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Originally Posted by Cynical_Gamer
There's a hotel chain called Super 8?
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Originally Posted by Dark One
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When you say the films of your youth I hope you mean movies other than Star Trek, because there has only been 1 decent Star Trek movie ever made and that was "The Wrath of Khan" Every other Star Trek movie before and after belongs in the same steaming pile of excrement as "Highlander 2".
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Originally Posted by Ironik
I have enormous fond memories of the films of my youth, especially those of the late 70s and early 80s, and Lucas and Spielberg have done more than enough to destroy those memories without having to endure Abrams' hamfistedly manhandling them into gooey stupid paste.
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I disagree, only the odd numbered ones belong in that pile. 2, 4, 6, 8 and even 10 (J.J. Abrams Star trek) were all great Star Trek movies. |
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
When you say the films of your youth I hope you mean movies other than Star Trek, because there has only been 1 decent Star Trek movie ever made and that was "The Wrath of Khan" Every other Star Trek movie before and after belongs in the same steaming pile of excrement as "Highlander 2".
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10 was actually Nemesis, Abrams' was 11. I agree, but I wouldn't say 3, 7 or 9 belong in the excrement pile. None of the TNG films were that bad. At any rate, I can find enjoyment in any of the Star Trek films. The Undiscovered Country and First Contact are my personal favorites. Wrath of Khan is very good but I believe those two are the superior films.
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Originally Posted by Mystic_Fortune
I disagree, only the odd numbered ones belong in that pile. 2, 4, 6, 8 and even 10 (J.J. Abrams Star trek) were all great Star Trek movies.
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While I totally agree with your overall sentiment, I have not shared your experience at all in terms of this movie. I have seen almost NO advertising for it at all outside of trailers in front of other movies I have seen, and an occasional TV promo. I guess we must just watch totally different things that I haven't gotten inundated.|
Originally Posted by Ice_Wall
Honestly, I haven't seen this movie, but with the number of Ads for it I've seen on Hulu and TV and in theatres, it's probably already killed a cumulative total of 2 hours of my life...
To say nothing of the fact that the stupid preview is on my Iron Man 2 DVD and even an "in game" preview came with Portal 2, where I can play a 2 minute mini game of the teaser trailer... Sometimes I wonder if studio execs get a finished movie, realize it's crud and just toss millions into advertising hoping to recoup their investment in the first week or two before word gets around the the movie is horrible. It'd been a long time since I've gotten this fed up with movie ads, but I'm so ready for this movie to come out so I can never see another trailer for it. And no I won't watch it, I never thought it looked good and after seeing so many commercials for it, I'm already sick of it. |
I don't remember what movie it was, but it was one that I was actively excited about going to see like a year ago. And I got so annoyed by the over-saturation of advertisting that I assumed (like another poster above) that the movie must be crap. I almost didn't see the thing based on how annoyed I was. But, I saw it anyway and enjoyed it.
In the present case, I REALLY liked Super 8. To me, it was Goonies for a new age. It was also about the characters in the film, more than it was some generic monster movie. Some bits were quite predictable, and there were a few issues I had with the number of unrealistic explosions... but all in all, I really like it. Probably one of the best movies I have seen this year. Also, the monster is shown a good deal toward the last third of the movie... but it is given a LOT of lead up and anticipation for what this thing is gonna be throughout the first 2/3.
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Originally Posted by Cynical_Gamer
There's a hotel chain called Super 8?
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Originally Posted by Not_Rhino
None of the TNG films were that bad.
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wow, the amount of nerd rage for being confronted with a leisure time activity whilst pursuing other leisure time activities is just mind boggling. i mean if the advertising really bugs you that much, why don't you just rant about the folks doing the advertising? or better yet, rant at your favorite leisure time activity manufacturer/retailer for exposing you to said advertising. or, and i know this sounds crazy, you just ignore it, like the multitudes of advertising we are exposed to every day and we have all learned to tune out.............
ya know what? forget that logic stuff, DOWN WITH SUPER 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT KILLS BABIES AND KICKS PUPPIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
When you say the films of your youth I hope you mean movies other than Star Trek, because there has only been 1 decent Star Trek movie ever made and that was "The Wrath of Khan" Every other Star Trek movie before and after belongs in the same steaming pile of excrement as "Highlander 2".
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I realize The Goonies is a touchstone for a certain generation, but I was too old for it. I tried twice but couldn't watch it. I'm not the target audience.
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For certain personal and professional reasons, I'm glad you like Undiscovered. The first draft of the script was better, though. None of that stupid Shakespeare junk Bennet added.|
Originally Posted by Not_Rhino
10 was actually Nemesis, Abrams' was 11. I agree, but I wouldn't say 3, 7 or 9 belong in the excrement pile. None of the TNG films were that bad. At any rate, I can find enjoyment in any of the Star Trek films. The Undiscovered Country and First Contact are my personal favorites. Wrath of Khan is very good but I believe those two are the superior films.
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A friend of mine pointed out that Picard never left the glowy barber pole in the first TNG flick. Once you accept that, every other incongruous moment in the rest of the movies makes sense, and all the inconsistency goes away (such as the bizarre addition of a Borg Queen) because all of the TNG films are occurring in Picard's imagination inside that Aurora Galactialis. (What the hell was that thing called? Besides "plot device".)
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I thought The Voyage Home was horrible. I'd almost rather watch all of the TNG movies and ST5 than watch that damn preachy save-the-whales schlockfest.
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Originally Posted by Mystic_Fortune
I disagree, only the odd numbered ones belong in that pile. 2, 4, 6, 8 and even 10 (J.J. Abrams Star trek) were all great Star Trek movies.
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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I want to say, "We'll leave the Monster on for ya...", but I think that's a riff on the Motel 6 phrase.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
The big bad Super 8 monster is gonna get you with it's free continental breakfasts and free high speed wireless internet access.
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I thought it was okay, but kinda forgettable. I liked that it was lacking in any major stars. I think it was well made, I just think that it was missing something to make it a great movie. I would give it like an 83ish score.
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Originally Posted by CommunistPenguin
I liked that it was lacking in any major stars.
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
I don't know if it is true, but a friend of mine told me it was actually 2 movie scripts that Spielberg smooshed together into 1 movie. One being a "Lean On Me" type coming of age flick around the kids making super-8 movies, the other being an alien action thing. I suspect I, and a lot of other folks, are gonna make this one a "wait till video" one due to all the other good flicks out right now, or coming up soon. Too bad too cuz I really liked the Goonies. And Ironik you are only 2 years older than me. Goonies was a great flick at any age! It made all kids "play time" become a real adventure. You just can't beat that.
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Super 8 was, no kidding, the best movie I've seen all year.
But I thought X-Men: First Class was crap, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Also, Super 8 edged out Rango from the #1 spot, albeit by a wide margin.
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Wasn't ST5 the Kirk/Spock/Bones bromance one? That's my favorite Star Trek movie, or at least my favorite that features the original cast. >_>;
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
I'd almost rather watch all of the TNG movies and ST5 than watch that damn preachy save-the-whales schlockfest.
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Unless I'm mistaken, ST5 was the one where they get hijacked by a crazy vulcan and search for God at the center of the universe. I don't recall any bromance.
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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Wasn't ST5 the Kirk/Spock/Bones bromance one? That's my favorite Star Trek movie, or at least my favorite that features the original cast. >_>;
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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No offense intended but Ironiks 2 years older than me as well and I agree with his opinion about the Goonies. Nothing wrong with it but I was to old to enjoy it. Maybe if I was 10 years younger when it came out I'd have liked it.
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Originally Posted by Le Blanc
And Ironik you are only 2 years older than me. Goonies was a great flick at any age! It made all kids "play time" become a real adventure. You just can't beat that.
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Unless I'm mistaken, ST5 was the one where they get hijacked by a crazy vulcan and search for God at the center of the universe. I don't recall any bromance.
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.. pretty much the only scene worth watching in the movie.
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Ah, the camping scene. Yes, that is a redeeming scene. And Shatner looks younger there to me than he did in 2-4.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpxRS8GORmk
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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When I had my birthday senior year, my best friend remarked, "You aren't 17 going on 18, you're 17 going on 40." Which was true. I've always felt like I was in my 40s. So by the time I was 20, you can imagine how little tolerance I had for kids' action flicks.
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Originally Posted by Le Blanc
. And Ironik you are only 2 years older than me. Goonies was a great flick at any age! It made all kids "play time" become a real adventure. You just can't beat that.
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I've always felt like an old man, but I've always enjoyed various "kids" movies, too. |
Originally Posted by Ironik
When I had my birthday senior year, my best friend remarked, "You aren't 17 going on 18, you're 17 going on 40." Which was true. I've always felt like I was in my 40s. So by the time I was 20, you can imagine how little tolerance I had for kids' action flicks.
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
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And there you'll always be
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
I've always felt like an old man, but I've always enjoyed various "kids" movies, too.
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In my 20's, I went out with more than one woman (also in their 20's) who said, "You know, you seem really old." This was always quickly followed by an embarassed look and something to the effect of, "Um, but not in a bad way."
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The only kids movies I can really get into are the ones that also have something for adults, as if the filmmakers have thrown in a couple things for the grown-ups who have to watch these things over and over. I like half of what Pixar does for this very reason, and I think the best Disney animated film ever made is The Emperor's New Groove.|
Originally Posted by Tenzhi
I've always felt like an old man, but I've always enjoyed various "kids" movies, too.
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But when I go back and try to rewatch stuff I loved in my youth, like Speed Racer or Yamato, I just can't get into that mindset because there's nothing adult there to hang my interest on. Whereas something like the Adam West Batman series, I loved it just as much when I saw it as an adult, because I finally got the jokes.
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I just looked at Super 8's B.O. over the weekend. Worldwide $46 million. I'd be willing to bet that's not even most of the advertising budget. Ouch.
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The only kids movies I can really get into are the ones that also have something for adults, as if the filmmakers have thrown in a couple things for the grown-ups who have to watch these things over and over. I like half of what Pixar does for this very reason, and I think the best Disney animated film ever made is The Emperor's New Groove.
But when I go back and try to rewatch stuff I loved in my youth, like Speed Racer or Yamato, I just can't get into that mindset because there's nothing adult there to hang my interest on. Whereas something like the Adam West Batman series, I loved it just as much when I saw it as an adult, because I finally got the jokes. |
That's why the original cartoons like Looney Tunes are timeless. They were made to entertain adults as well as kids, and as we grow up we start appreciating the deeper meaning of the comedy.
After seeing the movie I think the promotions of Super 8 are kind off the mark. I thought this movie was going to be a monster movie in line with Cloverfield, but surprisingly it wasn't...it was better. The movie felt like a Love Letter to 80's kid adventure films like Monster Squad and Goonies. I wish I knew, I would have taken my nieces to it but unfortunately the advertising for the film weren't promoted to convey it.