Regarding the Praetorian Surge Thread - 5/5/2011
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American_Valor,
Posted on: 2011-05-05 19:52 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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SUDDENLY, BADGERS EVERYWHERE
Edited to actually contribute:
Hand out some free server transfer tokens (One to get in, one to get home) and reward participants with, say, Notice of the Well or Favor of the Well or something like that, and see what kind of reaction you get.
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I think this might really be the case.|
Originally Posted by Steelclaw
* Now that they have Zwillinger to play buffer between them and an angry fan base, this is more of a stress test of HIM than the servers.
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And now to add my gripes about the whole thing. The day when the invasion will be happening on my home server, I will not be able to be at my computer to participate. And I really do not care about what happens on other servers at all. I want to be able to fight off the invasion on my home server. I especially do not want to fight on Freedom. It's the one server I have avoided making characters on (I believe I made one there just to have one). I know a lot of other people that avoid Freedom as well. Really, this whole thing just rubs me the wrong way.
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It's all about perception. If the perception is you are constantly late on deadlines or break promises, that is bad for business. It doesn't even matter how reasonable or accurate those perceptions happen to be. The end perception(not reality) is the only thing that matters.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I don't see anything wrong with announcing a release date while saying that it'll change if any major bugs are found.
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In this case, we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. |
Originally Posted by MunkiLord
It's all about perception. If the perception is you are constantly late on deadlines or break promises, that is bad for business. It doesn't even matter how reasonable or accurate those perceptions happen to be. The end perception(not reality) is the only thing that matters.
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At the time we originally announced the go live date for GSA, everything was progressing on time and we were on target to hit the date. If we did not give the players enough of a heads up, they would be unprepared and surprised by this development. Also, consider we were going up against the Royal Wedding (something we could not consider in our development schedule), which while completely separate, demanded a lot of attention from players in the EU.
Unfortunately an unanticipated issue demanded that we push the date. In this case, we would much rather give our Community an overabundance of information and look bad in pushing the date back than to not give our players enough forewarning.
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
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This case? You folks are always damned if you do, damned if you dont.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
In this case, we're damned if we do and damned if we don't.
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Also known as the Sony Method |
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
not give our players enough forewarning.
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@Golden Girl
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Good points. Sometimes that risk must be taken, like the reasons you just gave. In general though I've noticed Paragon Studios(and most other game studios) don't like to give dates when it can be avoided.|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
In this case, we're damned if we do and damned if we don't.
At the time we originally announced the go live date for GSA, everything was progressing on time and we were on target to hit the date. If we did not give the players enough of a heads up, they would be unprepared and surprised by this development. Also, consider we were going up against the Royal Wedding (something we could not consider in our development schedule), which while completely separate, demanded a lot of attention from players in the EU. Unfortunately an unanticipated issue demanded that we push the date. In this case, we would much rather give our Community an overabundance of information and look bad in pushing the date back than to not give our players enough forewarning. |
But like you said, in this case you're damned if you and damned if you don't.
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In all my time of playing, i've believed this to be the default position for you guys. It is because of your willingness to address mistakes, try new things, and offer as much info as you can (as frequently as you do) that I continue to trust in what you ultimately decide. With how diverse we as a player-base can be, it seems like anything you might offer will be derided by some as too insignificant to participate and by others as too important to be missed. |
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
In this case, we're damned if we do and damned if we don't.
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I appreciate your willingness as a studio to continue to accept this risk and listen to our feedback, whether what we type is reasonable or less than so. I look forward to the Surge, whenever it occurs and whatever form it takes.
PS: Yogi: How could I have forgotten the most EXTREME! drink ever to come out of Norway? Thanks for the reminder.
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When you think about it, shouldn't you be thanking us for making mistakes? Veridian Dynamics. We're sorry. You're welcome.
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This is a piece of software; if you don't give any predicted delivery dates or announcements about content until the product is perfect and out of testing then you aren't going to say anything ever.
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Originally Posted by Mav
... in general, unless you are sure it is perfect, or the bugs that are left don't impact the actual usability of the product you never promise any delivery date.
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lolmartyr
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Originally Posted by Yogi_Bare
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Haha, I didn't remember the drink at all until I watched the commercial....now I remember that commercial
I don't drink pop though so....doesn't matter to me
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Never mind event of Freedom, can we please get right time for EU servers.
Like I have noticed in previous post if events are from 10am - 1pm Pacific Time they can't be from 6:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. British Time on Union and from 4:00 p.m. - 7:00 p.m. British Time on Defiant.
Can you please check again when the events will be on EU servers?
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Closing this thread.
Please see the updated post here!
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
If I were in charge of trying to get every possible person on line to jam the server until it screams... hmmm....
1) Quadruple XP, influence, prestige and normal drop chances during the event.
2) 50th level characters will have incarnate salvage drop about the same rate as uncommon salvage for lower level characters.
People just might call in sick to work for this kind of incentive.
Lisa
So don't wait for heroes, do it yourself
You've got the power
winners are losers
who got up and gave it just one more try
***Dennis DeYoung