Why is Base Construction the only unimproved aspect of CoH/CoV?

I would love to see the mission computer become something other than an obstacle when I'm zooming through my base.

My SG has been around since a few months after launch. One guy designed and built the whole thing, and apart from one time clicking on 'edit' just to see what the design system looked like, I have never touched it or had any interest in changing any of it. We don't meet or gather there, and now that everyone just pops into Ouroboros to travel, the transporters get little use. And since I got my field crafter I don't even do THAT there anymore. While I would love to see any additions to the game, this is something that I think a lot of people- like 99% or so- would rarely/ never touch.

Another thing that would be a good thing for SG'S.

Personnel Rooms: A place where you could store and show off your badges and souvenirs from missions, as well as decorate as the individual saw fit. It could be made to be different sizes and paid for by unused prestige and put in as an instanced map as to not over lag SG's with large memberships. The rooms could also be awarded by The SG via the Sg rankings.

This might bring in some interest for the casual individual, as well as use some of the Mounting prestige in the Larger SG's.

Maybe even introduce some purchasable Mini games either accessed through a game console or even a holo-room (aka startrek holodeck).

IMO, bases served exactly one purpose when they first came out: Entice CoH players to buy the new CoV.

Since then the only additions/improvements to base items or construction have been to support other additions to the game. Don't think the changes were all good, either. We lost unlimited salvage storage because they didn't want us to horde invention salvage (when it was only base and empowerment they didn't care how much we stored). They removed pathing because it broke more things than it preserved (base raids). So, in order to remove pathing requirements they removed the bounding boxes for base items. Interestingly this caused us to lose one of my favorite tricks in base building: Double doors.
How cool were they? Why do we need "doorways" anyway?

Grrr, there I go again. Stopping short.

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First, I love seeing the ideas.
Many of them have been put forward before.

But I'm not seeing a lot of "convincing".

Add the WHY/HOW to your suggestions. Spell it out. Seriously. It's what they've asked us to do.

This idea will bring in customers because...
This idea will benefit current players in this way...
Keep it brief and straightforward.
Bullet point it if you have to... we need to give them solid reasoning.

I love you all; your passion, ideas and artistry are inspiring.
BUT, the devs are in such a position that they also need to "convince the suits".
We can help them help us, but we need to do it a certain way.

Something else to consider; is your idea a "necessity", "simple quickie", "moderate effort", or "complete overhaul" type? This is a big factor. The more effort needed to implement an idea, the more powerful reasoning it will need.

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I've got some points to make on this:

What is the difference between bringing in new customers and preventing the existing customers from leaving the game?

If one new customer comes in, and one old one leaves, how are the Devs making a profit?

To be honest, my SG is the only reason I still play this game. It's inactive, but as the founder, I work on the base all the time, trying new things whenever I get inspired.

I play the game, yes, but let's be frank...it's all the same old thing. None of the promising features and content is enough to keep my interest. When I log in, I look at my 50s and don't even bother. I look at my other toons and barely bother.

In fact, the only time I usually play a toon is when a friend happens to log on. Otherwise I either base build or log off.

So why do I stick around? Out of loyalty to a game that I keep hoping will show the same loyalty to me that I have shown to it. Yet time and time again, I am disappointed.

Already, I have been trying new games out, looking for one I like...on I enjoy. Before, if I didn't have the money to renew on time, I would scramble to get it. Not I have 2-3 games installed that give me the chance to play online for free.

My love of this game has been slowly dying, and the reason for that is the lack of attention the devs give to the part I enjoy most. Base Building.

And while it's true that no other MMO gives the same ability this one does, it feels like we're being slapped each time an issue comes out and nothing has changed. It's insulting.

I disagree that a total rework of the system is needed. I think the system works good enough. Sure, there are a few things I think could be upgraded, but they are not "must haves".

If they really wanted to satisfy all of us base builders, they would just add the existing map items to the bases, a little each issue. No, it would not make the news, but it would be a commitment that would satisfy many of us.

I mean, lets me honest...if we cannot get a total upgrade in the system, wouldn't the arachnos map items be welcomed? Wouldn't a larger entrance room be welcomed as well? One tile of water?

Heck, if they would just add an "elements" tab it would be great.

All of this exists in the game in the proper form...all they have to do is assign it to the base builder and decide on pricing. That's it. And they do not even have to do it all at once. Just add 2 items per issue, that's it. That would not tick off any PVPers or such, but it would go a long way to satisfy the Base Builders themselves.

But it seems the devs would rather slap us in the face.

There are only so many supergroups, and base building is limited in most cases to one individual within that group- so we're talking a subset of a subset.

The only ways I could see base building significantly upgraded:

1. Personal hideouts/headquarters: everyone can build a base!
2. Expanded gameplay functionality for VG/SG members' bases: reason for all members of a group to focus on their base, not just the builder

An odd and only half formed thought...

So what if they added in Personal Bases which allowed for things like showing off badges and souvenirs and some sort of costume closet to show off your various costumes. Along with the various decorations like beds, lounges, TVs and so on. And if you have the proper badges you could have a terminal to the Auction House or access to your Vault or a Invention table.

And one of the things you could put in your personal base is a door to your SG Base. The SG Base would still have all the things it has now, but add a room for 'barracks' (or whatever you want to call it) which would have all the doors (or probably just one point with a selection of doors) that granted access to the various personal rooms. The SG permissions would decide who was allowed to 'plant a door' in the Base but each individual would decide if their door was locked or unlocked.

I'm sure there's lots of coding which might make this untenable but it seems to me to at least be a fix that doesn't require a complete overhaul. It would only require one more type of room be added to the current Base system. The personal rooms could either use current Base build code or be the core that eventually a new Base system is built around.

Out of my 15 Toons, my first toon I rolled, a level 50 Blaster, is the only one who constructed a base. I didn't want to join a SB or VG so I just built a base. Needless to say, not much has been done with it because of cost issues to enlarge the base. I would say if they made it "easier" meaning less costly to build "add-on's" and extra rooms, then I might find it more enticing.

Also, I think that if bases are to stay around, they (dev's) need to rethink how bases are used, not just as a giant closet to hold stuff and to show all your friends how cool it is. Over time, the shiny will wear off. There probably needs to be some kind of integration within the game with bases playing a vital part on some missions, TF and such. Maybe when they first implemented bases, they had a lot more in mind for their uses. But, as others have said, it is time for an improvement and to rethink bases.

A small change to start with?

An xyz axis tool and new objects.

Is that a small enough start?

An xyz axis is apparently NOT a small thing to implement.

They tried it.
Once.
It mucked up the works.
Bigtime.

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I feel it would be nice to see a red name post here. To at least say hi, and good job.

All the nicely worded lists and easy to do ideas don't mean a thing if they don't have the

attention of someone who can bring it up in a meeting.