Scrapper Attack Idea - Gun + Sword

There's already a few scrapper powersets with a mix of ranged and melee - KM, Claws, Spines. Here's an idea I think would work. Sword in one hand, pistol (or maybe even a wrist-mounted crossbow, what with power customization) in the other. Pure lethal damage, but is made less harsh by the DoTs and -def it applies to the enemy.

The set deals damage through stacking DoTs and the -def, rather than having an actual build up. There is one power that gives a good amount of -def and -res to the enemy, but it's a single target attack, in the vein of Follow Up.

1: Quick Slice (Minor melee ST lethal damage, 4s recharge, foe lethal DoT)
Make a quick attack with your sword, dealing lethal damage and causing your enemy to bleed.

1: Quick Shot (Moderate ranged ST lethal damage, 40 feet, 6s recharge, foe -def) With your ranged weapon, you snap off a quick shot at your enemy, dealing lethal damage and reducing your foe's defense to further attacks.

2: Low Cut (Moderate melee ST lethal damage, 8s recharge, foe lethal DoT, -speed)
You slice your blade low across your enemy, hampering their ability to move.

4: Blade Arc (Minor melee cone lethal damage, 8s recharge, foe lethal DoT)
A cut across a group of enemies, causing them to bleed for additional damage over time.

6: Armor Breaker (Minor melee ST lethal damage, 12s recharge, foe -def, -res)
You cut away an enemy's defenses with your blade, opening them up to further attacks by you and your allies.

8: Focused Shot (High ranged ST lethal damage, 40 feet, 10s recharge, foe -def, KD)
You aim your weapon and fire a single powerful shot at them. The force of the impact has a chance to knock them off their feet.

12: Confront (Ranged ST taunt, 3s recharge)
Challenges a foe to attack you.

18: Rapid Fire (Moderate ranged cone lethal damage, 40 feet, 45 degree arc, 12s recharge, foe -def)
You fire off a series of shots at a group of enemies in front of you.

26: Dual Strike (High melee ST lethal damage, 10s recharge, foe -def, lethal DoT)
You attack with both your weapons at once, reducing the target's defense with your ranged weapon and causing them to bleed with your blade.

32: All-Out Attack (Special, see below. 60s recharge, foe -def, KD, lethal DoT)
Summoning your inner focus, you engage every enemy around you in a ferocious all-out assault. Enemies in melee range will be hit with the brunt of your attack, while those farther out will take damage from only your ranged weapon. Those unfortunate enough to survive the assault will find themselves on the ground and bleeding out.



For All-Out Attack, I was thinking having it be two AoE attacks fired off on the same tick or within a very short time of each other. The first is the melee attack, dealing high damage, DoTs and a 100% KD chance. The second is the ranged attack, dealing high damage, -def and a 50% KD chance. IT might be difficult to implement, but that's the fun of it - seeing how you can make things work well.

If you can't have two different "ranges" in one attack, here's how it could work. The power would do the actual melee attack (high melee damage, 100% KD, lethal DoT), and then summon a psuedopet at the casters' feet. The psuedopet would then deliver the ranged portion (high ranged damage, -def) and vanish.

Opinions, thoughts?

I'm totally with you on the gun+sword thing, but I think it might work better as a Dual Pistols Blaster with Katana power proliferation to the Blaster secondary. I don't think they could proliferate Dual Blades to Blasters because you probably wouldn't be in melee enough to generate the combos. I like the idea VERY much.

I would love if they release this combo powerset for melee archetypes.
Also, they could introduce Spark Blade in the game, and develop more W.I.S.D.O.M. histories and lore.

Eh, redraw is a fact of life with weapons. You can make a DP/TA/Mace Corruptor! I'd put up with it for DP/Katana.

To me, a ranged weapon should never be a part of a melee set regardless of the fact that melee sets have ranged powers in them already. Ranged weapons are for ranged powersets, and melee weapons for melee powersets. Aside from ridiculousness, what seperates the spirit of this suggestion from, say, Archery Melee?

I am also dubious of the suggestion to instead create a Katana 'Manipulation'-styled set for Blasters... as again it crosses that above barrier. There is just something about the aesthetics of it that I don't like.

Gun + Sword would make a better Assault set, and I would totally /sign on that.

But absolutely /unsigned for a Scrapper set. You're not getting a variety of ranged attacks in a melee AT where other sets are lucky to get one, even if you do sacrifice Build Up to achieve it.

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Originally Posted by BrandX The pistol would deliver a few ranged abilities. Seeing as how Spines/Claws/Kinetic have the same thing, I don't see why it wouldn't be a problem.

Claws and Kinetic Melee each have one ranged attack, and Spines has one ranged attack and a wide-ish PBAoE power. They don't all have 3 ranged attacks doing moderate to high damage.

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Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

What I'd lobby for is a Dual Pistols epic for Scrappers, myself. This way, you don't have to kludge in with another unrelated weapon and you don't have to worry about set balance or including a range weapon as a Scrapper primary.

There are already enough pistol attacks in the game to cobble together an Epic with nothing new, if we draw from player Dual Pistols and Malta Gunslinger pistol attacks. And if we build it in the framework of, say, Mace Mastery, we could get:

1. Single Shot
2. Dual Wield
3. Gunslinger Incendiary Round
4. Suppressive Fire
5. Gunslinger Cryo Round

Some stats may need to be adjusted here and there, but I'd take that set in a heartbeat, and I'd never ask for a combo gun/sword set again, when I can make my own.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I'm disappointed that this thread is not about this--> http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/i...KucerSword.jpg

I would certainly make a Sword / Pistol Scrapper if this set were made available. Great idea!