed the "at ease" emote and waited it out.

The more important issue to me is people not opening that damn door behind Marauder. DONT OPEN THAT DOOR, he runs nowhere and potential problem solved! WHY do people feel this insatiable need to open that door?!

People who refuse to hosp deserve an instant kick.