Setting the record straight.

Lately I've been seeing threads all over the place with topics like "How do I get a VR incarnate salvage?" or "Which AT can get VR easily?" etc.... This is driving me nuts. People are constantly looking to get the best "participation" score in the incarnate trials or trying to find out how to cheat the system. Constant threads and questions asking the same thing. People complaining "I did eleventy-billion trials and didn't get a single very rare component! Hax!!!1!"
So, I'm going to clarify this once again, as has been done several times already.

Random number generator is random!

There's a key word in there: RANDOM!

Here, I'll spell it out for you!

R.A.N.D.O.M.

Dictionary definition of random:
–adjective
1. proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern: the random selection of numbers.

That is what random means. It means that even if I have a 50/50 chance of getting a very rare component or nothing, I could run an infinite number of trials and get nothing. Even though it's a 50% chance, it's chosen at random. Likewise, I could do 100 trials, and get a very rare every time. Once again, it is chosen at random.

Baryonyx made a post concerning Incarnate rewards. Here are a few key points presented in that thread.

So what you're saying is, my em/sd scrapper has a better chance than my MM, right?

Reminds me of a post I saw earlier in regards to random number generators and reward drops.

Way too long, stopped a third of the way through; the same thing was getting repeated too often.

Yeah, god forbid people want to actually attain various rewards when they're in there giving all they've got: how unreasonable of them. OMG stop it now!

[sigh] People want the good stuff. Not just stuff, but the good stuff. I am sorry the OP thinks they shouldn't WANT the good stuff, but they do. He's probably one of those people who gets three purples every ITF he runs, while everyone else gets a stack of Plasmatic Tasers. "OMG stop complaining you losers," as he trots off with three Hecatombs.

I'd just bet

Yes, because the devs could *never* make mistakes that could result in the appearance of not so random results. Nope, they certainly didn't mess up on the uncommon drop rates at i20 release.

Sorry but you don't know any better than anyone else that's doing the speculation so please, spare us the pointless lecturing.

*rollseyes*

So what archetype do I need to roll to get a VR drop?

pl meh?

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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike English does not borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, hits them over the head, and rifles through their pockets for loose grammar.

Technically it's pseudo-random...

*hides*

>_>

The RNG... is hax.

<_<

I'm always working hard, and so its never me.

I think random is the only "possible" fair way.
Everyone has the same chance.... Seems fair by that definition.....
Personal relationships can't change your chances. No sucking up to the RNG and having laziness overlooked.
So no favoritism.... Seems fair by that definition.
So then, by WHAT definition is random NOT fair?
This comes down to the magic "me" then.

Get it straight people, fair and what's best for you are NOT one and the same.

One last time. What could be MORE fair than random?

If it did reward you based on participation amount, THAT would be unfair. Then only certain builds/powersets could get the Very Rares. "Your playing your defender? Sorry, but you didn't do as much damage as that Scrapper over there. Here, you get stuck with uncommons for an eternity! Have fun!"

Yeah, sounds totally fair... /sarcasm.

The way it is now, it's a much better method of rewarding. Everyone has the same chances for all the tables. If you simply participated at all with your character, you get a shot at that random roll. Everyone does if they simply were active. Seems pretty fair to me.

But right now we're going a little off-topic. The point is, this is how the system works. It has been explained to us numerous times. The point of this post is to make people realize that it is random, and that no build, character, AT, powerset or anything is going to give you a better chance at the reward rolls. People keep asking these silly questions and they don't realize that no matter what they are playing, they have the same chances as everyone else.

Here's the thing, if the participation system only involved individual performance qualifier in order to avoid the 10 thread reward and everything else is up to the RNG, then fine. I have no qualms with that. However, then they decided to add another portion into the participation system, league performance, whose influence is now working against the randomness of the trial end reward. How else can you explain 2 people duoing a trial only to get thread, commons or whatever it was?

From Baryonyx:
If your league does well, and you are a factor in that success, this will only increase your opportunity to earn a Very Rare component.


Isn't it possible that this could be have some effect in influence the end reward random rolls?

Now if the criteria were known to the players then we'd have a truly even playing field and let the randomness nature of the system take over. However, the devs will never let us in on the secret because it will allow too many people to game the system.