Drops are making me sad!


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Encyclopedias and dictionaries have been wrong. That doesn't mean you can't use them as a source ever again.
Just to illustrate, I give you dord


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I love watching Rx10 dig all these holes all over the place for himself. Then sometimes he even climbs out of one hole and goes back into another hole and starts digging away again. It's like he thinks if he digs hard enough, he'll prove everyone he's right - except he's digging in an infinite-manure pile.



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Just to illustrate, I give you dord
I may have to make a density-controlling character called "Lord Dord" now.


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I may have to make a density-controlling character called "Lord Dord" now.
One does not simply walk into Mordord...


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One does not simply walk into Mordord...
/win


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Is this guy trolling us?
That's my bet..


 

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Just to illustrate, I give you dord
Wow.. That's heavy.


 

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Purple drops are random. Proximity, damage, killing blow, etc. have nothing to do with it. Although, they jury is still out IMO on how pets affect the drop rate.

The key to getting purples is killing lots of mobs, so running solo, with bosses on, at +0x8 is the best methodology. ( you can do -1x8 for speed, but then you lose out on level 50 orange recipes )

The comment about Tankers getting all the drops.... definitely deserves a facepalm. I dont think my INV/SS has ever gotten a purple drop.


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I dont think my INV/SS has ever gotten a purple drop.


Sucks to be you!

I don't think I've found anything that affects the drop rate in any way other than "bump the multiplier difficulty so there are more enemies to kill", thus giving you more chances.

Other than that, random means random.



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Is this guy trolling us?
My guess as well.

And I'll add the paragonwiki is one of the most relaible and tested sources of information about this game.


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Just to illustrate, I give you dord
Hey, thanks for posting that -- that's one I didn't know. I love finding out that kind of stuff.


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Is this guy trolling us?
If he was, I doubt he would have given up so easily.


 

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Is this guy trolling us?
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That's my bet..
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My guess as well.
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If he was, I doubt he would have given up so easily.
The scary thing is: he's not. He legitimately thinks this way. He even occasionally goes out of his way to explain the details of why he's right, which is sometimes hysterical because his foundation knowledge of City is totally skewed and oftentimes completely wrong. His foundation knowledge is his own subjective "data" (which is colored by his incorrect suppositions about the game), instead of developer comments, hundreds of hours of testing, and intimate knowledge of the numbers (even before there were Real Numbers).


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The scary thing is: he's not. He legitimately thinks this way. He even occasionally goes out of his way to explain the details of why he's right, which is sometimes hysterical because his foundation knowledge of City is totally skewed and oftentimes completely wrong. His foundation knowledge is his own subjective "data" (which is colored by his incorrect suppositions about the game), instead of developer comments, hundreds of hours of testing, and intimate knowledge of the numbers (even before there were Real Numbers).
That's just sad.


 

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The scary thing is: he's not. He legitimately thinks this way. He even occasionally goes out of his way to explain the details of why he's right, which is sometimes hysterical because his foundation knowledge of City is totally skewed and oftentimes completely wrong. His foundation knowledge is his own subjective "data" (which is colored by his incorrect suppositions about the game), instead of developer comments, hundreds of hours of testing, and intimate knowledge of the numbers (even before there were Real Numbers).
I have seen it frequently.

"I'm right!"

"Really? Prove it."

"Didn't you just see where I SAID I was right? That proves I am!"


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Resident is spreading a lot of misinformation.
If you want purple drops, your best way to do it is to farm -1/x8 maps at level 50 by yourself!
This is pretty much it. It sucks because not all builds are equipped to play this way. I'm sitting on so many right now I'm thinking of giving some away since I don't have a personal base for storage space.

My advice is if your are looking for purples to try sets that deal a lot of AoE damage. My favorites are Fire/Dark or Fire/Rad (they can toggle herd better IMO) Corruptor. Some players have success with Fire/Kintrollers but I enjoy the Corruptors more.


Who do I have to *&^% around here to get more Targeted AoE recipes added?

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Everyone know the Tank Archetype get the most drops of all the types. This is because of their "Death Dealing" powers. I call it the front line bonus...but you'll never read this in the wiki
I see your Tank and raise you my Fire/Dark Corruptor. 4 Purples in the last month and I don't even play more than 3 hours a week anymore if that.


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I'm sitting on so many right now I'm thinking of giving some away since I don't have a personal base for storage space.
Sell a couple, convert the inf to prestige, and build a base to store the rest :-)


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Sell a couple, convert the inf to prestige, and build a base to store the rest :-)
I would if I weren't horrible at base building. I tried it a couple of times, I just find it too confusing even with help from a few forum threads.. Someone should write a base building for dummies book or do a video tutorial.


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Been a long time since I've done that kind of math now, but I'll give it my best.
I'm fair certain that the odds of a purple drop for a minion are 0.02%, or one in five thousand.
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Can anyone confirm that one in five thousand figure?
Alright, I've got what I believe to be an accurate figure that comes from testing with a sufficiently large sample size that takes LTs and bosses into account. This makes for a much more applicable calculation for anyone who happens to be interested in this. Considering average spawns that include bosses, the estimate is 1 purple drop per 3700 defeats.

Let's run the same calculations again.

After 3700 defeats, it's 63% likely that you've gotten a drop. Note that this is the same as the 5000 defeats at 1/5000 odds calculation. This is not a coincidence.

To be likely (50%) that you've gotten at least one drop, you only need to defeat 2565 enemies.

To be 90% likely that you've gotten at least one drop, you will need to defeat 8520 enemies.

Remember that all of this is by yourself. Multiply by 8 if you're going to be with a full team all the time.


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I have seen it frequently.

"I'm right!"

"Really? Prove it."

"Didn't you just see where I SAID I was right? That proves I am!"
Conversely we see people saying the exact opposite on a regular basis:

"You're wrong!

"Really? Prove it!"

"You're wrong because I say you're wrong!"

See: discussions regarding the actual randomness of the RNG, especially re Incarnate trials, see past discussions of whether or not it was a good idea to bother taking Stamina.


 

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I would if I weren't horrible at base building. I tried it a couple of times, I just find it too confusing even with help from a few forum threads.. Someone should write a base building for dummies book or do a video tutorial.
It is a ridiculously clunky and unintuitive system.

If you like, if you get a character ready with a bunch of prestige and let me know when you're online, I could roll a throw-away character up on that server and make you a very plain but functional base with some storage.


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It is a ridiculously clunky and unintuitive system.

If you like, if you get a character ready with a bunch of prestige and let me know when you're online, I could roll a throw-away character up on that server and make you a very plain but functional base with some storage.
I appreciate the help!


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"You're wrong because all the facts that the playerbase has accumulated and the devs have released say you're wrong!"
Fix'd for ya.