Until they fix the AE, every second is mega-double-xp weekend.
Really? Because I rarely see people flocking to AE like they used to. It's become more of an Inspiration store and occasional place for MA arc teams than a farming tool.
Between "XP smoothing" and Patrol XP, I don't really have much interest in Double XP anymore. I actually find myself turning off XP a fair amount to avoid outleveling things.
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There's a severe exploit active right now I'm told (again).
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Originally Posted by SuperFerret
Really? Because I rarely see people flocking to AE like they used to. It's become more of an Inspiration store and occasional place for MA arc teams than a farming tool.
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...And this, kids, is why we can't have nice things. I wonder how big the outcry would be if they nuked the characters that exploited, like I wish they would?
We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)
I'd have no problem with them being nuked. And a temp ban handed out, too.
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I remember after they nailed the exploiters how a few of them raged while everyone else applauded the GM's actions.
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Originally Posted by Positron Players that have abused the reward system egregiously may lose benefits they have gained - leading up to and perhaps including losing access to the characters power-leveled in this fashion. Players who knowingly use an exploit when creating an arc, run the risk of having access to MA suspended, or worse- depending on the severity of the action, their account banned. Players who have a story arc banned for any reason, will have it continue to use up one of their publishing slots. Players will NOT be able to unpublish this slot without Customer Services help. This sets up a three strikes and youre out policy. If an individual gets three story arcs banned, they will no longer be able to publish since their slots will all be used up with banned arcs. |
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Originally Posted by Jophiel
Until they fix the AE, every second is mega-double-xp weekend.
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Originally Posted by SuperFerret
Really? Because I rarely see people flocking to AE like they used to. It's become more of an Inspiration store and occasional place for MA arc teams than a farming tool.
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I never understood why this could be a reason not to have Double XP weekends. *shrugs*|
Originally Posted by Jophiel
Until they fix the AE, every second is mega-double-xp weekend.
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Think of it this way: At best the only thing that 2 days of 2x XP could do for ANYONE (whether they are exploiting some kind of AE trick or not) is allow them to do in 2 days what ANYONE could normally do in 4 days. Sure it's cheesy that anyone could be taking advantage of an AE exploit regardless. But if those people are doing that anyway what would it really matter if they get to do it "faster" for 2 days? Why should everyone get screwed out of the chance for a Double XP weekend just to "indirectly punish" a few people exploiting the game?
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I think it also depends on what server a person is on.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
You must not spend any time in Atlas.
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AE didn't get double XP, on double XP weekends.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
I never understood why this could be a reason not to have Double XP weekends. *shrugs*
Think of it this way: At best the only thing that 2 days of 2x XP could do for ANYONE (whether they are exploiting some kind of AE trick or not) is allow them to do in 2 days what ANYONE could normally do in 4 days. Sure it's cheesy that anyone could be taking advantage of an AE exploit regardless. But if those people are doing that anyway what would it really matter if they get to do it "faster" for 2 days? Why should everyone get screwed out of the chance for a Double XP weekend just to "indirectly punish" a few people exploiting the game? |
I think the point was more, people are getting way more XP with AE, than they would with double XP.
And yes, you could get in 4 days what you could get in 2 days, but during double xp weekends, at least from what I notice, there are even MORE teams going on, which are more heavily looking for others to join their teams.
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One could also ask why should the devs reward a few players that use the exploits, or tempt normally innocent players into breaking the exploitation rules by running a 2xp weekend before these exploits are fixed and then punishing them for being weak.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
I never understood why this could be a reason not to have Double XP weekends. *shrugs*
Think of it this way: At best the only thing that 2 days of 2x XP could do for ANYONE (whether they are exploiting some kind of AE trick or not) is allow them to do in 2 days what ANYONE could normally do in 4 days. Sure it's cheesy that anyone could be taking advantage of an AE exploit regardless. But if those people are doing that anyway what would it really matter if they get to do it "faster" for 2 days? Why should everyone get screwed out of the chance for a Double XP weekend just to "indirectly punish" a few people exploiting the game? |
So I'd much rather wait until after the AE is fixed.
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Whatever the details the general concept of not having a Double XP weekend in order to "prevent" people from getting "too much" XP for two days is fundamentally silly.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
AE didn't get double XP, on double XP weekends.
I think the point was more, people are getting way more XP with AE, than they would with double XP. And yes, you could get in 4 days what you could get in 2 days, but during double xp weekends, at least from what I notice, there are even MORE teams going on, which are more heavily looking for others to join their teams. |
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Sure I'd like to see it fixed too ASAP. But until then the idea that it should be the main reason to suspend Double XP weekends is laughable on the face of it. *shrugs*
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
One could also ask why should the devs reward a few players that use the exploits, or tempt normally innocent players into breaking the exploitation rules by running a 2xp weekend before these exploits are fixed and then punishing them for being weak.
So I'd much rather wait until after the AE is fixed. |
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You may be right that were getting way more cuz I remember people claiming they were getting 2xp on the last double xp weekend.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
AE didn't get double XP, on double XP weekends.
I think the point was more, people are getting way more XP with AE, than they would with double XP. |
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Not everyone has the same point of view on the subject. Ultimately the final decision is up to the devs.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
Sure I'd like to see it fixed too ASAP. But until then the idea that it should be the main reason to suspend Double XP weekends is laughable on the face of it. *shrugs*
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Obviously it's the Devs' decision. I just can't see a viable argument for why getting "too much" XP for 2 days (via any method) would be game-breaking. There are people out there who can PL characters from levels 1 to 50 in a few days WITHOUT AE and they've been able to do that for years. Who are the Devs actually punishing with this moratorium on the Double XP weekends?|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Not everyone has the same point of view on the subject. Ultimately the final decision is up to the devs.
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I just think it's sad all thing considered...
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While it is totally out of control on Freedom, I also see 'em on Triumph, which is on the low-ish end of the population spectrum.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I think it also depends on what server a person is on.
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I was genuinely shocked they didn't slap it down during the last maintenance.
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It's not, really. It was more just me finding it a little funny that the question of "Double XP" would come up or that it would appeal to a lot of people when the AE thing has been going on for weeks now without a fix. I admit that it doesn't actually address the "Double XP" issue.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I never understood why this could be a reason not to have Double XP weekends. *shrugs*
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No one is being punished. Holding off on a special event that they usually only throw out when theres a lull between events and issues or as a perk to a reactivation weekend isn't a punishment. |
Originally Posted by Lothic
Who are the Devs actually punishing with this moratorium on the Double XP weekends?
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We've had a busy year that's kept most of us excited.
1. Free transfers at the end of the Winter Event in January.
2. Then the Spring Event.
3. Then Issue 17 and Ultra-Mode.
4. Then the Going Rogue Pre-Purchase with early access to two new power sets.
5. Then Issue 18 and Going Rogue itself with more free transfers.
6. Then the Halloween Event.
7. Soon to be released I19.
8. Shortly after that the next Winter Event.
I'll take a year like this last one over a 2xp weekend anytime.
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I'm going out on a limb and guessing this has to do with whatever they use as their release management sytem. They'd need to create a branch release based on the current live code with the correction in place. They'd have to QC that branch to make sure they didn't accidentally load something they weren't supposed to (probably something from either I19 or even something further down the pike). Then they'd have to get it in the NCSoft deployment pipeline in front of I19 - this used to be a big pain when Cryptic was doing the coding, but maybe it's easier now that they're a subsidiary.|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
While it is totally out of control on Freedom, I also see 'em on Triumph, which is on the low-ish end of the population spectrum.
I was genuinely shocked they didn't slap it down during the last maintenance. |
And all that assumes there's no resource bottleneck. In reality they might have to delay I19 if they did all that.
Release management for complex software systems is a pain. I need to get up at 3 AM to help deploy a release on a Sunday morning, so I have some experience with this.
(I have no idea what tools or processes PS uses, however. I'm offering what seems to me like a reasonable hypothetical explanation for why they haven't addressed it ahead of I19. I fully expect it to be addressed when I19 lands.)
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
While it is totally out of control on Freedom, I also see 'em on Triumph, which is on the low-ish end of the population spectrum.
I was genuinely shocked they didn't slap it down during the last maintenance. |
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Well, we did have a double XP weekend this year.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
No one is being punished. Holding off on a special event that they usually only throw out when theres a lull between events and issues or as a perk to a reactivation weekend isn't a punishment.
We've had a busy year that's kept most of us excited. 1. Free transfers at the end of the Winter Event in January. 2. Then the Spring Event. 3. Then Issue 17 and Ultra-Mode. 4. Then the Going Rogue Pre-Purchase with early access to two new power sets. 5. Then Issue 18 and Going Rogue itself with more free transfers. 6. Then the Halloween Event. 7. Soon to be released I19. 8. Shortly after that the next Winter Event. I'll take a year like this last one over a 2xp weekend anytime. |
When Dual Pistols became available to pre-orders, Double XP weekend started like 2 or 3 days later.
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I'd be all for a DXPWE, but you know, with all that is happening, I would rather i19 comes out. I've been having fun already, but it'd be even more fun when i19 goes live.
I am not really looking forwards to the Winter Event, because unless they have something new this year I don't have alot to do on that. Also, it kills teaming for anything else, because people are so set to get the winter awards.
So when you have the time Devs, bring on the DXPWE, but until then, I'm fine with you guys working hard on the next Issue. Good Job!
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Another Double XP Weekend does not seem to be planned for anytime soon. I'm not saying we deserve it or are owed one, just noting that it's been a while now, longer than usual since the last one in March of this year. I'm just beginning to wonder if we will see one again, and how long we might have to wait for it.
At this point, if there is another one, it looks like it will probably not occur until around February or March of next year, which would be the longest spell we've gone without one, longer than the almost 8-month span between them in June 2007 and February 2008.
Is there still a place for Double XP Weekends in this game? Have we gotten to the point where such an event doesn't really serve the same purpose that it used to?