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She has ALL the PvP IOs of course!
Each mughancer of tears cost more than 2B.


 

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No reply to this question: Probably speed reading again...
That's a charitable way to look at it. Earlier when I posted I even PM'd him to take a look at this post and respond, and he ignored it. I think he simply ignores anything that challenges his preconceptions.


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He hasn't responded in awhile, think our logic finally won over?


 

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I can't spend large amounts of time playing the game when I have work and school. And if necessary, aren't there sites where you can purchase Influence?
Among all the other reasons given that it's a bad idea to use these kinds of services (you know, like that it's against the rules and they're historically bad about ripping you off), I've never once understood why anyone would pay someone else to play the game for them.

It gets back to the idea of enjoying the journey. Yeah, it's fun to run around on a tricked out 50 and kick *** left, right and center. But you know what I think is even more fun?

Knowing I got there myself.


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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
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My big objection to those people is this:

There has never been a single documented case of anyone hijacking an account, in this MMO or any other, unless they were motivated by the potential of acquiring real-world money from it in some way, which is possible only if RMT exists.

These people are the sole motivation of a great deal of malware, keyloggers, and more, and I can't comprehend supporting them in any way.


 

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My big objection to those people is this:

There has never been a single documented case of anyone hijacking an account, in this MMO or any other, unless they were motivated by the potential of acquiring real-world money from it in some way, which is possible only if RMT exists.

These people are the sole motivation of a great deal of malware, keyloggers, and more, and I can't comprehend supporting them in any way.
Not always true...I know a couple of people who had broken up with significant others and lost either the account or had been looted because it wasn't a friendly split.


 

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Not always true...I know a couple of people who had broken up with significant others and lost either the account or had been looted because it wasn't a friendly split.
didn't a case like that lead to a change in our own logoff protocal?

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Okay, fair enough. Still, the vast majority (>99%) are motivated by RMT scumbags. Also nearly all the MMO-related spam, etc.


 

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RMT? Regie voor Maritiem Transport? Reliable Multicast Transport? Ready Made Trains? Registered Massage Therapist? Rockville Musical Theater?!


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He hasn't responded in awhile, think our logic finally won over?

Bahahah, nope. I don't. Has it ever?


 

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Bahahah, nope. I don't. Has it ever?
There have been a few times however those people didn't start off as entrenched in a flawed position when they posted and they didn't ignore/insult/complain with the first few responses.

Or to put it another way they actually came in with an open mind though they were unhappy with what they saw going on in the market.


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This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

 

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I appreciate the feedback. I was not aware that purchasing influence from 3rd parties was a violation of the Terms & Conditions. As a practice of good citizenship, I do work up to larger influences through missioning and selling @ Consignments. Personally, I think its unnecessary to give lower level toons Crafted-IOs when they haven't reached 50 because its a waste of influence, but that's just my opinion.

But once you get to level 50 (unless there's an event) activity seems to decrease, which is one reason that the Architect Edition was implemented. You go to PI or RWZ and all you see through Broadcast is things like: "lvl 50 def LFT" or "are there any mission teams"and so forth. So unless you have a solo'ng capable archetype or happen to log into the game and find a team, your chances for collecting rare recipes and IO's is slim.


 

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I appreciate the feedback. I was not aware that purchasing influence from 3rd parties was a violation of the Terms & Conditions. As a practice of good citizenship, I do work up to larger influences through missioning and selling @ Consignments. Personally, I think its unnecessary to give lower level toons Crafted-IOs when they haven't reached 50 because its a waste of influence, but that's just my opinion.

But once you get to level 50 (unless there's an event) activity seems to decrease, which is one reason that the Architect Edition was implemented. You go to PI or RWZ and all you see through Broadcast is things like: "lvl 50 def LFT" or "are there any mission teams"and so forth. So unless you have a solo'ng capable archetype or happen to log into the game and find a team, your chances for collecting rare recipes and IO's is slim.
I think your problem is you don't know how to find teams. I can find teams at any hour of the day.


 

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But once you get to level 50 (unless there's an event) activity seems to decrease, which is one reason that the Architect Edition was implemented. You go to PI or RWZ and all you see through Broadcast is things like: "lvl 50 def LFT" or "are there any mission teams"and so forth. So unless you have a solo'ng capable archetype or happen to log into the game and find a team, your chances for collecting rare recipes and IO's is slim.
I think you may be suffering from a lack of exposure to the fact that a lot of 50s are off finding and forming teams via other measures. Zone broadcast is not where the action is at these days, because most people are not spending time in open zones. If you aren't already in them, ask around for the popular global chat channels for your server; you can ask about them in the server-specific forums. Honestly, even more team forming probably happens in more private/specific channels or in super-group chat, but looking for people to team with in the more public global channels is a good way to meet people who may end up inviting you to a private channel or a SG.

I can tell you that, for the people I hang out with, it's possible that playing at 50 is where most of the teaming and playing is done.


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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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I belong to about 8 or 9 channels not counting coalition chat. Almost always, that's where I get my teams. Broadcast is sort of a last resort for me. I do use it, but only when I have trouble finding a team in channel.

Are you in a super group or villain group?


 

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I think your problem is you don't know how to find teams. I can find teams at any hour of the day.
I appreciate that you have been enlightened about what my "problem" is, Chaos. Please allow me to express what I think about your statement. Simply, you don't know what you are talking about. You can log onto the busiest of servers, Virtue and Freedom and those comments get posted in Broadcast. I would go on to say that there may be others that feel as I do, but won't spend the time to debate the issue in a forum because truly they don't care.

There are a good deal of players who have lives (i.e. work, family, school, etc.) outside of the game, so they are not going to log in at different points of the day to try and find a team. Unfortunately, when they have the chance to, they will see those statements and may even say the same thing. Don't assume that your success rate of finding a team is another person's issue.

When there are other variables at play, such as expansions, events, the awaiting of i19 for example, the amount of game activity will increase. But when the excitement has grown old, activity decreases. An alternative is joining an active SG where you don't have to worry about finding a team, because the members have their own internal events. Yet, you have a portion of COH/COV's population who are not apart of any SG or VG.


 

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I appreciate that you have been enlightened about what my "problem" is, Chaos. Please allow me to express what I think about your statement. Simply, you don't know what you are talking about. You can log onto the busiest of servers, Virtue and Freedom and those comments get posted in Broadcast. I would go on to say that there may be others that feel as I do, but won't spend the time to debate the issue in a forum because truly they don't care.

There are a good deal of players who have lives (i.e. work, family, school, etc.) outside of the game, so they are not going to log in at different points of the day to try and find a team. Unfortunately, when they have the chance to, they will see those statements and may even say the same thing. Don't assume that your success rate of finding a team is another person's issue.

When there are other variables at play, such as expansions, events, the awaiting of i19 for example, the amount of game activity will increase. But when the excitement has grown old, activity decreases. An alternative is joining an active SG where you don't have to worry about finding a team, because the members have their own internal events. Yet, you have a portion of COH/COV's population who are not apart of any SG or VG.
Again, you've ignored global channels, the place where teams get formed.


 

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I belong to about 8 or 9 channels not counting coalition chat. Almost always, that's where I get my teams. Broadcast is sort of a last resort for me. I do use it, but only when I have trouble finding a team in channel.

Are you in a super group or villain group?
For what it's worth, I can't remember the last time I even paid attention to broadcast. And I don't even belong to a bona-fide Supergroup (all my SG mates left long ago, on both servers, which left me the bases -- and so I don't want to leave them ).

Triumph Watch (and/or Triumph Watch 2), and JFA2010 (IIRC that's the name of the one on Justice) get me all the team offers I'd ever want or need. Global channels really are the way to go.


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For what it's worth, I can't remember the last time I even paid attention to broadcast. And I don't even belong to a bona-fide Supergroup (all my SG mates left long ago, on both servers, which left me the bases -- and so I don't want to leave them ).

Triumph Watch (and/or Triumph Watch 2), and JFA2010 (IIRC that's the name of the one on Justice) get me all the team offers I'd ever want or need. Global channels really are the way to go.
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There are a good deal of players who have lives (i.e. work, family, school, etc.) outside of the game, so they are not going to log in at different points of the day to try and find a team. Unfortunately, when they have the chance to, they will see those statements and may even say the same thing. Don't assume that your success rate of finding a team is another person's issue.
Also, it's not that hard to create a team yourself. All you need is a few other people who're also looking for a team just like you. A few binds that politely ask $target if they would like to team with you helps too.

What server do you like to play on?


btw, I have work family and school


 

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But once you get to level 50 (unless there's an event) activity seems to decrease, which is one reason that the Architect Edition was implemented. You go to PI or RWZ and all you see through Broadcast is things like: "lvl 50 def LFT" or "are there any mission teams"and so forth. So unless you have a solo'ng capable archetype or happen to log into the game and find a team, your chances for collecting rare recipes and IO's is slim.
Nonsense.

I just got my first purple drop last night. My highest level character is level 35. My level 31 tank grouped with a friend and got a purple drop.

The thing about teams is... You can make them. I got sick of lft, so I just decided to do a mish. Then I decided to ask if anyone wanted to come along. Ten minutes later I had a full 8-person team and we started steamrolling missions.


 

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This is a serious question.

How much time do you think it takes, per day, to make, say, a billion inf per month purely though marketing, without selling any drops etc? That's actual hands-on playing time I'm looking for -- the time the marketing character is being actively played and carrying out the bidding, crafting and selling activities?


ETA: I appreciate that you don't want to spend *any* time on the market at all, which is obviously your prerogative. But if we're generalizing this to these hypothetical new players, then I think we have to take people who *might* be willing to use the market into account.
Okay, I have never actually done any pure marketeering. I mean, you ruled out selling drops. The closest I have come is when i realized after a couple months in game you could buy level 40-50 enhancers for nothing and sell them for 10k a pop, so after that my starting alts never had cash problems. That took maybe a half hour including all bidding to the store finish.

I saw that LOTG recipes are selling for slightly over 130 mil, and the crafted is selling for 150 mil, so there is probably 10 mil a piece to be made in these transactions. I would do the math and post the estimated time. Unfortunately, at this point I feel in thi forum 1) People would scream how slow I am at doing this, and therefore stupid. 2) People would tell me this is a dumb place to try to make money, and point out the 2 billion they make per day in their "niche", and therefore I am stupid.

But, to reiterate, I really do not enjoy the auctioneering. I play the game do develop characters and fight stuff.


 

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Again, you've ignored global channels, the place where teams get formed.
And again, Chaos, your conclusion is incorrect!!! There is little chance of you knowing what my behavior patterns in game play are. I never said that I personally had an issue with finding teams. But based upon observation and interaction with other players, my statements are based upon that. Two billion in Influence may seem like a lot for people who play intermittently or within schedule constraints. When you consider how variables such as time and frequency of game play may factor in with rate of finding teams, the dynamics of individual playing experience changes.

Until a public opinion poll is established or statistical evidence is found to support your view, it is your perspective versus mine.


 

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But, to reiterate, I really do not enjoy the auctioneering. I play the game do develop characters and fight stuff.
One of my CoH friends feels roughly the same way you do. He just likes to, in his words, "punch dudes." So he focuses on that, and his characters end up pretty decently set up, maybe not full sets of PvP IOs, but they're plenty ridiculously overpowered. He doesn't have all that much money, but you get a fair number of purples over time if you spend a lot of time "punching dudes" at level 50, especially running x4 or x5 solo. And if you just sell the stuff you don't need, you end up with enough money to fill in some gaps.

Also, if you have multiple 50s, any given rare drop is a lot more likely to be useful to at least one of them.