Paying to team? A common thing?


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Ha. I'd pay the inf just to mess with him.


 

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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm View Post
Another reason why blue-side is largely a bunch of idiots. Good game.
Yes, it's harder to find idiots on red side. In fact, it's harder to find people in general, on red side.

I guess it's all relative.


 

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Yes, it's harder to find idiots on red side. In fact, it's harder to find people in general, on red side.

I guess it's all relative.
I'm not sure what server you play on. It is pretty easy to find people on Virtue just by using /search.


 

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I'm not sure what server you play on. It is pretty easy to find people on Virtue just by using /search.
The good players typically hide from searches, since there are a lot of idiots on both sides of the line who use macros/binds to send spam invites to anyone online.

We use global channels.


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The good players typically hide from searches, since there are a lot of idiots on both sides of the line who use macros/binds to send spam invites to anyone online.

We use global channels.
Totally false. Good players do not hide. Macros make things easier to send message those who are set to LFT. Global channels are unreliable as they are not as universal as /search is.

AKA, not everyone is in the same channel.


 

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Totally false. Good players do not hide. Macros make things easier to send message those who are set to LFT. Global channels are unreliable as they are not as universal as /search is.
Totally false.

I hide. Tell me I'm not a good player.

Macros make things easier to send spam.

Nobody uses LFT flags. People use global channels.

Global channels are more reliable as they are community moderated. We keep our trash cleaned up. Our trash spams people who don't hide from search.


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Interesting I have seen the adds for this but I have treated them like all other SPAM I set them to ignore and report them as a spammer. Enough people do that GM steps in.

I also can't imagine what is in an AE mission that is worth 10 Mil Inf. My only guess is that it is to power level people who don't know how to play/don't want to bother learning.

Some of the TF/SFs I've been on lately frighten me as to how randomly formed Incarnate Trials will go. By level 50 you should at least know to stay with group and not dive into the next spawn when you personally are at 25% health not a Tank and don't have a healer on the team, I mean come ON. lol But they got to 50 somehow.


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
Totally false.

I hide. Tell me I'm not a good player.

Macros make things easier to send spam.

Nobody uses LFT flags. People use global channels.

Global channels are more reliable as they are community moderated. We keep our trash cleaned up. Our trash spams people who don't hide from search.
I'm never sent spam; I have no idea what you are talking about. And I can say you may not be a good player because you opt-out of the LFT tool.

Plenty of people use LFT flags. They are simple to set and search for. As I said, I can put together SFs using just them.


 

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I'm never sent spam; I have no idea what you are talking about.
Easy there, I have not accused you of anything.

I have simply stated that macros/binds are the tools used by people who send spam, typically in conjunction with the /search function. This unfortunate combination of factors, along with the rarely used flag function, is what drives many players to hide from searches.


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I mostly use the Global Channels to get teams. However, if things are slow or I am on one of my secondary or tertiary servers, I will sometimes set up a macro to politely ask folks if they would like to join a team/TF/SF, and then use the search window to find people who have "looking for team" up.

And if none of my usual friends are on, I will occastionally turn on my "Looking for Team" flag while doing Tip Missions.

Like most things in life, the problem rests in abusing the system rather than using it reasonably.


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Charging for farm runs used to be much more common than it is now. My wife and I used to run the liberate TV farm all the time with my brute and her corruptor and we would charge people to join. It was different back then though.

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I've never seen or heard of anyone charge for farms redside.
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I've never seen or heard of anyone charge for farms redside.
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Paying to team is like paying to breathe.
So, it's common on Mars, then?


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So, it's common on Mars, then?
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I've never seen or heard of anyone charge for farms redside.
Therefore it does not happen? Hang out in Cap on freedom for a while.


 

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Originally Posted by Amanita View Post
Sometimes I'll join AE teams if nothing else is going on, or it sounds like they're doing something interesting. So I joined one tonight, when the leader broadcast "looking for more".
He said something about inf, and I thought he was one of those who pays people to help test missions. I've seen that before. Since you don't get xp or other rewards in test mode, some people will give out inf in exchange for others helping them test missions.
This turned out not to be the case. Nooo. As soon as I entered the mission, he opened a trade window and demanded 10 million inf, quite rudely.
I quit right then. I remember people used to pay others to act as bridges during the old sidekicking/exemping days, but I thought that had pretty well dried up.
And Isis knows I've done lots of AE missions, both farm and non farm, and nobody has ever demanded inf from me, nor have I asked anyone else for inf to join any team I ran.

So how common is this business of paying millions of inf for the privelege of joining a team?
I dunno if it was a farm or not- the leader didn't say, and I didn't stay long enough to find out. It didn't look like the maps usually used for farming.
Is charging inf for teaming very common, and is it generally considered a positive thing?

I had to laugh when somebody else publicly called out that team leader, suggesting he was a hypocrite- apparently he's been on lots of other people's farm/pl/plain AE mission runs, and he's never paid a cent of inf to them, but asks millions from others.
Sounds like you should have payed attention to what the "something about inf" was and it would have saved you the trouble. It seems like you were made aware that money would be required for you to join the farm and you joined anyway, without paying attention, and did not want to pay for it. Is it rude to expect you to pay for something that was advertised as such?

As far as how common it is, it depends on your server. Fredom has them all the time in atlas and cap. Personally I don't normally advertise "pay me to farm you". But if I see someone doing it I tend to lowball them and take all their customers away.

Also it should be noted that it is not paying for joining a team. It is paying for someone else to do the leveling for you, and in most cases very fast leveling that you would not be able to accomplish either solo or even on a decent team. By fast I mean lvl 49-50 in 10 Min.

Also, so what if someone else got him to 50 and he did not have to pay for it. He is offering a service and you can decide if you want that service or not.


Edit to add: Something I did forget to add. In most cases you will get the ticket cap for the mission as well. If you spend your tickets wisely and know how to sell stuff on the market, you can normally make up the cost for the PL with the potential of even turning a profit.


 

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Like I said, he was not clear whether he wanted or was offering inf. I've seen people offering inf to teammates- usually to either help lowbies out, or to help them playtest missions- the inf being a compensation for time and help, since you don't get ticket drops or xp for running in test mode.
And this was the first time since bridging/padding ended that I had personally run into anybody wanting money to join their team.


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
The good players typically hide from searches, since there are a lot of idiots on both sides of the line who use macros/binds to send spam invites to anyone online.

We use global channels.
Last informal poll on boards showed about half on hide.

I really disagree that 'good players typically hide from searches'.

Unless you are using some self selecting defination of good that requires hiding from searches.


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I have had the opposite. I have had people ask to pay me to team on the red side. Seems people solo more there and I was offered 2 Mill to join a team, which I would have joined anyways. So I did not take the money.

It's because AE farms were popular and are weeded out now, so this person thinks they are doing you a favor by leveling you very quickly, but they don't realize that by doing that you miss out on merrits, badges, and junk.

On the other hand, with TF's running more and more people playing 50's rather than lowbies, and the incarnate system geared for end game toons, this person is either ego driven farmer, or smart. I mean, smart as in..."You are new or you like that toon and you don't have a 50, so Ill cash in by farming you to a level in which you can participate in the fun"

Seriously, I dislike the farming. I really do, but sometimes, just sometimes, when I enjoy a toon, and cant TF I wish it would come back, because the grind sometimes kills ya a little, and really all you want to do is play, and while some people want to solo content, most would rather team and when you are casual, like me, it's daunting.

It feels like CO...which I hated because there was litteraly no reason to ever team ever.


 

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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm View Post
I've never seen or heard of anyone charge for farms redside.
I used to see it on redside Freedom a fair amount, back in the monkey days. I haven't seen much of it lately though. Come to think of it, the last time I saw anyone asking for pay to join a mish, they were running a mayhem. That was maybe a month ago.

I imagine those trying to get people to play are just hoping to siphon up some easy money from players who don't know any better.