You could always buy and use a respec recipe, or a holiday respec by trading in candy canes during the Winter Event.
Occasionally they have. The thing is we can only hold one freespec per toon. They have granted an immediate freespec on launch, then another a week after. Whether this will happen for i19 remains to be seen.
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This is the problem in a nutshell; since freespec's don't stack how would the Dev's give out one for both builds?|
Originally Posted by Derangedpolygot
Occasionally they have. The thing is we can only hold one freespec per toon. They have granted an immediate freespec on launch, then another a week after. Whether this will happen for i19 remains to be seen.
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The only way I can think of is either staggered with one freespec when the issue drops and another a week or two later or if they have the tech in place (which they probably don't) give one freespec and one earned respec. Hmm, one thing they do have the tech for is to create a log in badge with a claimable respec attached... it'd work like veteran reward respecs.
Frankly though I doubt we'll get more than the traditional one freespec.
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When Inherent Fitness was first mentioned, Castle made a couple replies in the threads about it. In one of them, he said something about granting two respecs. It didn't sound so much like a promise as a "that's what we want to do". He also didn't say whether it was a change to stacking freespecs, or two staggered freespec grants.
If it happens, I'd put my money on the latter. In that case, people who plan on dual respecs on a lot of characters had better practise their speed respecs, just to make sure they finish before the second grant.
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Another option is to temporarily become a villain. If level 40 or higher, he could then do one of the Patron arcs, which awards a respec.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
You could always buy and use a respec recipe, or a holiday respec by trading in candy canes during the Winter Event.
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I forgot about that one.
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Originally Posted by Willowpaw
Another option is to temporarily become a villain. If level 40 or higher, he could then do one of the Patron arcs, which awards a respec.
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If anything messes up that they have to fix after it goes live, they'll give another one out anyway. It's happened...
I'm still a little unclear on why this would cause me to respec anyway - inherent or not, it was never the number of power picks that causes cramping, it's the number of slots.
On most of my toons, I run health & stam with three a pop; if these become inherent, I'll gain one power pick (passing over swift/hurdle) but still need to throw them three each...which means I'll have at least one more pick that I can't give as many slots to as I did before.
*shrug* Guess I'm just sort of ambivalent about its inherent status. I likely won't bother changing a thing.
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You'll gain 3, if you used 3 before and get 4 powers at level 2, for free that required taking a pool before.
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Originally Posted by Cade Lawson
I'll gain one power pick (passing over swift/hurdle) .
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Plenty of great utility powers out there that don't require heavy slotting, or just plain picks you can make to drop certain IOs in.
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Originally Posted by Cade Lawson
I'm still a little unclear on why this would cause me to respec anyway - inherent or not, it was never the number of power picks that causes cramping, it's the number of slots.
On most of my toons, I run health & stam with three a pop; if these become inherent, I'll gain one power pick (passing over swift/hurdle) but still need to throw them three each...which means I'll have at least one more pick that I can't give as many slots to as I did before. *shrug* Guess I'm just sort of ambivalent about its inherent status. I likely won't bother changing a thing. |
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Hand out one with the issue then hand out another one shortly thereafter.|
Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome
This is the problem in a nutshell; since freespec's don't stack how would the Dev's give out one for both builds?
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I believe they've done exactly that before.
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Can you run the hero respecs and the villain respecs to gain 6 respecs? Or are they on the same counter?
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Good question; frankly I'd doubt it but I really don't know.
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Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer
Can you run the hero respecs and the villain respecs to gain 6 respecs? Or are they on the same counter?
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Nope. you can't even run the ones on the opposite side to get extra badges (not counting the Hero badge just for the trial). It's 3 per customer.
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Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer
Can you run the hero respecs and the villain respecs to gain 6 respecs? Or are they on the same counter?
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I believe the incarnate system is supposed to give extra slots.
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Originally Posted by Cade Lawson
I'm still a little unclear on why this would cause me to respec anyway - inherent or not, it was never the number of power picks that causes cramping, it's the number of slots.
On most of my toons, I run health & stam with three a pop; if these become inherent, I'll gain one power pick (passing over swift/hurdle) but still need to throw them three each...which means I'll have at least one more pick that I can't give as many slots to as I did before. *shrug* Guess I'm just sort of ambivalent about its inherent status. I likely won't bother changing a thing. |
Slots yes, but they are slots for Incarnate abilites and not your specific powers. From what we've heard about, it's best to think of them as a meta slot, kind of like a reverse Set Bonus.
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Not according to Necrotech_Master. He has stated down in the suggestions section that he has tested on the live servers and found that if you do one sides respec trial and you have not used the respec you can switch sides and do the other factions trials from the lowest up and get all the badges.|
Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
Nope. you can't even run the ones on the opposite side to get extra badges (not counting the Hero badge just for the trial). It's 3 per customer.
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But again remember you can only get them if the side you started on still says, "Talk to so-and-so to claim this respec."
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I am excited about resepcing my tank because not having to take the fitness pool means I will be able to take my travel power earlier. Due to slotting issues, I was forced to spec into taking my travel power at 49. Because of this, I don't like doing the lower level TFs on him.
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Originally Posted by Cade Lawson
I'm still a little unclear on why this would cause me to respec anyway - inherent or not, it was never the number of power picks that causes cramping, it's the number of slots.
On most of my toons, I run health & stam with three a pop; if these become inherent, I'll gain one power pick (passing over swift/hurdle) but still need to throw them three each...which means I'll have at least one more pick that I can't give as many slots to as I did before. *shrug* Guess I'm just sort of ambivalent about its inherent status. I likely won't bother changing a thing. |
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This varies a lot between characters. Some characters do have spare slots but are power choice limited (for example my AR/Dev blaster has a full Trap of the Hunter in Web Grenade because the Ranged Defense bonus was the most useful thing I could so with those slots).|
Originally Posted by Cade Lawson
I'm still a little unclear on why this would cause me to respec anyway - inherent or not, it was never the number of power picks that causes cramping, it's the number of slots.
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Even if you don't have the slots to spare there are lots of potentially useful powers that don't need slotting.
1. Travel Powers (if you skipped one before)
2. Any passives in your Armor set you didn't have room for
3. The rez power in your Support set if you skipped it
4. A single target mez (stick an Endoplasm Exposure or even just a generic accuracy and you can reasonably reliably mez an LT for a few seconds if you need to).
6. Leadership toggles, Assault in particular doesn't really benefit from slots
7. Recall Friend
8. Combat Jumping (a small defense boost that requires virtually no endurance to run plus can take quite a few useful globals/procs in the default slot)
9. Stealth Pool (or Maneuvers) as a LotG mule
10. A Snipe. These have a base accuracy of 1.2 so even with just a level 50 damage IO it can be ok as an opening move. It'll do almost as much damage as your 12 second recharge blast so it's basically a little extra burst damage at the start of combat.
11. Fighting Pool. Ok, it's not great unslotted but if you've got the endurance to run it you're still tougher than you were before.
Personally I'm hoping this change will encourage more people to take Leadership powers. Individually they are weak but when you stack them 8 deep those bonuses add up.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Hand out one with the issue then hand out another one shortly thereafter.
I believe they've done exactly that before. |
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I believe the incarnate system is supposed to give extra slots.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Not according to Necrotech_Master. He has stated down in the suggestions section that he has tested on the live servers and found that if you do one sides respec trial and you have not used the respec you can switch sides and do the other factions trials from the lowest up and get all the badges.
But again remember you can only get them if the side you started on still says, "Talk to so-and-so to claim this respec." |
And if it were true we'd be having people scream bloody murder over it if it was WAI. The idea that you could potentially be unable to earn three badges because you made a decision (maybe years ago) to use a respec or not would be amazingly uncool to say the least. Until I see/hear a bunch of other people verifying this I'm going to politely dismiss this as badging urban legend or at best a bug of some kind.
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As far as getting another 3 to 4 power picks when Fitness becomes inherent and not having extra slots... both the Teleport and Stealth pools can be used effectively with only the base slot in most of the powers regardless of whether you use them as set mules.
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I don't get it. Why can't you have more than one freespec? I have characters from years ago that it says I have 2 or even 3 respecs for, and this is without me hitting the 'claim respec' button on my badges.
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That simply means that you've done the respec trial or something similar on those characters. The free respecs do not stack, but the vet rewards, respec trials and patron respecs do stack. You may not have claimed the vet ones, but you've gotten an earned one from a different source. See Types of respecs.
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Originally Posted by The_Pancake_King
I don't get it. Why can't you have more than one freespec? I have characters from years ago that it says I have 2 or even 3 respecs for, and this is without me hitting the 'claim respec' button on my badges.
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I'm guessing they'll give us one free respec like they always do with issues that change the way toons are built, but will they give two respecs to people with dual builds? I don't mean to sound greedy, but my tank (who I've had a long time) has eaten through all his respecs in game. He has a team and solo build - I'll have to shell out the $10 to buy a token, or wait till my next vet one pops up to alter his solo build to the new fitness pool inherit.