Discussion: City of Heroes celebrates its 7th Anniversary!
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And none of them stand up - which is the whole point of GR - Tyrant and his loyalist thugs are the bad guys, and GR set that up very well - the devs took the vague hints from the original Maria and Tina arcs, and fleshed them out into a whole new world of evil.
They took a few bits of evil text said by Tyrant and his Praetors in the ogirinal arcs, and turned them into entire evil story arcs - people like Mother Mayhem and Chimera got turned up to 11, and went form being more generic villains into totally evil monsters, and the crime sof Tyrant, which were only vaguely inted at in the orignal arcs were fleshed out fully in GR, with several new layers of evil added to them. |
The DE of Praetoria are vastly more powerful and widespread than the DE of Primal Earth.
It seems quite reasonable that they had/have access to a much larger pool of born psychics - quite possibly enough to beed up their own type of psiwar operative, one that could turn psi-sensitive minds to their side unless rigidly controlled by another force. I'm not aware that the sonic fence can stop Psi powers.
The Praetorian DE also might very well have access to something they have essentially none of on Primal Earth - magic. It is not hard to imagine that mystical incursion might be possible into an enclave of humans, if the negative emotions therein were of a sufficient strength. Using fear, hate and anger to power baleful spells is a well-worn magical trope. I don't think the sonic fences stop magical energies, do you? Keeping the populace calm and happy is, at this point, necessary.
Tyrant believes that the citizens of his city need to be controlled due to looking out over the endless fields of DE ruling over the areas in which humans were not controlled.
One could argue that this is not seen in cannon, because the resistance is not pursuing the DE agenda.
If a lynchpin of the DE agenda is removing Tyrant - and would you argue that it was not? - they are.
"Strength of numbers is the delight of the timid. The valiant in spirit glory in fighting alone."
- Mahatma Gandhi
Still CoHzy after all these years...
It seems quite reasonable that they had/have access to a much larger pool of born psychics - quite possibly enough to beed up their own type of psiwar operative, one that could turn psi-sensitive minds to their side unless rigidly controlled by another force. I'm not aware that the sonic fence can stop Psi powers.
The Praetorian DE also might very well have access to something they have essentially none of on Primal Earth - magic. It is not hard to imagine that mystical incursion might be possible into an enclave of humans, if the negative emotions therein were of a sufficient strength. Using fear, hate and anger to power baleful spells is a well-worn magical trope. I don't think the sonic fences stop magical energies, do you? Keeping the populace calm and happy is, at this point, necessary. |
Tyrant believes that the citizens of his city need to be controlled due to looking out over the endless fields of DE ruling over the areas in which humans were not controlled. |
One could argue that this is not seen in cannon, because the resistance is not pursuing the DE agenda. If a lynchpin of the DE agenda is removing Tyrant - and would you argue that it was not? - they are. |
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
I haven't seen any of that mentioned in-game, or out of the game - and none of it would justify what Tyrant and his loyalist thugs do.
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Destrotying Tyrant's dictatorship is also the main focus of the Heroes of Primal Earth in the war against the loyalists - but we also fight the Praetorian Hamidon.
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(dang it, I've been derailed again. This isn't the thread for this. at. all.)
That's one of the funniest things about these people falling overthemselves to try and serve Tyrant - from the moment CoV was released, there have been constant complaints by players having to serve a crazed dictator and his evil organizaiton - but from the moment GR came out, there have been constant complaints by players wanting to serve a crazed dictator and his evil organization
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
I haven't seen any of that mentioned in-game, or out of the game - and none of it would justify what Tyrant and his loyalist thugs do.
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The fact that it's not explicitly spelled out in-game allows for moral ambiguity.
Ruling people as a dictator (Tyrant) in an attempt to save them from a worse dictator (Hamidon) may or may not be a heroic or moral act.
Tyrant believe peole need ot be controlled, period - that's why he's a supervillain.
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Destrotying Tyrant's dictatorship is also the main focus of the Heroes of Primal Earth in the war against the loyalists - but we also fight the Praetorian Hamidon.
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(I haven't done the Praetoria Zone Events, so the answers may lie there, of course.)
"Strength of numbers is the delight of the timid. The valiant in spirit glory in fighting alone."
- Mahatma Gandhi
Still CoHzy after all these years...
That's one of the funniest things about these people falling overthemselves to try and serve Tyrant - from the moment CoV was released, there have been constant complaints by players having to serve a crazed dictator and his evil organizaiton - but from the moment GR came out, there have been constant complaints by players wanting to serve a crazed dictator and his evil organization
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A) All of those people are far, far dumber than you, or...
B) You do not understand what they feel are reasonable motivations.
Gauge your own infallibility here.
"Strength of numbers is the delight of the timid. The valiant in spirit glory in fighting alone."
- Mahatma Gandhi
Still CoHzy after all these years...
The fact that it's not explicitly spelled out in-game allows for moral ambiguity.
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Ruling people as a dictator (Tyrant) in an attempt to save them from a worse dictator (Hamidon) may or may not be a heroic or moral act. |
No, that's why he's a dictator. The two categories are not identical. |
Oh? References, please - I was under the impression Primal Earth was opposing an invasion, not initiating one. it is my (possibly flawed) understanding that Primal forces are attacking Lambda and the B.A.F. not out of concern for Praetoria, but Primal Earth. And - stop me if I'm wrong - that's also what the villains are trying to do. (I haven't done the Praetoria Zone Events, so the answers may lie there, of course.) |
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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^ Arguing with GG is like asking a hungry shark not to eat you. A waste of effort.
Can we get back on topic please?
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
^ Arguing with GG is like asking a hungry shark not to eat you. A waste of effort.
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Yay for the 7th anniversary of COH!
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I apologise.
Done and done.
"Strength of numbers is the delight of the timid. The valiant in spirit glory in fighting alone."
- Mahatma Gandhi
Still CoHzy after all these years...
Anyone know the name of the 7-year anniversary badge?
Liberty Server (@enderbean)
Arcs on Live
#1460 Hometown Rivalry
GR was being developed at the same time as the Incarnate system - when they were creating Praetoria, they were aware of what Tyrant and the Well were going to do, so they needed to give a few heavy prompts for the stiff-armers shouting "Hail Cole" that that route was a dead-end, and get them to either chose blue or red side so they'd be able to do the Incarnate content later on.
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I joined this madhouse in late 2004 and to say it informed my growth as a person, would be to understate it's impact on me. I feel quite proud to be part of this community, be they those, with whom I agree or disagree.
Congrats to everyone, both players an Devs,both present and past, for making this game/ experience what it is.
Here's hoping for at least , 7 more years.
Pinnacle & Virtue:
A bunch of Heroes - Alpha Team, Legion of Order.
A bunch of Villains -Black Citadel , Pinnache.
Having joined up with CoX back in Sept '04, I've seen alot of changes in the game. Some of them were bad (I want 5th column story missions back! And not just in TFs!), some of them were good (Huzzah for Red to Blue and Blue to Red, and everything inbetween!), and of some it has been awesome (can I get a side of power customization with that?). People flak GR, but imho they just need to be patient. Updates to that content will come, just as updates to CoH, and to CoV. Both of them started as 1-40, and were updated to 1-50. Overall though, staying on topic, I am proud to have stuck with this game for as long as I have, and I've met many great people thanks to it. I can't wait to see what kinds of things are in story for the next few issues, but I think we'll be seeing options for PEATs within 3 issues, and we'll also see more power customization within 4 issues (Perhaps customization of the V/HEATs?).
My circle is more like an egg. . .a handicapped egg. - A math professor
Should be quite an interesting night in Pocket D then.
It's usually where trials kick off, and, when trials finish and people dc, the dev chat is going to be interrupted with broadcasts saying "reinvite to the league please, I dc'd on exit".
Can't wait to see what impact that makes on their appearance.
Anyway, congratulations on 7 years, hopefully things will start to get better over the next few months!
It's gonna be damn crowded at the bar.
Get away from that computer once in a while!
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Peace.
I'm a (returning) Veteran but my account was only reactivated last week. Am I still eligible for the 7th Year Rewards?
I'm a (returning) Veteran but my account was only reactivated last week. Am I still eligible for the 7th Year Rewards?
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We announced last week that the Seven Years of Super Rewards loyalty program would begin on February 1, and end on April 18. But then we thought, "Hey, what good are rewards if everyone can't get a shot at them?" So because some of you might not have seen Tuesday's announcement or received our City of Heroes newsletter, we've set up a grace period of two weeks--which means the loyalty program will officially start on FEBRUARY 14, 2011. Players who keep an unbroken subscription from February 14 (12:01 a.m. EST / 5:01 a.m. GMT) to April 18 (11:59 p.m. EST / 4:59 a.m. GMT) will now earn the Seven Years of Super Rewards...rewards!
So be sure to have an active subscription from February 14th, and enjoy the rewards come April 28th! |
Woo for 7 years of COH. I've been here since July 2007 and have absolutely loved it. Sorry to say I don't have a 7th Anniversary vid (I had absolutely no idea what to do for this year!), but I'm hoping that War Witch, Black Pebble, Zwill, and the gang, have something uber spiffy for us.
And I want my Vanguard pack - Agent Sorina Tavarisch has been waiting for this for AGES!
Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite
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{{{Hurray for another pointless derailment down the Praetoria-is-evil-and-I'm-always-right-no-matter-what-you-want path!! }}}
Huzzah for CoX's 7th! It is a great milestone. I would expect some nice AV and GM summoning fun as they've done for past events on Live. Hopefully not limited to Praetorian (had plenty of that lately with the trials, but I'd also understand if they did). I will not bother to make the PD events, but they sound fun too.