Daredevil: Born Again (the movie, that is)
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Posted on: 2011-03-16 11:11 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Originally Posted by Acemace
Yeah, yeah it was that bad.
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Originally Posted by PuceNonagon
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Wait, can we all agree that it was literally Ben Affleck's laziest role? He and fellow smoker Colin Farrell were wheezing after each take in the action scenes, and frankly, it shows in the final product.
I enjoyed Daredevil. I didn't think was great, but I found nothing unforgiveable about it. I liked how they showed what he did just destroyed him every time he went out there. The radar sense was really cool with how they portrayed it. Sure was some weak points in it , but it was no catwoman. I found the directors cut to be a bit better too.
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Seriously, this movie is ridiculous. It's not even comic book fun, it's just eye-rollingly bad.
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I never totally disliked the movie, but there was always something about it that never quite made it as cool as it might have been. It was like it tried really hard to be a first class movie but never managed to focus itself well enough to reach past being a second class affair. If anything I'm almost upset more that it somehow managed to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" when there was no solid reason that should have ever happened.
Oh well, maybe a reboot will fix that problem.
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I can give you three solid reasons: bad writing, bad directing and bad acting. Watch that clip I posted above. It's amazing how bad it is. It's especially unforgivable for Colin Farrell to be that bad, since he's one of the best actors of his generation.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I never totally disliked the movie, but there was always something about it that never quite made it as cool as it might have been. It was like it tried really hard to be a first class movie but never managed to focus itself well enough to reach past being a second class affair. If anything I'm almost upset more that it somehow managed to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" when there was no solid reason that should have ever happened.
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He is? o.O
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Originally Posted by Ironik
I can give you three solid reasons: bad writing, bad directing and bad acting. Watch that clip I posted above. It's amazing how bad it is. It's especially unforgivable for Colin Farrell to be that bad, since he's one of the best actors of his generation.
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He's VERY overrated, in my opinion. He's done some good stuff, for sure, but a lot of the time he's just seething on screen and he looks lame. This is quite common in sci-fi/fantasy type movies which require a certain sense to pull off... when otherwise good actors can't quite "get" the genre and look ridiculous. See: Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face, Tim Roth as General Thade AND Emil Blonksy, etc. Daredevil failed mainly because neither Affleck or Farrell had the sense of the genre.|
Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
He is? o.O
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My two cents.
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Definitely. Have you seen In Bruges? Amazing. He was the only good thing about Minority Report.
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Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
He is? o.O
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I'm not arguing it was a "less than perfect" movie. What I'm saying is that some movies are just bad because it was like they were destined to be bad. This one almost seemed like it was "supposed" to be good, but for some reason the Universe conspired to screw it up for no apparent reason.|
Originally Posted by Ironik
I can give you three solid reasons: bad writing, bad directing and bad acting. Watch that clip I posted above. It's amazing how bad it is. It's especially unforgivable for Colin Farrell to be that bad, since he's one of the best actors of his generation.
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It just has that quality of being an "unexpected failure", which somehow was more irksome to me than just being a "guaranteed failure". I mean after all it had the great Colin Farrell in it - how could it have possibly failed?
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I've yet to see that one, and Tom Cruise was just as good as Colin Farrel in Minority Report.|
Originally Posted by Ironik
Definitely. Have you seen In Bruges? Amazing. He was the only good thing about Minority Report.
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I don't know why Daredevil is considered a bad movie by so many. I liked it quite a bit!
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Wait, can we all agree that it was literally Ben Affleck's laziest role?
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If only that were true.
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Oh god, burn it, burn it with fire.
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Originally Posted by Ironik
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Because it falls in line with hating all those others movies that were hits. |
Originally Posted by Daemodand
I don't know why Daredevil is considered a bad movie by so many. I liked it quite a bit!
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It's not a reboot though. It's a sequal with different actors in the rolls.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I never totally disliked the movie, but there was always something about it that never quite made it as cool as it might have been. It was like it tried really hard to be a first class movie but never managed to focus itself well enough to reach past being a second class affair. If anything I'm almost upset more that it somehow managed to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" when there was no solid reason that should have ever happened.
Oh well, maybe a reboot will fix that problem. |
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The ability of a movie to make a profit doesn't really affect whether or not I think they are any good or not. There have been profitable movies that I liked and ones I didn't like. This happened to be one that I thought could have been better. *shrugs*|
Originally Posted by BrandX
Because it falls in line with hating all those others movies that were hits.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
It's not a reboot though. It's a sequal with different actors in the rolls.
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think of it in terms of the Bond films (before Craig), or the Batman movies (before Nolan). they didnt really follow a set continuity, but were able to perpetually change the cast & crew fairly often. i tend to think of those as sequels even if the stories dont directly follow what happened in the previous movies.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I think the line gets pretty blurred once you change actors/directors, place the main character in a new storyline and wait 8+ years since the last one. You may be right that this will technically be a "sequel", but let's not stretch the definition of that word too much.
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I was only going on what they said. It would take place after the last, with the Kingpin knowing Daredevil's identity and making life hell for him.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
The ability of a movie to make a profit doesn't really affect whether or not I think they are any good or not. There have been profitable movies that I liked and ones I didn't like. This happened to be one that I thought could have been better. *shrugs*
I think the line gets pretty blurred once you change actors/directors, place the main character in a new storyline and wait 8+ years since the last one. You may be right that this will technically be a "sequel", but let's not stretch the definition of that word too much. |
To me, that sounds like sequal in the vein of Batman 3 & 4.
As for my comment on the movie making a profit and people hating it. That was more of remark that on the internet, you can find more people who hate something, than when I can go up to people and they'll say that like it.
Perfect example is Transformers. Hear it all the time on the internet. Talk to friends, meet new people, they enjoyed it.
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Again that's my point about the terminology used here being in a "gray area" at best.|
Originally Posted by Veritech
think of it in terms of the Bond films (before Craig), or the Batman movies (before Nolan). they didnt really follow a set continuity, but were able to perpetually change the cast & crew fairly often. i tend to think of those as sequels even if the stories dont directly follow what happened in the previous movies.
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Sure several different actors played Bond or Batman over the years. But in the grand spectrum between "sequel" and "reboot" I would count the series of Bond and Batman movies to be a tad bit more "sequel-y" than this new Daredevil movie is going to be. Almost 10 years later with a different actor after only one movie? Eh, that smells more "reboot-y" to me.
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No, my RL were similarly disappointed in the Daredevil movie. Then again, they're fans of the comic book, so the adaptation was already handicapped (so to speak).|
Originally Posted by BrandX
As for my comment on the movie making a profit and people hating it. That was more of remark that on the internet, you can find more people who hate something, than when I can go up to people and they'll say that like it.
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Ironic, though, that the Internet, a fundamentally democratic and egalitarian platform, is often criticized for elitism and snobbery.
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Well for what it's worth I've mentioned in the past on these forums that Transformers was a groan-tastic mess and if you were to meet me in real life I'd tell you the same thing. Guess I could say the same thing about Daredevil now too. |
Originally Posted by BrandX
Perfect example is Transformers. Hear it all the time on the internet. Talk to friends, meet new people, they enjoyed it.
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Heh...I'm not saying there arent people like that. But the internet, seems to bring it out more imo (or at least seem to) when you get involved in small little areas...like a message forum! |
Originally Posted by Lothic
Well for what it's worth I've mentioned in the past on these forums that Transformers was a groan-tastic mess and if you were to meet me in real life I'd tell you the same thing. Guess I could say the same thing about Daredevil now too.
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