i19 does not bode well


ABC123

 

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I thought the idea behind this game was that teaming was optional and that everything could be acquired solo.

Now with this release I can't progress my 50's unless I do TFS, do the devs realise how hard it is to get a team together on some servers outside the US ?!

The time zone difference kills us. I am afraid if this doesn't change then this is the end of my 6 year run with this game.

:-(


 

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You do know that you can get all the incarnate stuff solo, don't you?


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Originally Posted by ABC123 View Post
I thought the idea behind this game was that teaming was optional and that everything could be acquired solo.

Now with this release I can't progress my 50's unless I do TFS, do the devs realise how hard it is to get a team together on some servers outside the US ?!

The time zone difference kills us. I am afraid if this doesn't change then this is the end of my 6 year run with this game.

:-(
not sure why you say that you cannot find teams to do TF,s outside the US as at the moment TF,s are being run a lot more than they used to, I play on EU defiant server most of the time and would have no trouble joining a tf team if I wanted and I believe that union is the same,What server,s are you playing on and at what time ?


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Originally Posted by Shadowe View Post
You do know that you can get all the incarnate stuff solo, don't you?
You can unlock the slot solo but to get the salvage the notes say:

The components to unleash the power of the Alpha Slot and its Incarnate Abilities can be acquired by completing existing level 50 content:
Statesman's Task Force (STF)
Lord Recluse's Strike Force (LRSF)
Imperious Task Force (ITF)
Lady Grey Task Force (LGTF)
Dr. Khan's Task Force / Barracuda's Strike Force
Hamidon
Cathedral of Pain
A component is also available from the Vanguard Merit vendor in the Rikti War Zone


 

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Originally Posted by Prof_Radburn View Post
not sure why you say that you cannot find teams to do TF,s outside the US as at the moment TF,s are being run a lot more than they used to, I play on EU defiant server most of the time and would have no trouble joining a tf team if I wanted and I believe that union is the same,What server,s are you playing on and at what time ?
I'm in Australia, generally the Justice server but I flip around freedom, justice, victory and virtue. Unless I want to play at 3 in the morning (which I don't ) there isn't much happening between 7:30pm and 10:00pm local time during the week, weekends are better but then I do have a life :-)


 

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Originally Posted by ABC123 View Post
You can unlock the slot solo but to get the salvage the notes say:

The components to unleash the power of the Alpha Slot and its Incarnate Abilities can be acquired by completing existing level 50 content:
Statesman's Task Force (STF)
Lord Recluse's Strike Force (LRSF)
Imperious Task Force (ITF)
Lady Grey Task Force (LGTF)
Dr. Khan's Task Force / Barracuda's Strike Force
Hamidon
Cathedral of Pain
A component is also available from the Vanguard Merit vendor in the Rikti War Zone

Two lines down from your release note quote:


If all else fails, minor Incarnate Shards sub-components for constructing your Alpha Abilities can also be occasionally acquired off of level 50+ foes and level 50 players in PVP.


 

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Originally Posted by Aluminum_Dave View Post
Two lines down from your quote:


If all else fails, minor Incarnate Shards sub-components for constructing your Alpha Abilities can also be occasionally acquired off of level 50+ foes and level 50 players in PVP.
it's the "occasionally acquired" that sux, so far they have been rarer than purple recipes. I really don't want to farm or grind for what are key components of the game for 50s.

This just seems like the devs trying to push people into TFs because they weren't being played as much as they wanted. (maybe becuase it's so hard to get a team together !!)


 

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They have dropped way more than purple recipes for me. To me their drop rate seems ok.


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Solo +0/x2 rate so far: about a drop every 3-5 missions.

Purple drops at the same settings: once in a blue moon.


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Originally Posted by ABC123 View Post
it's the "occasionally acquired" that sux, so far they have been rarer than purple recipes. I really don't want to farm or grind for what are key components of the game for 50s.
As stated above, they're not as rare as purples. Generally speaking, they have around the same drop rate as rare recipes (oranges, not purples).

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This just seems like the devs trying to push people into TFs because they weren't being played as much as they wanted. (maybe becuase it's so hard to get a team together !!)
Your suspected rationale is off, but your general observation is correct. During the Going Rogue closed beta, we were flat-out told that the Incarnate system was primarily built around group content -- both the existing TFs and trials, as well as future Incarnate content. Now, it IS possible to work your way through the Alpha slot (dunno about any of the other slots, as they're still in development) using only Incarnate Shards. But it will take much longer to do than running TFs, and this is absolutely by design. If the game is headed toward real end-game raid content, it makes sense to get players used to regularly doing similar content ahead of time.

Sorry you feel so hosed over this, but it's kinda ridiculous to be upset over the developers of a group-based game deciding to favor group-based content over solo content.


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Originally Posted by ABC123 View Post
it's the "occasionally acquired" that sux, so far they have been rarer than purple recipes.
Your perception. Because they really aren't. They're said to be as rare as orange salvage, personally I get the feeling they drop a lot more often.


@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.

 

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Yeah.

More comedy gold from the people that brought you "Incarnate System: an insult to Skilled players"


 

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Originally Posted by TrueMetal View Post
Your perception. Because they really aren't. They're said to be as rare as orange salvage, personally I get the feeling they drop a lot more often.
Like all the treads on purple drop rates the milage seems to vary :-(

It's 11:30 pm in Australia and there were no lvl 50's in oro or PI but me :-( (on CoH Justice) I tried to solo the trapdoor mission with my archer blaster and gave up after 1/2 hour, I just couldn't dent him enuff with all his regen.

I see the same thing in the new GR content the devs egged on by the games uber elites have made the damn things so hard that it is no longer fun.


 

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Like all the treads on purple drop rates the milage seems to vary :-(

It's 11:30 pm in Australia and there were no lvl 50's in oro or PI but me :-( (on CoH Justice) I tried to solo the trapdoor mission with my archer blaster and gave up after 1/2 hour, I just couldn't dent him enuff with all his regen.

I see the same thing in the new GR content the devs egged on by the games uber elites have made the damn things so hard that it is no longer fun.
Did you kill his clones he summons? They give him his regen. Take them out and he's a pushover. If all else fails toss him in the lava. It more than counters his regen.

Think a little. It helps.


@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.

 

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Originally Posted by ABC123 View Post
it's the "occasionally acquired" that sux, so far they have been rarer than purple recipes. I really don't want to farm or grind for what are key components of the game for 50s.

This just seems like the devs trying to push people into TFs because they weren't being played as much as they wanted. (maybe becuase it's so hard to get a team together !!)
Then don't!

Yes. It will take longer to get that uncommon boost. But you'll still get it! Everything so far that a team player can get, a solo player can get.

What's so hard to understand, that teaming will get you rewards faster?

Teaming gets people XP faster too, but you never heard people complain, "Unfair that teams get faster XP gain than me soloing".

Don't want to team, want to solo? Then solo. You will get the reward. It will take longer, but so what, soloing got you to 50 slower...no difference now with incaranate abilities.


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Then don't!

Yes. It will take longer to get that uncommon boost. But you'll still get it! Everything so far that a team player can get, a solo player can get.

What's so hard to understand, that teaming will get you rewards faster?

Teaming gets people XP faster too, but you never heard people complain, "Unfair that teams get faster XP gain than me soloing".

Don't want to team, want to solo? Then solo. You will get the reward. It will take longer, but so what, soloing got you to 50 slower...no difference now with incaranate abilities.
It's not don't want to but can't. Brings up the whole consolidate the servers discussion again.


 

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It's not don't want to but can't. Brings up the whole consolidate the servers discussion again.
Oh well, if it's really that bad on Justice (truthfully I don't know) switch severs

I ran a LGTF, STF, and a Kahn TF started late in the evening.

Kahn TF was the last, and it was started at about 2:30 AM MST (4:30 EST/1:30 AM PST), and I saw quite a few other TFs being formed at those times...this was on Virtue.


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Oh well, if it's really that bad on Justice (truthfully I don't know) switch severs

I ran a LGTF, STF, and a Kahn TF started late in the evening.

Kahn TF was the last, and it was started at about 2:30 AM MST (4:30 EST/1:30 AM PST), and I saw quite a few other TFs being formed at those times...this was on Virtue.
and there is another discussion on the number of slots per server .......

face it the game is old and all these updates are just lipstick on a pig


 

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It's not don't want to but can't. Brings up the whole consolidate the servers discussion again.
Well, let's see.. I just logged on to check the market on a couple characters, and within the span of 5 minutes I saw two ITF's starting up in global channels, one on Virtue and one on Protector, along with a Khan TF.

Tell me again how there is nothing going on and it's impossible to find teams, please..


 

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and there is another discussion on the number of slots per server .......

face it the game is old and all these updates are just lipstick on a pig
and yet you are still here.... Why? I'm here cos I find it fun. Are there no other Aussies playing at your time? Isn't there an unofficial Oceanic server? Try there maybe?


 

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Oh the hardship. Having to team to get something in a multiplayer game. For shame!


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Oh wait.. It's been 4 minutes, and there's another ITF starting up on Virtue. Yep, servers are dead. Impossible to find teams to get these Incarnate components. Might as well quit the game now. DOOM!


 

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Originally Posted by Diggis View Post
and yet you are still here.... Why? I'm here cos I find it fun. Are there no other Aussies playing at your time? Isn't there an unofficial Oceanic server? Try there maybe?
Yes, it's Justice and it is currently dead quite, just after midnight local time.

Luv the way any discussion here degenerates into slagging off at the poster.

btw tried the suggestion of killing the clones, didn't help he just spawned more :-(. I have completed this sucessfully in a team but solo with 3 different blasters no way.

and to rub salt in you can't auto complete the mission.


 

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Originally Posted by ABC123 View Post
Yes, it's Justice and it is currently dead quite, just after midnight local time.

Luv the way any discussion here degenerates into slagging off at the poster.

btw tried the suggestion of killing the clones, didn't help he just spawned more :-(. I have completed this sucessfully in a team but solo with 3 different blasters no way.

and to rub salt in you can't auto complete the mission.

Pull him into the lava or back into the hallway. Pop 3 purples and just go to town on him.