You could do it.
It wouldn't be quite as fast though.
I imagine Ice/SS would farm pretty well.
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If i have farmed with my FM?SR brute you can do it on a ICE.... as for the FA heal well you get Hoarfrost
I dont really know what to say
Electric Armour and the Soft cap
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Ice enemies would slow you down.. cold ress is harder to get.
You need to speed up your recharge..?
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That's why he was suggesting using an Ice tank. Ice gets 90% resistance to Cold almost by accident, and they are effectively immune to slows with 95% slow resistance.
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Originally Posted by Liz Bathory
Ice enemies would slow you down.. cold ress is harder to get.
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You should roll an ice/ regardless. It's the only non buff ice armor in the game. You get slow aura, damage aura, heal and +end, it's survivability and aggro magnet. SS is the obvious secondary for farming.
But, ice isn't really very farmy. It's more teamy. The tank everyone loves to have around.
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I have my own ice farm for my ice/ele tank, but dont ask me what the ID is.. lol. but it works, +4x8 np. Its awesome. 
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Ice armor has no cold defense, so ALL of the debuffs that come at you would hit, as you don't have any inherent positional defense. So even with their slow and -rech resistance, they would have a large amount of debuffs on them.
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Originally Posted by Pyro_Master_NA
Ice armor has no cold defense, so ALL of the debuffs that come at you would hit, as you don't have any inherent positional defense. So even with their slow and -rech resistance, they would have a large amount of debuffs on them.
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Besides, almost all of the Ice attacks in the game are paired with either smashing or lethal, which means your S/L defense will give you defense to them. And if you're creating a farm all you have to do is make sure not too many of the critters have attacks that aren't part smashing or lethal. Just make all the critters' primary Ice Blast and you're good.
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Ice Armor's slow res is 100%, not 95% ; last I checked, anyway. No matter how many slows are on you, they didn't have any effect.
Ice/Fire is a wicked farmer versus the right enemies, which is most in my opinion. you do get the occasional glass jaw shot, but if fighting custom cold baddies should not be a problem.
YMMV---IMO
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Not just does ice armor have capped slow resistance (100%, but capped is 95%) but they have 90% cold resistance as well, and energy absorption will softcap you to basically every damage type on just SOs. you throw some IOs into the mix, and you can have upwards of 55% defense to everything, capped cold resistance, decent-ish fire/lethal/smash resistance, a really nice heal, and hibernate for when things go really bad. Plus your basically immune to any slow effects.
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Originally Posted by Pyro_Master_NA
Ice armor has no cold defense, so ALL of the debuffs that come at you would hit, as you don't have any inherent positional defense. So even with their slow and -rech resistance, they would have a large amount of debuffs on them.
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the slow resist cap is 100%, i think only tohit resist, end drain, and DDR cap at 95% (i think regen resist might be 100% as well, but i am not totally sure)
the only hole that ice armor has is to psi dmg
I've done this with my Ice/Ice tank. Would do +4/8 in about 8 minutes, but with Reactive it dropped down to just under 6 minutes. Even though IA has 90% cold res and no defense, most of the attacks you'll give the mobs will have a s/l component. Softcapping s/l means you'll rarely get hit, and when you do, the cold portion will be neutered.
IA also gets 100% slow resistance - if you take permafrost in addition to the other powers (some people like to skip it). Without PF you're looking at 80% I think. Both the 100% and 80% are AFTER you use EA.
If Ice/Ice were ever to be proliferated to brutes, farming with that combo would be sweet!
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the slow resist cap is 100%, i think only tohit resist, end drain, and DDR cap at 95% (i think regen resist might be 100% as well, but i am not totally sure)
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Not trying to nitpick - just saying
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So I'm reading a lot on how your res is 90 95 100 blah blah that's all really really good because then that means your up there just like fire res. But I also was reading on how the defense is workin out on ice Does ice not give good defense??? And I wondered about this one to if I was to make a farm then how would I do it because as uhmmm untold hero said I believe don't quote me on it but ice attacks are smashing and lethal attacks and not cold dmg so I'd have to have the baddies use ice blast n stuff but then wouldn't that defeat the purpose of farming with him because everything would be at range and not close up in your face !.??? Or would I pick the baddies to have ice mellee attacks which are S/L dmg and have them have one or two ice blast attack to ? So in the end I'd but taking just smashing and lethal dmg????? With little bit of ice blast on the side ????
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For my farm, I used Tanker: Ice Melee and Dominator: Icy Assault. Minions and LTs got regen for secondaries and bosses got 1 attack from an Ice Blast set. Yes they use the ranged attacks a bit... but they eventually run over to you. Taunt helps as well. Plus, if you do an ambush farm, you won't have to worry about distance for most of the run.|
Originally Posted by Calvin-
So I'm reading a lot on how your res is 90 95 100 blah blah that's all really really good because then that means your up there just like fire res. But I also was reading on how the defense is workin out on ice Does ice not give good defense??? And I wondered about this one to if I was to make a farm then how would I do it because as uhmmm untold hero said I believe don't quote me on it but ice attacks are smashing and lethal attacks and not cold dmg so I'd have to have the baddies use ice blast n stuff but then wouldn't that defeat the purpose of farming with him because everything would be at range and not close up in your face !.??? Or would I pick the baddies to have ice mellee attacks which are S/L dmg and have them have one or two ice blast attack to ? So in the end I'd but taking just smashing and lethal dmg????? With little bit of ice blast on the side ????
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Ice armor itself is a primarily defense based set. You can achieve softcapped s/l/e/n defenses. Cold resistance will be 90% and fire resistance will be ~30% or so. Also, to get the most out of AE, you're mobs will have to have at least 1 melee and ranged attack. The sets I listed above are good and you should be able to tune them to hit 100% reward at level 50.
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What would be a good farm for a dark armor scrapper ? As a scrapper all of the values seem to suck 
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Dark armor = dark melee or psionic assault from doms. However, DM has -tohit which could be bad and psi assault has slows, which is really bad for sets without slow resists.
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Originally Posted by Lohenien
What would be a good farm for a dark armor scrapper ? As a scrapper all of the values seem to suck
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I tried speccing him for the fire farm but he seems topped out at 32% fire defense and 42% fire resistance. Negative energy is only at 53 while psi is 56.
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Da should be fine in any farm you do. You should try and slot for Softcapped S/LE/NE defenses, fire and cold arn't really needed. You best attributes are , S/L resists, NE resists and PSI resists. In fact with the Cardiac Alpha you almost Cap PSI res. If you arn't to keen on spending the coin on softcapping those 4 maybe softcap just S/L, add oppresive gloom or Cloak of Fear... I reccomend Oppressive Gloom along with some decent recharge so that Dark regeneration is up at around 15-20 seconds and you should be damn near unstoppable. |
Originally Posted by Lohenien
I tried speccing him for the fire farm but he seems topped out at 32% fire defense and 42% fire resistance. Negative energy is only at 53 while psi is 56.
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Dechs Kaison has a good build you could get ideas from. I actually used his build for ideas on my Softcapped ELA
I dont really know what to say
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here found his very old build back in somthing like i17 or 18
it will need to be updated for you persifics
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...r+sucks&page=8
I dont really know what to say
Electric Armour and the Soft cap
Electric Armour and the 1st 20 levels
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I have been dusting off my Ice/SS tank and would love to get him into a ice farm, if anyone haves a good one please post id.
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Carnies. Dark Armor scrappers rip through them, especially if your primary deals lethal damage.
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What would be a good farm for a dark armor scrapper ? As a scrapper all of the values seem to suck
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Ok so fire farms are really wicked Everyone wants to get on them And make a toon to do them But what if!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want a iceborg farm =O!!!!!!!
What if I make a ice armor // something????
Tank and make a AE mission that has ice baddies Wouldn't that be pretty much the same thing as a fire farm and fire farm toon just everything is now ice stuff or is there to big of a diff from ice and fire??
Yes yes Fire gets a heal and end+ and burn and fire AoE but Wouldn't it be kinda cool to see a ice tank farm or would it be to hard to make an ice farmer ???????
Just a random thought to see what type of answers I'd get back !!!
Thanks!!