DOOOOM!
Or not.
EDIT: Far more interesting - "New Power Set: Time Manipulation"
@JohnP - Victory
I'm a vip 
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Yeah, the Issue 21 description dropped as well.
Time Manipulation does sound interesting.
Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
People saw stuff in the PIGG files starting with I19?, definitely with I20, alluding to a pay-model. As long as the subscription rate remains the same, and more costs on top of that do not happen, I don't see this as the beginning of the end. It *should* bring in a lot more players though; how long they stay or how much they like it, will remain to be seen.
I have no experience with pay to play games. I also can't think of any that have really thrived. (and looking at the player choices grid, free players can't post to forum. .... Ha ha?)
Mental, you are my shepherd. Lead me to peace and love. I will follow.
I've already forgotten about most of you
I will be a VIP for sure, but I think this is cool news.
Looks like toons of content coming!
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I have no experience with pay to play games. I also can't think of any that have really thrived. (and looking at the player choices grid, free players can't post to forum. .... Ha ha?)
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How many people are going to move to the VIP only server?
Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
It will always be "City of Villains Triumph" to me.
I think I like this. I may be swayed with more info, but it looks good so far, because current players keep all the benefits.
Also, that Seed of Hamidon thing is gross, and I want to destroy it already. Eew.
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"A good n00b-sauce is based on a good n00b-roux." - The Masque
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Has a game model like this lasted for 7 years? As I said, if the subscription doesn't change and these "points" aren't ridiculous, then I don't see anything really bad for anyone currently playing, but should allow for more people to jump in; basically sounds like the trial accounts are getting rid of the level cap, but keeping the other restrictions on them. |
Originally Posted by Mental_Giant
It is the Way of the Future™, but I don't like being nickel and dimed.
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I do like the monthly server transfer though. Thinking my badger would be better suited to a higher playerbase in that regard.
Not sure of the reason for another, limited, server though. With the restrictions on the other accounts, it's not like you have to be "pestered" by anyone you aren't already being pestered by.
I've already forgotten about most of you
It could work. Korean MMOs have been using this model for years. (Granted some have had more success than others.....)
I'm curious as to how many points the various things that make up the existing costume/booster packs will cost....
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Do you consider those games "thriving" though?
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I don't think our game will go away, but I hate being nickel and dimed. More players is always good, but how many of them are going to settle on Victory? The name of the freakin' *game* now has Freedom in it! We'll see what happens to that server when the floodgates open.
Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
I'm not sure how Time Manipulation will work, the concept doesn't seem like it makes sense but I guess they found a way to do it. I just hope they didn't throw a bunch of "slow" and teleport powers together.
Time manipulation and still no Eskrima?
Who do I have to *&^% around here to get more Targeted AoE recipes added?
Arc Name: Tsoo In Love
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My main worry is teaming between F2P people and VIPs. I don't really like the sound of a VIP server, since we already have established servers, and I'd rather not see a huge separation occur between the two types: especially since many of us are not always going to have a sub going.
I'm also confused by some of the segregation from the F2P and VIP stuff, like inventions. Supposedly those are limited somehow for F2P people, but that makes no sense if you have some already slotted. Same issues for people with already full server lists: if I'm F2P at the moment, are they going to randomly gray out some of my characters to access?
Anyway, I'm not super keen on this, but a monthly sub is a hard thing to keep paying for: if this is done well, it might be palatable for those stretches when I can't justify a sub. If not, it could be bad. I have a love hate relationship with MMOs as it is... I like the idea, but costs and implementation can trip me up.
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The communication stuff is stupid, too. Why are F2P people barred from communication channels, when that is the MAIN way to find teams in game? This change is not going to change that, so anyone going F2P at any time is at a huge disadvantage, unless they want to pester all their friends via tells to let them know when something is happening.
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Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory
I've always said I liked the idea of allowing us to choose which vet rewards we would get and when (aka everything 3 months you pick from a pool instead of automatically getting one). However, I am not sure how I feel about this... at this point I am thinking, well I am probably going to have more stuff, which is awesome lol.
I am curious though if you are already a "VIP" player, can you choose to become a "free" player? I would be curious to see how many would choose that option. If you don't care about the forums or SGs or itrials... I guess it would be viable.
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im still having mixed feelings about this too
im definitly gonna be VIP, but im not sure how the game communities will change with the free nonsense
the good points im seeing is that i have a friend who is a cheap *** and doesnt want to pay per month and a cousin who couldnt afford to pay per month, now both of them will be able to play whenever
the thing im annoyed with is that they are making only 1 VIP server and leaving everything else to the dogs, it should be the other way around adding a free server and limiting the current servers to VIP only
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from what i read about in the FAQ, if you are a VIP then lapse the subscription to be a free player, you will still retain all things you have purchased along with a few other perks due to the previous VIP status
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Originally Posted by Madame Pistacio
I am curious though if you are already a "VIP" player, can you choose to become a "free" player? I would be curious to see how many would choose that option. If you don't care about the forums or SGs or itrials... I guess it would be viable.
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F2P servers shouldn't be seen as going to the dogs, even though yes, you'll have different people coming in. Big whoop. I'm glad they only have one VIP server and wish they didn't have that: it makes for a lot of transfer issues, and segregates people.
Personally, I'd like to be able to play with the people I like here, even without using a sub every month. But if they all go to the VIP server, I'm SoL... and I don't like the game nearly as much. Not sure why people are so worried about F2P people... you can ignore them if you want, and there will be plenty of CoH regulars among them.
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Though part of me hopes they somehow enable cross-server teaming at some point. That would make things work just fine, depending on how they make communication work.
Guide: Tanking, Wall of Fire Style (Updated for I19!), and the Four Rules of Tanking
Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory
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There are three tiers, Free, Premium, and VIP. Since we are all currently subscribers we can never be less than Premium, and we will retain "almost everything" we purchased, but I'm not sure what isn't included.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
from what i read about in the FAQ, if you are a VIP then lapse the subscription to be a free player, you will still retain all things you have purchased along with a few other perks due to the previous VIP status
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Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
I liked the hybrid F2P thing, I hope this change doesn't make the userbase flip out *too* badly.
We need more information.
It appears for Paragon Points.. they are only purchasable.
Hope nobody really quits before this happens.. FREEdom players will be glorified trial accounts, unable to communicate with people unless if they all arrange at X amount of time to all hook-up with one another. I do not think that is the proper choice, they should atleast have access to Broadcast.
Cross-Server teaming would be cool, I agree. But from what I've read by redname posts .. we gain "Global Server Slots" , so does that mean I could play HERO and VILLAIN on all servers.. but that makes no sense since we get free transfer tokens. Hmm...
@War-Nugget
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Originally Posted by Wavicle
CoH players are stupid and incompetent compared to WoW players.
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first question...
Where will we respec now?
second question:
When do we get to see the breakdown of Time manipulation? And how many grav/times will we see on launch day?
Third question:
WHY DO WE NOT HAVE 20.5 YET?!
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
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^Professional Katana/regen build thread
I WANT DEVOURING EARTH PETS...
Do you see those Igneous in the pictures?
Or are they DE?
THEY LOOK FLIPPING COOL!
@War-Nugget
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Originally Posted by Wavicle
CoH players are stupid and incompetent compared to WoW players.
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im guessing i20.5 will be out within the next week or so since its in open beta on the test server already
can also tell that i21 closed beta is starting because theres an 1800 MB patch to beta server lol
was it just me, or did anyone else think "Tron?" when they saw this one?
http://www.cityofheroes.com/images/i..._path_aura.jpg
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
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^Professional Katana/regen build thread
FREEDOM!
It had to happen eventually, but damn...
EDIT: ZOMG Paragon Points?! NOOOOOoooooo!
You did it, Jack, you finally did it! What a world, what a world, what a world!
DOUBLE EDIT: Monthly Story Arcs? We're just copying that other game... the Student has truly become the Master!
Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."