Titan Network Presents: Titan Sentinel
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Posted on: 2010-11-07 15:28 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
The long-term plan is to add some social networking features to the sites, but I don't want us to get ahead of ourselves here...
We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)
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All I'm getting is a text in the status bar that says "There was an error applying updates." The program seems to work fine despite this.
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Originally Posted by TonyV
Can you please either post a message on our support forum or PM me or GuyPerfect with the error, maybe even a screenshot, you're receiving? We're logging tech support issues like this to be investigated and hopefully quickly fixed.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Maybe it's not for you, and that's fine.
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Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
...and if you're looking for more then it may not be of any use to you.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
They can display to the forums about their online status via dynamic singature and avatar images.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Titan Sentinel specifically also allows players to document their character builds in a quick and easy way, which turns out to be WAY more well-received than I'd expected.
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Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
I use it as a badge checklist for my badger, as I'm always losing track of what I've already got, what I still need to get, and the 'Low Hanging Fruit' is one of my favourite aspects: a list of badges that I haven't earned yet, with the 'easiest', most common ones at the top.
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Is there a feature that filters these for the power granting accolades and their requisites? I only have one "badger," but I'm always interested in getting my +HP and +end on any character.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Titan Network has some other projects in the works that will hopefully strike gold in other niches when they're ready, just like this one has.
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Where to now?
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A possibly silly question from someone who hasn't used City Info Tracker before but how do you get it and Titan Sentinel to start tracking characters? I've just created a Titan account, added my main as a character on the Tracker website, launched Sentinel and the game and am now scratching my head wondering what next?
Update: Ignore me - I thought to launch the program as administrator and now it's tracking my character 
Great stuff!
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Is this CIT only or will it work for badgehunter too?
Thank you very much for your work - cant wait to download it
I don't suffer from altitis, I enjoy every minute of it.
Thank you Devs & Community people for a great game.
So sad to be ending ):
Tried this tonight and it worked beautifully. Very nice work there!
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Simply amazing! Can't wait to get home to try it!
So... uhmmm... I have a dumb question.
I have never used badgehunter or CIT or HeroStats... I have used Mids...
But THIS little program looks very interesting to me.
My question is, do I need the other programs for this to work? or is it a "stand alone" product?
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Don�t say things. What you are stands over you the while, and thunders so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary. - R.W. Emerson |
YUMMY Low-Hanging Fruit for BASE LUV
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Badgehunter is operated by different people, so this won't be updating your badgehunter stats.|
Originally Posted by Gaderath
Is this CIT only or will it work for badgehunter too?
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Originally Posted by Impish Kat
My question is, do I need the other programs for this to work? or is it a "stand alone" product?
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You need not have Herostats for this to work. I've never touched it.
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This pretty much sums it up for me, too, though I honestly don't keep up with the CIT part for too long. I go in phases.|
Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
I think it really differs from person to person, and if you're looking for more then it may not be of any use to you.
I use it as a badge checklist for my badger, as I'm always losing track of what I've already got, what I still need to get, and the 'Low Hanging Fruit' is one of my favourite aspects: a list of badges that I haven't earned yet, with the 'easiest', most common ones at the top. I also use it as a method of 'filing' my characters, but that's just a personal thing. Since a young age I've always had a thing for sorting things out and taking a note of information in tables, charts, and that kind of thing, so having it done for me is somewhat satisfying. |
The build export, though...
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Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
Badgehunter is operated by different people, so this won't be updating your badgehunter stats.
CIT is a website, rather than a program. Unless I'm mistaken, this tracker will add your characters to CIT as you play them and once you've logged in. (Unless you can turn CIT tracking off? I haven't looked) You need not have Herostats for this to work. I've never touched it. |
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The badgehunter option works for both, and they (CIT and BH) are both websites...
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Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
Badgehunter is operated by different people, so this won't be updating your badgehunter stats.
CIT is a website, rather than a program. Unless I'm mistaken, this tracker will add your characters to CIT as you play them and once you've logged in. (Unless you can turn CIT tracking off? I haven't looked) You need not have Herostats for this to work. I've never touched it. |
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I know both are websites, but I was under the impression that BadgeHunter operated outside of the Titan Network, and Sentinel would not communicate with BadgeHunter. Am I mistaken? My apologies if I am.
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Originally Posted by Gaderath
The badgehunter option works for both, and they (CIT and BH) are both websites...
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No, you're right. Titan Sentinel will not send badges to BadgeHunter. HeroStats does, but not Titan Sentinel, and BadgeHunter is not a Titan Network site.
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Originally Posted by TonyV
We've already discussed this and figured out how to get the program to trigger the UAC instead of requiring users to do the right-click-run-as-administrator thing. Hopefully that will make it in by the next minor version release. It will definitely need to be run with elevated privileges, though, since it reads the client process to get your character information--something forbidden to apps without elevation, since it could be a security risk if it were a malicious app.
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That seems a bit concerning from an EULA/TOS point of view, are you sure we're allowed to do that? I know at least one MMO has been pretty aggressively hostile to anything that even TRIES to snoop on the client process.
As a secondary question: As a sop to us poor paranoids, is there any chance you could release the source code, so we can stare at it and convince ourselves that we trust it?
Please don't take this as implying that I have any reason to believe that you aren't trustworthy, but I have thus far, so far as I know, successfully avoided viruses and the like for twenty-some years, and one of my core tactics has been a level of habitual distrust which many people would regard as paranoia. (Well, at least, which many people say they regard as paranoia; it may be that they don't actually think that, but are saying it for malicious purposes not known to me.)
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Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
I know both are websites, but I was under the impression that BadgeHunter operated outside of the Titan Network, and Sentinel would not communicate with BadgeHunter. Am I mistaken? My apologies if I am.
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HeroStats will continue to work for BadgeHunter since it also exists outside of the Titan Network (not that we don't occasionally work with HeroStats). No change there.
Sentinel, on the other hand, does not report badges to BadgeHunter. Glycerine didn't do that either, so that's not really a change.
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Well, there aren't actually any log files to look at. (HeroStats doesn't use log files either, by the way. And since Glycerine was built off of the HeroStats DLLs, it also didn't use log files.)|
Originally Posted by seebs
Oh, so it's actually snooping in memory, not looking at log files?
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| As a secondary question: As a sop to us poor paranoids, is there any chance you could release the source code, so we can stare at it and convince ourselves that we trust it? |
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| Please don't take this as implying that I have any reason to believe that you are trustworthy, but I have thus far, so far as I know, successfully avoided viruses and the like for twenty-some years, and one of my core tactics has been a level of habitual distrust which many people would regard as paranoia. (Well, at least, which many people say they regard as paranoia; it may be that they don't actually think that, but are saying it for malicious purposes not known to me.) |
But from the development perspective, this wasn't an open-source project and a lot of time and effort has been spent on getting it working. It's understandable that a developer working on a project that like that doesn't wants someone else to come along, copy the code they slaved over, slap a new name on it, and call it their own work.
The Players' Guide to the Cities
First off, awesome. I want to make that clear because of what I'm gonna ask next. I hate to sound like that kid at Christmas who says, "Where's the rest?" My brother got his hot wheels taken away on Christmas morning for that one (Haha, that's what you get for shooting me with the BB gun). But I digress. These stat/badge/info trackers can track influence/infamy and things like that. Any thought into including, or is it even possible to include, merits? I'd love to be able to check city tracker and see which of my toons is closest to my next recipe so I can hop on that one for a TF. I've tried keeping track myself on a word document, or better, a spreadsheet, but I'm too lazy to keep updating it. And yes, I realize what just came out of my mouth. But it's true of the rest of ya too, admit it.
Love this program, no doubts about it. It's awesome. I didn't even really use glycerine because I never remembered to open it all the time, and I had to update my badges manually. I'm not quite savvy enough to understand the instructions given on how to update badges already earned on glycerine. Such a pain. Now this does it for me. Just wondering if it'd be easy to add merits into the tracker.
Actually recording and displaying things like merits on CIT will have to be incorporated in to the CIT upgrades, but that's not a half bad idea.
Might not make the first set of changes to CIT, but it's certainly worth looking into.
The Players' Guide to the Cities
If you could pull that rabbit outta your hat, I would laud you copiously for days on end. Personally, tracking my merits would be more handy than influence, levels, powers, (pretty much everything combined with the exception of badges, but badges are still second place).
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WINE is supposed to implement those Windows-specific system calls for Linux, so if things aren't working, it means either WINE isn't programmed right, or Windows is letting you get away with things it shouldn't.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Titan Sentinel uses a lot of Windows-specific system calls, so I'm not surprised that it may not work on... well, not-Windows. Even if GetDC() did the trick, I'd honestly be surprised if ReadProcessMemory() works.
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I thought hero stats looked at log files -- at least, that was my understanding from the instructions to make sure chat logging was on and so on.
As to source, I'm obviously biased since I work on essentially nothing BUT open source. I am, however, a HUGE fan of the open source model. I wouldn't expect people to try to steal something like this -- but I would expect them to offer code contributions, patches, and the like.
I used to be pretty active in the third-party mod community for another game, which required by policy and by implementation that you get source for all mods. In five years I never once heard of someone trying to "steal" code. For the most part, the only people who can code enough to even try to lift the code would be respectful of it. There's also the point that you can publish code without releasing it as open source.
Anyway, I guess I don't entirely blame them for being concerned about it, but I don't think I'll run anything that needs admin privs, comes from a third party I have no business relationship with, and has no available source. It just seems like a bad precedent for me to set.
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Dare I even imagine...could this eventually be expanded to include salvage?
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Originally Posted by B_Samson
Actually recording and displaying things like merits on CIT will have to be incorporated in to the CIT upgrades, but that's not a half bad idea.
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Fantastic, can't wait to try it out.