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Unless otherwise posted, I imagine he is Primal Earth Nemesis from the future.|
Originally Posted by GreenFIame
So if he is a Version of Nemesis, then which Nemesis is he, the one before he became evil, The same Nemesis we battle today, Nemesis form another Dimension like the Shadow Shard or is he the Praetorian Version of Nemesis.
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And still evil. I really wanna stress that part!
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i suppose that could lead to a whole separate thread as to what really makes a superhero, themselves or the people they protect. tyrant was called into absolute power by a fearful people who willingly abdicated responsibility. states has thus far been restrained, but that could be because the people havent tried to make him a tyrant. (reichs i dont know the story of well) but perhaps the hero is only as great as the of the choices of his people.
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Originally Posted by McNum
You're saying that as if that's supposed to stop us from being suspicious of Statesman. Our Statesman is the ONLY known Marcus Cole that isn't evil. That's more than enough to be suspicious of him. Especially since one is a Nazi and the other a dictator.
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eh, good and evil are lables applied after the fact, people are what their actions are. if silos's actions are different than nemesis' actions, then i dont see the label still sticking.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Unless otherwise posted, I imagine he is Primal Earth Nemesis from the future.
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One thing that might show Silos isn't evil is the fact that the Menders are the ones we get access to the alpha slot from - it'd be kinda weird if every hero had to unlock this new level of power via an evil organization.
@Golden Girl
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Don't assume the Coming Storm is some end-all apocalypse just becuase Mender Silos says so. Pillar Man suggests it's actually a good thing and that the only reason Silos is trying to prevent it is because he's trying to cover his hiney and doesn't want his secret to get out.
Pillar Man is recruiting a team of both good and evil supers to counter the antics of Silos and his Ouroboros Menders. His approach may raise ethical concerns, but put them side by side and Pillar Man is the good guy, not Silos.
That's assuming the letter writer isn't telling us lies 
@Golden Girl
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Pillar Man brings THAT up too, interestingly enough. He points out the discrepancy of how Mender Silos says "the end is near, do what I say or die," whereas Pillar Man says "the choice is yours: I won't force you to do anything, but I suggest that you ask yourself what's going on."
Some things Pillar Man has mentioned:
- What is the Coming Storm and why hasn't Ouroboros told us what it is?
- Why doesn't Ouroboros send us into the future more than a couple times?
- If Ouroboros is so blatantly violating the laws of time and space, why are they so concerned about fixing the past?
- Silos wants us to follow him blindly, but Pillar Man is the only one who gives us choice.
Going by the I19 sceenshots we've seen so far, it doesn't look like breaking down Ouroboros is such a nice idea
@Golden Girl
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Either that, or Silos's karma finally caught up with him. (-:
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Originally Posted by Flarstux
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Lame Reminder Mermen Dialer Elm Remainder Marine Melder Men Are Milder Dire Realm Men Lame Red Miner Meander Miler Arm, Lend Me Ire Red Enamel Rim Dreamer In Elm I'm Red Marlene |
And I have GOT to find something to use with "Arm, Lend me Ire!"
The coming storm is a result of us abusing the power of the incarnates. By "speeding up" our path into the incarnate pools, they are infact speeding up their own plans for well to to activate some form of self defence and attempt to destroy us thus leaving us vulnerable to attack from the menders.
Well, thats my theory anyway Whether its any good or not . . . . . well it does sound like a "silos" plot!
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Or Mender Ramiel could be working to his own agenda, and not totally obeying Silos.
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Send Sir Elmo|
Originally Posted by GreenFIame
See that trick only works on Mender Silos. but nice try.
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I was thinking more along the lines of Super Grover, but a Broadsword Tank like Sir Elmo might be just the hero needed...
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Originally Posted by Flarstux
Send Sir Elmo
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"How do you know you are on the side of good?" a Paragon citizen asked him. "How can we even know what is 'good'?"
"The Most High has spoken, even with His own blood," Melancton replied. "Surely we know."
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Praetorian Nemesis was a simple toymaker, who by now would have died long before the game timeline from old age.
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Originally Posted by Dark Lost
Guys I think we just found Praetorian Nemesis.
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Goodbye. Not to the game, but the players. Goodbye. Everyone, remember to have fun. That's all I can say.
meal reminder
and I'm off to eat
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It is not the abilities that have changed, just their mentalities.|
Originally Posted by Terminal Velocity
Praetorian Nemesis was a simple toymaker, who by now would have died long before the game timeline from old age.
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The original Nemesis may have died, but that doesn't mean somebody isn't utilizing his genius from then to make him/herself powerful now.
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Look at that. A full-grown woman pulling off pigtails. Her crazy is off the charts.
before he died he made a robot son who wants to be a real boy. Now his robot son has taken up his work and is the new nemesis.
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Well, we only know of three, out of a presumably infinite number of Earths. I'm sure on most Earths, Marcus Cole was just some guy.|
Originally Posted by McNum
You're saying that as if that's supposed to stop us from being suspicious of Statesman. Our Statesman is the ONLY known Marcus Cole that isn't evil. That's more than enough to be suspicious of him. Especially since one is a Nazi and the other a dictator.
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Actually, on most Earths, human life probably never evolved. But we're not that interested in those.
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Isn't Reichsman's shtick that he's supposed to have already sucked up the power of other worlds' Statesman equivalents?
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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Right, this time the football won't be yanked away.| But Silos might not be the Nemesis - he could be an alternative version than never went bad. |
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| It is a heroes job to save everyone no matter how far they have fallen. |
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Oh wait, they weren't.
What leads to taking justice into your own hands is believing the world is wrong and you are right and only you can fix everything. Whether or not you believe a given offender is irredeemable doesn't matter. Human history is littered with examples of people who went beyond salvage, too many for the history books. We can just cut to the Godwin and go with Hitler. What would Hitler have to do to atone for his actions? An apology is not going to cut it, not even with roses and chocolates. Six million Hail Marys? Nope. No one responsible for the destruction of human life on that scale could possibly do anything to make up for it, and anyone who would ever trust such a person again is a sucker.
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"And I say now these kittens, they do not get trained/As we did in the days when Victoria reigned!" -- T. S. Eliot, "Gus, the Theatre Cat"
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Originally Posted by Flarstux
I'm So Slender
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(I Mend Losers is also pretty good.)
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Well drat, the Slenderman has infiltrated Ouroboros. This will not end well.
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Originally Posted by Flarstux
I'm So Slender
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Yeah, that is what the records say...
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Originally Posted by Terminal Velocity
Praetorian Nemesis was a simple toymaker, who by now would have died long before the game timeline from old age.
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The new Mender Ramiel arc might give us a few more clues
@Golden Girl
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