Simple inf making guide for newer players.
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Carnifax_NA,
Posted on: 2010-11-22 10:48 in The Market and Inventions
I spend less than an hour a day at the market, make more than 500M a week, but many people don't like doing what I like doing. They'd rather give me the money to do it for them. Everyone wins!
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
@Boltcutter in game.
Exactly! I can't craft! It drives me nuts. I only craft high cost stuff, and buy the not too expensive stuff already crafted if I can find it! So everyone has a purpose! Maybe I can pay you to craft for me? Lol
I make my inf this way, then hand it to you! Like you said, everybody wins! 
My guide would be
1: Play the Game
2: Sell your Junk on the Market
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
2: Sell your Junk on the Market
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Besides, I think there are laws against selling it...
Cheers,
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I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
There may be laws against you selling it, or even renting it, but it's perfectly legal for you to charge people for watching you use it.
@Roderick
I'd say a multi-pronged approach works best.
My current income per week in game is gotten as so:
1) Marketeering -- approximately 4 hrs a week spent -- income 3.5 billion
2) Amerit Farming -- I am doing 2 toons (both stalkers). Each runs 5 tip missions per day and converts 50 merits on avg every other day. Between then I can build to a 3 billion PvP IO on average every 21 days or so -- time spent (30 mins per toon for 5 tips, 25 mins for an ITF once a night) 10 hrs a week roughly -- lets call this another 1 billion a week.
3) Purples -- running the speed ITF every night once gets me 1 purple pop on average every 10 days or so. Once I get my stalkers to 50 they can pop them ghosting tips too. The run of the mill purple goes for about 125M anymore (even with sleep averaged in!). I've already counted the time but here's another 100M a week or so as bonus
When I was farming for purples I used to make them much quicker. I think I determined I could pop a purple every 75 mins if I worked hard at it. Since Amerit Farming seems more profitable atm I haven't been motivated to do this, yet....but purples keep rising.
4) Other recipes/salvage-- selling the other useful loot has averaged me about 120M a week between the occasional Kin Combat drop and a respec recipe or whatever. This is also free and considered above.
5) Direct Inf drops -- I find I get about 20-25M of these a week from what I listed above....that seems so little but hey I always have prestige turned on.
You can see that per hour spent marketeering is waaaay more profitable than the other kinds. However, you can't really push harder on marketeering....I mean you could add more niches....but then you're squeezing someone out somewhere and after you have a few good niches they might move to a dif one of yours and screw it up. So in general I agree that amerit ghosting is the way to go from a per min stand point right now....especially if you have a group to do fast TF with or a large pile of built up merits to covert along with it.
Hey Roderick! Awesome Hobby! LOL
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It'll be interesting to see how far purple prices fall once I-19 hits. More people will be playing their 50s outside of AE, so supply should go up by a decent amount. We can reasonably assume that whatever exploits are affecting AE farms right now will be fixed at some point too.|
Originally Posted by Enyalios
When I was farming for purples I used to make them much quicker. I think I determined I could pop a purple every 75 mins if I worked hard at it. Since Amerit Farming seems more profitable atm I haven't been motivated to do this, yet....but purples keep rising. |
If both of those things happen at or near the same time, then purples ought to plummet. Then again, the added incentive for people to grind for improvements to their 50s might also spike demand for high-end IOs. In for a penny, in for a pound.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
My guide would be
1: Play the Game 2: Sell your Junk on the Market |
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
Nice build
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Originally Posted by Lascher
K, my guide is mind numbingly simple compared to most!
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I agree, this is by far the easiest way for the average player to make cash right now. I notice that the alternatives other people mentioned might be better for experienced players and marketers, but your method is available to anyone who has managed to get a single toon to level 20. My 8-year old daughter understands how to run tip missions, and she's not going to be able to run TFs or work the market. I don't have time for TFs myself so a-merits have made it possible for me to finally outfit a hero with some of the better (non-purple) enhancements.
As for "play the game and sell your junk" I have been doing that for 7 years, but I found I was making cash at less than 1/10 the rate of a-merit farming. The one exception to that might be grinding my level 50 fire/kin through the same boring AE missions. Tips missions feel a lot more like being a superhero than grinding.
Getting influence is simple at level TWO. Run the tutorial but do not use the inspirations you get. When you enter Atlas, beat up some Hellions to get influence then head to Wentworths and post the Resurgence for as much as you can. This will take care of all your low level enhancements. I had 2 million at level 6 on my scrapper on Protector.
Jim...... I know! I played the game and sold my stuff for years, and only ever managed to io out 1 toon with decent sets. Unless your heavily farming or doing many tf's, just playing the game and selling your stuff ain't gonna cut it. Maybe if you get many real lucky drops, maybe. Now thanks to a-merits tho, I finally have a nice bank account. Still can't purple out a toon, but can get some decent sets now on any toon I want!
I haven't agreed with the direction of this game in general the last couple years....but the a-merit system was a winner for me!
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I'm working on the assumption that supply will increase dramatically while demand stays steady, presuming that many folk will be playing their favorite characters who're already fairly kitted out to get them to the next level of Alpha goodness.
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Originally Posted by Obitus
It'll be interesting to see how far purple prices fall once I-19 hits. More people will be playing their 50s outside of AE, so supply should go up by a decent amount. We can reasonably assume that whatever exploits are affecting AE farms right now will be fixed at some point too.
If both of those things happen at or near the same time, then purples ought to plummet. Then again, the added incentive for people to grind for improvements to their 50s might also spike demand for high-end IOs. In for a penny, in for a pound. |
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If just simply playing the game and selling isn't working then you are doing it wrong.
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Originally Posted by Lascher
Jim...... I know! I played the game and sold my stuff for years, and only ever managed to io out 1 toon with decent sets. Unless your heavily farming or doing many tf's, just playing the game and selling your stuff ain't gonna cut it. Maybe if you get many real lucky drops, maybe. Now thanks to a-merits tho, I finally have a nice bank account. Still can't purple out a toon, but can get some decent sets now on any toon I want!
I haven't agreed with the direction of this game in general the last couple years....but the a-merit system was a winner for me! |
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I was confident that this opinion would be expressed soon, and here it is.|
Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint
If just simply playing the game and selling isn't working then you are doing it wrong.
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I suspect, Sharker, that you do lots of little things to maximize the amount of cash you get. Thus getting money seems easy to you, and you imagine anyone else must be playing badly.
There are many of reasons a player might not be able to make the 500+ million to outfit a character with enhancements like LotG global recharge or +Recovery Numena. A few basic ones include 1) not having enough playtime, 2) not enjoying playing the market, 3) mainly doing missions with friends who are low-level characters, and 4) mainly playing characters who are less than level 50.
I understand you might be surprised to hear that someone who is doing missions and then selling their stuff doesnt make as much money as you normally see. But telling someone else they are doing it wrong makes it look like you simply are locked in your own limited perspective and confusing your opinion with objective fact.
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Well, in written format, sarcasm doesn't translate well. Also, if the person is playing with friends of lower level, they can sell that lower level stuff. Also, if they do not enjoy playing the market, they were given other means to get these "shinies". Also, #4 goes along with #3. Also, #1 goes along with my "other ways to obtain the "shinies""explination.|
Originally Posted by Jim_G
I was confident that this opinion would be expressed soon, and here it is.
I suspect, Sharker, that you do lots of little things to maximize the amount of cash you get. Thus getting money seems easy to you, and you imagine anyone else must be playing badly. There are many of reasons a player might not be able to make the 500+ million to outfit a character with enhancements like LotG global recharge or +Recovery Numena. A few basic ones include 1) not having enough playtime, 2) not enjoying playing the market, 3) mainly doing missions with friends who are low-level characters, and 4) mainly playing characters who are less than level 50. I understand you might be surprised to hear that someone who is doing missions and then selling their stuff doesnt make as much money as you normally see. But telling someone else they are doing it wrong makes it look like you simply are locked in your own limited perspective and confusing your opinion with objective fact. |
Does that break it down enough for you. Damn it Jim, I'm doctor, not a scientist.
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That breaks it down fine, and I'm not a scientist either. ;-)
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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint
Well, in written format, sarcasm doesn't translate well. Also, if the person is playing with friends of lower level, they can sell that lower level stuff. Also, if they do not enjoy playing the market, they were given other means to get these "shinies". Also, #4 goes along with #3. Also, #1 goes along with my "other ways to obtain the "shinies""explination.
Does that break it down enough for you. Damn it Jim, I'm doctor, not a scientist. |
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I have got several toons from 1 to 50, playing the game "simply". By that I mean, no PL'in, no farming, no marketeering and no exploiting.....and no, not one has ended up with enough inf to IO himself completely out, not even close....except maybe to frankenslot. If you are saying you can do what I just described and deck out your toon at 50 with 'decent" sets, solely with the income that toon generated on the way to 50...then you must be a lucky man when it comes to drops. Oh, and I rarely do tf's as well.|
Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint
If just simply playing the game and selling isn't working then you are doing it wrong.
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Considering I bought 5 complete and mediocre sets for a scrapper the other day.....and spent 250mil doing it, I would say good luck making enough to deck out a toon by "simply" playing and selling your loot!
But then again, like I said, some people are just that lucky! I am not one of them!
I have had about 3 purple drops since they were created.
Oh! And good point Jim....I hardly ever, and I mean ever play my 50's, since there is no real end game content....at least none that is any different than the rest of the game. So I mainly play toons I am leveling. Probably explains why I haven't got many purples, but also solidifies my statement, that it is hard for folks like me, and I am assuming Jim, to make lots'o'cash! (mostly leveling toons, not grinding away on 50's.)
And before people say Incarnates are coming, incarnates are coming!!!!!!! I see that whole thing as end game grinding and crafting.....not end game content! yes, 2 TF's....which I may never even see, since my daily play time is limited and interuptable.
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Oh and you said "they were given other means to get these shinies", ummmm, like doing what I describe in my original post?? So why you poopin on my super awesome guide? lol |
Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint
Well, in written format, sarcasm doesn't translate well. Also, if the person is playing with friends of lower level, they can sell that lower level stuff. Also, if they do not enjoy playing the market, they were given other means to get these "shinies". Also, #4 goes along with #3. Also, #1 goes along with my "other ways to obtain the "shinies""explination.
Does that break it down enough for you. Damn it Jim, I'm doctor, not a scientist. |
Alot of newer players may be wondering why everyone is rich but them..... I (and I am sure others before me) have shown them one way, in case they were unaware.
Well, you don't need a lot of cash per say. You just need to be patient and place bids on what you want at the market. There are plenty of guides and people in the game that show newbs how to make money to get what they want.
And some of the other ways of obtaining those "shinies" are tickets, regular reward merits and a-merits.
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I been gone from COH about 3 years, what's an a-merit?
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Originally Posted by Lascher
Jim...... I know! I played the game and sold my stuff for years, and only ever managed to io out 1 toon with decent sets. Unless your heavily farming or doing many tf's, just playing the game and selling your stuff ain't gonna cut it. Maybe if you get many real lucky drops, maybe. Now thanks to a-merits tho, I finally have a nice bank account. Still can't purple out a toon, but can get some decent sets now on any toon I want!
I haven't agreed with the direction of this game in general the last couple years....but the a-merit system was a winner for me! |
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I don't want to come off as rude, but you said A-merits....which is all my post was about, so where are we not seein eye to eye here?? We seem to agree on everything, yet not at all! lol |
Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint
Well, you don't need a lot of cash per say. You just need to be patient and place bids on what you want at the market. There are plenty of guides and people in the game that show newbs how to make money to get what they want.
And some of the other ways of obtaining those "shinies" are tickets, regular reward merits and a-merits. |
And you do need cash, how would one get a few LotG Global recharge io's, let alone over a dozen other complete sets of any kind, with the cash they'd make just playing the game? Again, just playing the game meaning without using any of the ways you suggest to earn inf.....just by "simply playin the game and selling their junk" as someone said....this is all assuming a newer player may not know the better ways, or care for them....like crafting.....I can't stand crafting and selling. The less time I spend in the market the better and many feel the same way I am sure. Or crafted IO's would never sell. Personally, I don't want to have 50 bids on the market, waiting to get lucky to IO out my toons, I want to earn inf and buy them, now! lol So my preferred method is exactly what my opening post explains.
So to quote an old commercial.... where's the beef?
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Or a-merit for short. |
Alignment Merits are a special salvage awarded as part of the Alignment system introduced in Issue 18. There are two types of alignment merits: Hero Alignment Merits and Villain Alignment Merits. There are two ways to obtain alignment merits: Complete Morality Missions as a hero or villain (except for the first time, which awards 50 Reward Merits instead). Purchase at a rate of 50 Reward Merits and 20 million Inf for each Alignment Merit. Alignment Merits can only be earned and possessed while a character maintains their respective alignments (Hero for Hero Alignment Merits, Villain for Villain Alignment Merits). Changing alignments will forfeit all unspent Alignment Merits. Alignment Merits can be spent at Alignment Vendors to purchase most Recipes, including Purple Recipes and PvP Recipes. The Alignment Vendor for heroes is the box next to B.O.T.L.E.R. in Fort Trident. The Alignment Vendor for villains is the trash next to Trashcan in The Crucible. B.O.T.L.E.R. and Trashcan are also the contacts for converting Reward Merits and Inf to Alignment Merits. Once a purchase with Alignment Merits is made, there is a 20 hour timer before another puchase can be made. |
K, my guide is mind numbingly simple compared to most!
- Get 3 or 4 (or however many u want) toons over lvl 20.
- get them invis powers, or use toons with their own invis powers. (ATM I use 3 toons for this....a 33 I'll/rad, a 28 ma/nin stalker and a 38 bane. All quick killers to boot, but use whatever you want, as long as you get invis.)
- set difficulty to -1/0.
- spend 20 minutes or so a day, per toon, doing hero or villain tip missions. Stealthing to objectives and getting out of mish as quick as possible.
- collect 2 A-merits every 4 days and get whatever recipe is selling the best at the time, craft it and put it on the market for the high end of the recent prices, unless u wanna sell quick, then sell low.
-lather rinse repeat.
The end
Now, depending your time to play a day, the more toons you do this with, the quicker you collect all that inf. You spend very little time in front of the auction house menu and you get to spend your time playing instead of crafting or farming (if you prefer those things, then ignore my guide!). I am happy making my 500mil inf a week just doing this, keeps my income at a comfortable level for me anyways. Of course doing this with lvl 50 toons would be better, since you may get purple drops as you go. (raise diff to 0/0 tho)
I know this guide seems common knowledge, or sarcastic(which it isn't meant to be) but I have had a few newer players ask me how to make inf without crafting or farming.....so if a few asked me personally, then their are probably alot of ppl wondering (newer players).
I use the word guide in title so those searching find it, even tho I know it is too simple to be classed as a guide!
Doing this also leaves me plenty of time to just relax and play, which I like! Tho I know it is not going to lvl those toons doing it very fast. Which is fine by me. I have a few other toons that do this casually, depending on my boredom lvl with normal playing at the time. But generally I spend an hour a day or so doing this and have enough inf to do what I want to get done with.