Ice has too few color choices


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The only choices for ice blaster and ice controller are blue, purple, faded green and faded blah colors.
Most other powers have a huge range of colors, but ice is so limited in its color choices.
It'd be nice to have red ice, emerald green ice, yellow ice, orange ice.
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Let's just say no to the yellow ice and snow. otherwise /signed


 

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*makes joke about yellow snow*

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While I do think that some people will use yellow snow for less than mature purposes, I still think that we should get it as a color choice, along with many other color choices.

I was making an Earth/Ice Dominator the other day, with a backstory that she was made out of living crystal. While I could color all of the Earth effects (or most of them) as different colored gems, I could only make the ice ones blue, green, or white, really. Red, Black, Amber, and other colors would have helped me out a lot.


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My main and namesake is an Fire/Ice/Pyre Tanker who would greatly appreciate more diverse color palettes for Ice.

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If you guys think yellow snow is bad, try white fire. Especially with the splash after it hits your enemy.

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I find that earth powers suffer from the same problem, particularly when you select Crystal.


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I find that earth powers suffer from the same problem, particularly when you select Crystal.
Really? The recent Earth/ Dom mentioned above was able to color the crystals a lot. I was able to simulate rubies, emeralds, sapphires, amethyst, onyx, and amber quite well.


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As I recall, the devs specifically limited the color palette because they didn't want people coloring the ice in odd ways so that it looked like something other than ice.


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As I recall, the devs specifically limited the color palette because they didn't want people coloring the ice in odd ways so that it looked like something other than ice.
Well thats just bloody stupid, then...


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As I recall, the devs specifically limited the color palette because they didn't want people coloring the ice in odd ways so that it looked like something other than ice.
Specifically, BABs said that color-tinted ice came out looking horrible. People came out looking like giant popsicles. The color completely overwhelmed the texture. That's why they stuck to the paler palettes.


 

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Well thats just bloody stupid, then...
Not really... the powerset is ice armor. If you want it to not look like ice, why are you making a character with ice armor? Perhaps another powerset would work better.


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Not really... the powerset is ice armor. If you want it to not look like ice, why are you making a character with ice armor? Perhaps another powerset would work better.
Because maybe people don't want to be lumbered with Stones sub-par 1-31 run, or just don't want to play Stone? Ice armour is a perfectly good set, as are ice melee, manipulation and ice blast. Blasters, for example, don't get any stone powers, so they have no other options for crystaline based powers.

People have long fudged powers as things they 'aren't', like energy blast for water, fire for various things, amongst others. So why is that idea which has been supported for so long suddenly 'wrong'?


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People have long fudged powers as things they 'aren't', like energy blast for water, fire for various things, amongst others. So why is that idea which has been supported for so long suddenly 'wrong'?
Like Starjammer said, because the devs thought it looked crummy. You can disagree with them if you want, but they have the final say, and I think you'd be hard-pressed to find any kind of decent software developer who would deliberately release a crummy product (I know I'm opening a huge can of worms with this statement but I can't think of another way to say it).


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Then why not let there be the current 'Ice and ice only' version of ice powers, and a crystaline/gem type used by the Earth powers (since 'Earth Blast' doesn't exist) which uses opaque colours, or whatever the ones for gems do at the moment?


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Not really... the powerset is ice armor. If you want it to not look like ice, why are you making a character with ice armor? Perhaps another powerset would work better.
For me, I didnt mean for ice armor
I meant for ice blaster and controller (I never play tank).
I dont see any reason why Chilblain, Arctic Air, Ice Slick, Blocks of Ice, Jack Frost, Ice Blast, Ice Storm, Bitter Ice Blast, Bitter Freeze Ray, Blizzard, etc cant have different colors.
For me bright ruby red Ice Slick and Ice Storm would be awesome.

I agree on the limited colors on ice shields, I'd be annoyed if a defender gave me Ice Shield and it was a color that made me look like a popsicle.


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I think it's crap that Snowstorm and Freezing Rain in Storm Summoning are forced to use the limited Ice color selection. I can't play Storm due not being able to color those two powers in the way that I want.


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I think it's crap that Snowstorm and Freezing Rain in Storm Summoning are forced to use the limited Ice color selection.
That reminds me that I wanted to also ask the devs for some new sound effects.
Ever play an ice/storm troller? Every sound is the same
Snow Storm: Whoosh
Gale: Whoosh
Arctic Air: Whoosh
Shiver: Whoosh
Ice Slick: Whoosh
Casting Jack Frost: Whoosh

Really fun set, but boring with the exact same sounds for almost every power.


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I think it's crap that Snowstorm and Freezing Rain in Storm Summoning are forced to use the limited Ice color selection. I can't play Storm due not being able to color those two powers in the way that I want.
Correction: you choose not to play Storm because you can't color it the way you want. Nobody is stopping you from playing it besides yourself.


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Correction: you choose not to play Storm because you can't color it the way you want. Nobody is stopping you from playing it besides yourself.
Semantics.


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Semantics.
Doesn't change the fact that what he said is true.


 

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As I recall, the devs specifically limited the color palette because they didn't want people coloring the ice in odd ways so that it looked like something other than ice.
BABs specifically explained that giving Ice vivid colours made it look like crystal. I recall agreeing with him at the time for some reason I could not reconstruct now on pain of death, but I no longer see this as a problem. Many powersets already step on each other's toes now that their effects are customizable. Rad Blast and Energy Blast are essentially the same thing when they're made the same colour. There are differences, yes, but they're academic. You blast enemies with different sprites of energy.

As such, I say enable all power colours. If ice ends up looking like crystal, then LET IT. In fact, I originally wanted to make my Slime Girl into an Ice/Ice character, the ice representing crystallised slime, but went with something else instead.

Let me put this another way - if the water in Cimeroran caves can be allowed to be a Nuka Cola Quantum shade of fluorescent blue, why can't my ice be allowed to be the same? Can't I just scoop up some of that inky blue water and freeze it for my ice?

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Oh, yeah, and Storm, too. What gives? That set may as well not have customization options.


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BABs specifically explained that giving Ice vivid colours made it look like crystal.
Actually, he said it made Ice looked like cartoony gems, which I took to mean that it looked bad.