barrier destiny incarnate in recluse victory
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Antigonus,
Posted on: 2011-06-17 11:45 in Everything about PvP
Lol damn them for using powers they worked hard to get!!!! i for one think stalkers need hide removed in pvp cuz teh AS takes to much hp away LMFAO
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your completly missing the point im trying to make, the barrier incarnate is to powerful in pvp zones, and anyone who uses it regardless of how good your toon is or not in pvp can never be touched until the barrier wares off, stalkers arnt so bad in pvp if you have good enough perception but barrier cant be penitrated until it wares off
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Originally Posted by Lone_mutant_
Lol damn them for using powers they worked hard to get!!!! i for one think stalkers need hide removed in pvp cuz teh AS takes to much hp away LMFAO
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Originally Posted by Lone_mutant_
Lol damn them for using powers they worked hard to get!!!! i for one think stalkers need hide removed in pvp cuz teh AS takes to much hp away LMFAO
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wats as? will that make shraks do mor damag?
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You do realize that not just is Barrier not perma (unless you have the t4, then a whole 5% def/res is perma) but it scales down massively after 10 seconds, and its subject to DR...|
Originally Posted by PoisonHeart
your completly missing the point im trying to make, the barrier incarnate is to powerful in pvp zones, and anyone who uses it regardless of how good your toon is or not in pvp can never be touched until the barrier wares off, stalkers arnt so bad in pvp if you have good enough perception but barrier cant be penitrated until it wares off
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So yea, lol barrier in PvP.
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Originally Posted by Arbegla
So yea, lol barrier in PvP.
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hey hey, arb. f u.
hay you guys i dont want any trash talking on this thread im simply saying that barrier is too powerful in pvp zones even with the fadding effect, anyone who goes to recluse victory or who faught a oponent spamming tier4 barrier knows how frustrating it is, i would really like some reassuring that soon in future patches that maybe the barrier incarnate will fade faster in pvp zones or have a slower recharge, anything to fix this problem
Barrier isn't nearly as good as you think, and my characters never have a problem with it. If we assume t4, for 10 seconds (3 of which is the animation) they're using a power like Moment of Glory, except less of a duration, then after for 20 seconds they have +30% def and +30% res, which is DRed. It's more like shadow meld, but not as long. After that, it's nothing.
Build for more accuracy and +tohit.
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what is your definition of spamming? because none of the incarnate powers are spammable in any way or form.
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Originally Posted by PoisonHeart
hay you guys i dont want any trash talking on this thread im simply saying that barrier is too powerful in pvp zones even with the fadding effect, anyone who goes to recluse victory or who faught a oponent spamming tier4 barrier knows how frustrating it is, i would really like some reassuring that soon in future patches that maybe the barrier incarnate will fade faster in pvp zones or have a slower recharge, anything to fix this problem
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the moment it goes away you can use it again, and even when its faded to +30def and +30res its still tough to hit the guy, you would HAVE to use build up in order to hit him, and in recluse victory most battles last under a minute until 1 is low on health and runs away, how would you feel fighting a scrapper with super reflexis but also with enough resistance as a invulnerable scrapper, even if you were able to get through the high defence your only giving 5 hits of damage.|
Originally Posted by Mr. DJ
what is your definition of spamming? because none of the incarnate powers are spammable in any way or form.
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how can you take down a tank that uses barrier over and over again? his high resistance would make it difficult to kill fast but when you give him a massive amount of defence, you cant kill him, and when barrier is low to its +5def/res your slowly making progress, then bam! once he is low on hits, he uses barrier all over again and while he is healing your stuck waiting for him to go back down to +5def/res and the only way your able to survive that is by using barrier yourself
A 3 step approach is needed.
1) Quit fiteklubbing
2) Get a team
3) LOLbarrier
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Srsly?? i cut through barrier like butter...
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Originally Posted by PoisonHeart
your completly missing the point im trying to make, the barrier incarnate is to powerful in pvp zones, and anyone who uses it regardless of how good your toon is or not in pvp can never be touched until the barrier wares off, stalkers arnt so bad in pvp if you have good enough perception but barrier cant be penitrated until it wares off
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QQ moar plz.
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Originally Posted by PoisonHeart
the moment it goes away you can use it again, and even when its faded to +30def and +30res its still tough to hit the guy, you would HAVE to use build up in order to hit him, and in recluse victory most battles last under a minute until 1 is low on health and runs away, how would you feel fighting a scrapper with super reflexis but also with enough resistance as a invulnerable scrapper, even if you were able to get through the high defence your only giving 5 hits of damage.
how can you take down a tank that uses barrier over and over again? his high resistance would make it difficult to kill fast but when you give him a massive amount of defence, you cant kill him, and when barrier is low to its +5def/res your slowly making progress, then bam! once he is low on hits, he uses barrier all over again and while he is healing your stuck waiting for him to go back down to +5def/res and the only way your able to survive that is by using barrier yourself |
Yup this is what we need. MORE CRYING FOR NERF'S. Barrier isnt hard to hit through. It may be annoying on certain builds but their isnt a need for it to be nerfed either. Their are more serious issues in pvp atm than a I can't hit through barrier so it's OP post.
What is hilarious is even with powers like Rebirth and Barrier, people are still getting farmed horribly.
I don't see the problem with the new incarnate powers other than the fact I'm just too lazy to get them.
Only thing weird about barrier is that it gives 50% damage reduction. Baddies still get killeed in the long animation though.
Barrier isn't that great. I build for the +toHit in all of my builds so.. wait 10 secs then win. DR rocks barrier
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Originally Posted by PoisonHeart
it seems every time i go to RV everyone is spamming either tier3 or tier4 barrier incarnate and its a real cheap move to use to your advantage, i worked hard to build my pvp toon but now it can get beat by anyone spamming barrier over and over again, the unfair advantage needs to be changed in pvp zones
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its not unfair. go get barrier or rebirth and use it yourself. the end
@KoolVirus
It's hilarious when someone cries nerf about a power and people explain that it's not a big deal for reasons taken out of context. Barrier is a big deal, which is evident in how many people are rocking it.
By itself, it's no biggie. Combined with all the other escape powers it's a part of a chain of "oh crap" powers that people use as crutches so that they can play stupidly for short periods of time before running back into the base. In the unlikely scenario that a team showed up and staggered their usage of barrier, they could have it up most of the time.
Incarnate buffs seem like the culmination of the development team's long dedication to making this game easy for soloists. Which means propping up bad players in pvp. My solution is not to nerf it, just get rid of the bases. Eliminate safe zones so that whack-a-mole players can't use it indiscriminately and then just hop back to safety when it wears out. Get on it Posi.
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Originally Posted by HydroPonics
Yup this is what we need. MORE CRYING FOR NERF'S. Barrier isnt hard to hit through. It may be annoying on certain builds but their isnt a need for it to be nerfed either. Their are more serious issues in pvp atm than a I can't hit through barrier so it's OP post.
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the main reason i dont pvp is because i dont like it, but a lot of the reason i dont like it is because of all the retarded nonsense you have to deal with in pvp zones
heal decay and travel suppression are more annoying than barrier usage, and as mentioned its like MoG, 10 sec of semi invulnerability, then after that DR drivies it so hard into the ground the 30 sec of +30% is more like +10 due to DR, and after that its basically negligible
for SR toons this is the only thing that has even allowed them to go into a pvp zone again, so be thankful there are poeple to fight instead of walking into ghost towns
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Originally Posted by PoisonHeart
how can you take down a tank that uses barrier over and over again? |
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Stop hating on Barrier he just got back in game, and he was never OP unless you count the amount of rage he could squeeze out of fake divine.
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Come back when you find a league with the discipline to cover everyone with stacked t4 Barrier in succession.
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Pretty sure players capable of IR gathers and Veng gathers can do the same for Barrier. But hey, feel free to sign a team for any of the upcoming leagues though.
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it seems every time i go to RV everyone is spamming either tier3 or tier4 barrier incarnate and its a real cheap move to use to your advantage, i worked hard to build my pvp toon but now it can get beat by anyone spamming barrier over and over again, the unfair advantage needs to be changed in pvp zones