what happend to the market
By
Clave_Dark_5,
Posted on: 2011-03-18 01:33 in The Market and Inventions
sorry to hear that. ive had 7 purples fall in about 10 runs. 3 were in 1 run. :P
re purples:
Apparently you two are the Purple drop versions of the protagonists in 'Unbreakable'. Scary. 
Why are prices being down a bad thing? What you should be doing is buying up a bunch of the excess stock, hiding them somewhere in your base, to sell later once the market rebounds.
A good marketeer will make a profit off of any market condition. Prices up? Good! Prices down? Good! Prices doing the thriller dance? Damn sexy!
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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New people are discouraged by the market. I am confused by it, but still manage to make it work for me. But truthfully, when I see a ruby selling for a million some money I can only assume someone bought all of em and then upped the price.
Thats crappy. Thats crappy for new people especially and old people alike.
This market is better than some I have seen in games, but really there is a certain undertone to it which is not friendly.
That's crappy, except for the people who beat critters, sell rubies, and accidentally get hundreds of thousands of inf for them.
There's a quick solution to at least some of that: Profiteer more humbly and cut the "upped the price" people off. Buy for 5K, sell for 100K, check in a couple times a day. They call it "peak shaving" in the energy business. You're taking the worst cases and making them not so bad.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
@Boltcutter in game.
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More often than not, when you see a very common piece going for such a massive price, that means someone made a horrible typo, and not that that is the going rate.|
Originally Posted by Nyx
But truthfully, when I see a ruby selling for a million some money I can only assume someone bought all of em and then upped the price.
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The market is really much simpler than people assume... and far easier to use than the market in other MMOs I've played (double blind auction > see all listings)
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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And yet I still drop mine on the market for 5 inf. Lesson learned: patience is a virtue.
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Originally Posted by Nyx
But truthfully, when I see a ruby selling for a million some money I can only assume someone bought all of em and then upped the price.
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Originally Posted by Nyx
But truthfully, when I see a ruby selling for a million some money I can only assume someone bought all of em and then upped the price.
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Rubies seem to be consistently either low supply or high demand. I rarely see more than a few hundred for sale, when there are literally over 10 thousand for sale of things like Demonic Threat Report. If you want to make sure you get one, you bid more. 10,000 inf is basically one +2 minion for a level 50. More rich and impatient 50s may bid even more. Some people see those sale prices, and they list high. But then other sellers come in and undercut them, so those high-priced listings sit there for a while. So you end up with stuff at the "top" of the market sales queue that's relatively low priced, and then a strata near the bottom that's sometimes much higher priced.
If someone buys up all the lower-priced stock, all you're left with is the higher priced stock. This doesn't require any nefarious intent. All it takes is someone taking a bulk slash and burn crafting approach to the level 45/50 crafting badges. If you go for the Travel IO badge, one of the cheaper recipes to buy at the table is Range, which requires two Rubies for each crafted IO, and takes 28 IOs to get the badge. So if someone buys up all the salvage they need to do that, they pull 54 Rubies off the market when there are only a couple of hundred for sale. Suddenly, you're down into the more expensive Rubies that have probably been being undercut for days.
Combine that with people who will throw huge amounts of inf at the market for instant gratification, and I wouldn't be surprised if that 1M inf Ruby sale was someone with a lot of inf who couldn't be bothered to figure out what a successful bid that didn't overshoot really was. It may be hard to believe, but I know players who do stuff like that. For them, spending 1M inf to have what they want right now is the whole point of having that play money.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Originally Posted by Nyx
New people are discouraged by the market. I am confused by it, but still manage to make it work for me. But truthfully, when I see a ruby selling for a million some money I can only assume someone bought all of em and then upped the price.
Thats crappy. Thats crappy for new people especially and old people alike. This market is better than some I have seen in games, but really there is a certain undertone to it which is not friendly. |
Actually that 1M inf price tag is the most newb friendly thing in the game. For every buyer there is a seller....
For every person that says, "the price of a common salvage was too high and I was forced to pay X", theres someone else who says "wow, I cant believe I got X for my common salvage." And that seems pretty newbie friendly to me.
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Random is random. I had my best ITF ever last night. My PB got more than a full level, plus a respec recipe (sold for just under 200 million) and a Ragnarok recipe (which I kept).
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Originally Posted by graystar_blaster
And my purple farm has not had a drop in about 15 runs(dreck map)
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I list all of my salvage (except rares) for 1 inf. I'm undercutting your niche. Hah!
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Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5
And yet I still drop mine on the market for 5 inf. Lesson learned: patience is a virtue.
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@Quasadu
"We must prepare for DOOM and hope for FREEM." - SirFrederick
Same. I keep rare salvage or price it accordingly; everything else goes up for 1 influence.
my lil RWZ Challenge vid
its tanked. Prices are way down stop playing your 50s please and resume buying.
And my purple farm has not had a drop in about 15 runs(dreck map)
this is sucking