Have I gotten into a toon that will please my min/maxer
This will not please you if you are a min/maxer.
You will always be looking at the harder hits of a scrapper and asking yourself why didnt I just choose that and go with a pool power that makes you invisible.
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I tried that myself, tried getting into my Night Widow, tried getting into a Brute or Scrapper with the same sets as my Stalker. Never worked for me.|
Originally Posted by InUse
Have I gotten into a toon that will please my min/maxer
This will not please you if you are a min/maxer. You will always be looking at the harder hits of a scrapper and asking yourself why didnt I just choose that and go with a pool power that makes you invisible. |
A large part of the draw to the Stalker AT is that it's the melee class that takes tactics, planning, and quick thinking to do well with. The other three are just run in and smash, collect xp/inf and move on.
And no, another AT with the stealth pool is not a substitute for living on the edge as most Stalkers enjoy doing.
"Scrappers don't want the bit of dignity that Brutes left them taken away by (lol)Stalkers." -Delta_Strider, on Stalker buffs.
Current Project: Hard Goodbye, StJ/Nin
Retired: Blitzwulf, Claws/Nin (50); Perdition's Blade, Night Widow (50)
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And that's why he posted in the Stalker forum, right?|
Originally Posted by InUse
You will always be looking at the harder hits of a scrapper and asking yourself why didnt I just choose that and go with a pool power that makes you invisible.
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After FINALLY getting a Stalker (Kin/Regen) past level 10 (which was the wall for me, never got a Stalker over level 10 before) I decided to slide on into this forum and check stuff out as I really enjoy the way Kin Melee plays.
The first thing I got sick of was "go roll a scrapper with invis." That's a BS suggestion for anyone who wants a Stalker.
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I've made several Stalkers to lvl 50 and my Ninja Blade is lvl 45. However, I have not spent enough time to put a lot of sets into them as I get very alt-tis.|
Originally Posted by Mortimer_NA
I have been looking for a reason to play a stalker for a while. I really like the concept. I have rolled several up over the last year and always delete them before level 15. This is is no way a slight to the AT. Its just me. Well I finally rolled one up not based on something I read of the forums, saw someone do something really awesome ingame, or been told to roll by others. I created this toon because it fits a character idea I love! I rolled up a Ninja Blade/Super Reflexes Khajiit Warrior. When I played through Morrowind, this was my favorite race to play. With inherent invisibility and its natural grace, it made the perfect concept for a stalker.
Now, what I want from you all. I have not been able to find much of anything written on the power combo. Have I gotten into a toon that will please my min/maxer side while deeply satisfying my desire to have a toon I connect with? What have you been able to do with this power combo? |
Having said that, Ninja/SR definitely works as you can stack "position" defense. I think a truly min/max combo may be Ninja/Willpower as "resistance" (especially psionic type) is hard to get from set bonus. Position defense is the easiest thing to get.
One good thing about Ninja Blade is that "melee" defense from sets is very expensive to get if you want Touch of Death full set but Ninja Blade offers melee defense! Mako set, on the other hand, is much cheaper so use Mako to satisfy your soft-capped Ranged defense and use Scirocco for more AoE defense. PbAoE set like Obliteration also offers good melee defense but it's freaking expensive too.
It really depends on "max" you want from Ninja/SR. I think if you are just aiming for some set bonuses, then it definitely works well.
Or, another route is to get Soul Mastery and rely on Shadow Meld and work on your +recharge to make it recharge faster.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
NB/SR is redundant from a min-maxer perspective. You can get insane levels of DDR from SR alone, which makes the extra defense from NB useless. NB also gives up a bit in other areas for that extra defense that you are not taking advantage of.
NB/Will will make better use of that extra defense in NB and a non-sword/SR will also make better use of the capped def and DDR on SR. NB also makes the resist secondaries somewhat viable for a Stalker as well.
I personally can't stomach any of the Stalker secondaries other than Nin because other ATs just do so much better with them when IOed out. That pretty much goes for the primaries as well, but it's something I've learned to tolerate when coupled with /Nin.
Well, another way to look at it is that since Nin/SR can get soft-defense easily, you can go for Achille's Heel proc and even Lady Grey proc in each attack if you can afford. :P
There are still options to "max" your toon other than defense I think.
Technically, you can get three damage procs easily. Two lethal from Mako and Shield Breaker and one Negative from Lady Grey.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
I might just have to put together a NB/SR Stalker...
SR is one of the few sets that doesn't sacrifice anything, as the defense for Lucky gets thrown into Evasion, and then some. Which makes it actually better on Stalker than Scrapper. Add in the Bonus boost from Hide, and you have a potent defensive set.
On the other hand, one weakness of the NB set, although it is also a strength, is Divine Avalanche, which while it helps with resistance focused sets, is the bane of your DPS. Therefore, having SR as a secondary actually makes sense.
I quickly went to Mids' to throw together what I would do with a NB/SR stalker, and found the results very satisfying. I have included an expensive (around 4bil, or lots and lots of alignment missions) and inexpensive build. The inexpensive set requires you to flip enhancements onf GC, FS, AS and Tough...
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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Ninja Blade
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Gambler's Cut -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(31)
Level 1: Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40)
Level 2: Flashing Steel -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(3), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(19), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Armgdn-Dam%(21)
Level 4: Focused Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(5), RedFtn-Def(5), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(7), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(7), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 6: Assassin's Blade -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(23), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(25), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Hectmb-Dam%(27)
Level 8: Build Up -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(9), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(15), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(17), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(17), GSFC-ToHit(19)
Level 10: Focused Senses -- RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(11), RedFtn-Def(11), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(13), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(13), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 12: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Agile -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40)
Level 16: Practiced Brawler -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Kick -- P'ngS'Fest-Stun%(A)
Level 20: Dodge -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40)
Level 22: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GA-3defTpProc(23), Aegis-Psi/Status(42), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(42), ImpArm-ResPsi(43), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(43)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(42)
Level 26: Soaring Dragon -- Mako-Dmg/Rchg(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Mako-Acc/Dmg(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 28: Quickness -- Run-I(A)
Level 30: Teleport Foe -- Range-I(A)
Level 32: Golden Dragonfly -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(34), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Oblit-%Dam(39)
Level 35: Evasion -- RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(36), RedFtn-Def(36), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(36), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(37), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Recall Friend -- Range-I(A)
Level 41: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(45), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(45)
Level 44: Melt Armor -- ShldBrk-%Dam(A), ShldBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dmg/Rng(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg(50)
Level 49: Stealth -- GftotA-Run+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Ninja Blade
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Gambler's Cut -- T'Death-Dam%(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), T'Death-Acc/Dmg(29), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(31), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(31), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31)
Level 1: Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40)
Level 2: Flashing Steel -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(3), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(21), AnWeak-%ToHit(21)
Level 4: Focused Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(5), RedFtn-Def(5), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(7), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(7), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 6: Assassin's Blade -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(23), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(25), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(25), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 8: Build Up -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(9), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(15), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(17), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(17), GSFC-ToHit(19)
Level 10: Focused Senses -- RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(11), RedFtn-Def(11), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(13), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(13), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 12: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Agile -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40)
Level 16: Practiced Brawler -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Kick -- P'ngS'Fest-Stun%(A)
Level 20: Dodge -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40)
Level 22: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Aegis-Psi/Status(23), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(42), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), ImpArm-ResPsi(43), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(43)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(42)
Level 26: Soaring Dragon -- Mako-Dmg/Rchg(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Mako-Acc/Dmg(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 28: Quickness -- Run-I(A)
Level 30: Teleport Foe -- Range-I(A)
Level 32: Golden Dragonfly -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(34), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Oblit-%Dam(39)
Level 35: Evasion -- RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(36), RedFtn-Def(36), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(36), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(37), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Recall Friend -- Range-I(A)
Level 41: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(45), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(45)
Level 44: Melt Armor -- ShldBrk-%Dam(A), ShldBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dmg/Rng(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg(50)
Level 49: Stealth -- GftotA-Run+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination
Level 4: Ninja Run
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I think the OP needs to clarify his "min/max" needs.
My impression was, he wants to take his choosen sets, and min/max it!
Doesn't mean it's the best combo for those looking to be the uber OMGWTFPIXIESTIX!
I also don't see why people think just because you go /SR you should avoid using Ninja Blade.
Okay, Divine Avalanche isn't really needed once you softcap a /SR. What that means, is you drop the power and pick something else up 
What /SR will allow the OP to do, is softcap his defenses easier, and thusly work more on sustained ENDREC and adding a bit more OOMPH to his DPS.
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| I created this toon because it fits a character idea I love! I rolled up a Ninja Blade/Super Reflexes Khajiit Warrior. When I played through Morrowind, this was my favorite race to play. With inherent invisibility and its natural grace, it made the perfect concept for a stalker. |
For this...I'd seriously suggest DB with Nin or maybe SR then....DB is ten times more "graceful" than NB, so I think it'd fit your theme very well in that department, even if in your "previous" game the race didn't dual wield. As for Nin and SR, they are both very graceful looking sets, and are themed around that sort of "grace."
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Stalker SR gets a little more AoE defense than the other flavors, but loses 1/3 of the scaling resistance because of the missing passive - I wouldn't say it doesn't sacrifice anything, but it's definitely minor.|
Originally Posted by Beelzy
I might just have to put together a NB/SR Stalker...
SR is one of the few sets that doesn't sacrifice anything, as the defense for Lucky gets thrown into Evasion, and then some. Which makes it actually better on Stalker than Scrapper. Add in the Bonus boost from Hide, and you have a potent defensive set. |
As for min/maxing it... well, you can do that with anything, depending on your budget and what you're planning on doing. It won't be the absolute best when compared to other powersets or ATs, but you can get it to a high performance level - and if you like the concept and enjoy the character, that should be plenty.
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Originally Posted by nalrok_athzim
and that's why he posted in the stalker forum, right?
... The first thing i got sick of was "go roll a scrapper with invis." that's a bs suggestion for anyone who wants a stalker. |
Depending on your goals, IMO nin/SR would be a nice set to min/max.
-Easy to softcap SR can spend more IO bonuses on recharge, which stacks with quickness, and chasing both those goals will give you tons of regen, recovery, and HP. -High DDR means you can always rely on your defense being there, even in the face of massive def debuff.
-An Achilles' Heel proc in Gambler's cut ups your single-target damage, and all that recharge goes a long way for nin/.
-Divine Avalanche will rock for your leveling experience, and you can keep it in the build for IO bonuses, and for ease when/if you malefactor below your def bonus levels.
All that said, take a look at /ninjitsu, too. Less base def in the set, less DDR, caltrops/self heal/blinding powder all create a nimble, 'tricky,' active feel in the playstyle. Caltrops + divine avalanche will probably serve 90% of your pve mitigation needs. Can also be IOed very well, but takes more effort than SR to softcap, and get high recharge at the same time.
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I would never roll SR on a stalker. Mostly due to that one passive being gone. It makes a huge difference if you ever get to low health. For me its been pretty much */nin. I cant stomach the other secondaries because it takes too long for them to bloom or be useful until you get IOs. Nin can do almost everything that SR can do except the scaling resists and defense debuff resists but you have a heal and caltrops to make up for that. Soft capping is easier than ever since the alignment system so thats definately something to shoot for in the future. The only other secondary I would touch at the moment is WP but thats only with alot of IOs spec towards melee defense and recharge. I think the other secondaries might get easier once we get inherrent stamina and I have more build space to squeeze in tough and weave to make them more survivable. For primaries only pick the ones with 2 or more aoes or 1 that has a gimmick to it. On my ninja blade stalker I have the pbaoe sets that are for recharge and I get alot of GD and FS during the fights. If only stalkers got lotus drops I would have the perfect toon. I can see possibly working martial arts in now because you get one of the highest damaging attacks that can crit now. The only problem is the insane recharges. You pretty much have to spec for recharge if you want to leverage that some what.
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If you want a more hands off secondary, then SR is probably the way to go with /Nin being a bag full of tricks to play with.
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Originally Posted by Mortimer_NA
I have been looking for a reason to play a stalker for a while. I really like the concept. I have rolled several up over the last year and always delete them before level 15. This is is no way a slight to the AT. Its just me. Well I finally rolled one up not based on something I read of the forums, saw someone do something really awesome ingame, or been told to roll by others. I created this toon because it fits a character idea I love! I rolled up a Ninja Blade/Super Reflexes Khajiit Warrior. When I played through Morrowind, this was my favorite race to play. With inherent invisibility and its natural grace, it made the perfect concept for a stalker.
Now, what I want from you all. I have not been able to find much of anything written on the power combo. Have I gotten into a toon that will please my min/maxer side while deeply satisfying my desire to have a toon I connect with? What have you been able to do with this power combo? |
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Melee defense on WP? It's a typed defense set.
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Originally Posted by EvilRyu
I would never roll SR on a stalker. Mostly due to that one passive being gone. It makes a huge difference if you ever get to low health. For me its been pretty much */nin. I cant stomach the other secondaries because it takes too long for them to bloom or be useful until you get IOs. Nin can do almost everything that SR can do except the scaling resists and defense debuff resists but you have a heal and caltrops to make up for that. Soft capping is easier than ever since the alignment system so thats definately something to shoot for in the future. The only other secondary I would touch at the moment is WP but thats only with alot of IOs spec towards melee defense and recharge. I think the other secondaries might get easier once we get inherrent stamina and I have more build space to squeeze in tough and weave to make them more survivable. For primaries only pick the ones with 2 or more aoes or 1 that has a gimmick to it. On my ninja blade stalker I have the pbaoe sets that are for recharge and I get alot of GD and FS during the fights. If only stalkers got lotus drops I would have the perfect toon. I can see possibly working martial arts in now because you get one of the highest damaging attacks that can crit now. The only problem is the insane recharges. You pretty much have to spec for recharge if you want to leverage that some what.
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Divine Avalanche gives Lethal defense too.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
Melee defense on WP? It's a typed defense set.
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I know, but the quoted poster, said they'd go for lots of Melee Defense if they went with WP.|
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Divine Avalanche gives Lethal defense too.
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WP is typed defense. not positional.
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Considering Stalkers reduced HP mod and reduced max HP compared to every other AT that gets SR, stalkers made the least use out of the scaling resistance even if they had all three of the passives. |
Originally Posted by EvilRyu
I would never roll SR on a stalker. Mostly due to that one passive being gone. It makes a huge difference if you ever get to low health. For me its been pretty much */nin. I cant stomach the other secondaries because it takes too long for them to bloom or be useful until you get IOs. Nin can do almost everything that SR can do except the scaling resists and defense debuff resists but you have a heal and caltrops to make up for that. Soft capping is easier than ever since the alignment system so thats definately something to shoot for in the future. The only other secondary I would touch at the moment is WP but thats only with alot of IOs spec towards melee defense and recharge. I think the other secondaries might get easier once we get inherrent stamina and I have more build space to squeeze in tough and weave to make them more survivable. For primaries only pick the ones with 2 or more aoes or 1 that has a gimmick to it. On my ninja blade stalker I have the pbaoe sets that are for recharge and I get alot of GD and FS during the fights. If only stalkers got lotus drops I would have the perfect toon. I can see possibly working martial arts in now because you get one of the highest damaging attacks that can crit now. The only problem is the insane recharges. You pretty much have to spec for recharge if you want to leverage that some what.
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Of the three ATs, Stalkers would be at a much lower health when the resistance kicks in compared to the other two ATs. By that time, getting hit would be death no matter what you would do. (In a normal situation)
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Thanks for getting back to me so quickly with all your comments. I am currently typing this from a hospital bed. Just found out I have meningitis(sp?). They did a spinal tap and everything. OUCH!!! lol ok it wasnt that bad. I would say a blow from LR hurt worse. Anyways, I felt I should clarify my original post for yall. I am set on these power sets. I noticed that I can softcap all 3 positions with JUST generic IOs w/o divine avalanche. That really led me to think I could focus on othe aspects. Ninja Blade seems to have a fairly decent recharge rates. I wondered if I should just focus on more HP, accuracy, etc? Or am I off the mark entirely. When I say Min/maxing, I do not necessarily mean being able to solo Hamidon or anything but what can I do to max this particular toon?
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Generally speaking, yes, WP is typed Defense, but you can get away with going for Melee if you are a stalker because of the flexibility of the AT allowing you to not have to deal as much with non-melee damage. It is possible to go for melee, but probly not the best choice...
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Originally Posted by BrandX
I know, but the quoted poster, said they'd go for lots of Melee Defense if they went with WP.
WP is typed defense. not positional. |
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Originally Posted by Mortimer_NA
Hey guys,
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly with all your comments. I am currently typing this from a hospital bed. Just found out I have meningitis(sp?). They did a spinal tap and everything. OUCH!!! lol ok it wasnt that bad. I would say a blow from LR hurt worse. Anyways, I felt I should clarify my original post for yall. I am set on these power sets. I noticed that I can softcap all 3 positions with JUST generic IOs w/o divine avalanche. That really led me to think I could focus on othe aspects. Ninja Blade seems to have a fairly decent recharge rates. I wondered if I should just focus on more HP, accuracy, etc? Or am I off the mark entirely. When I say Min/maxing, I do not necessarily mean being able to solo Hamidon or anything but what can I do to max this particular toon? |
I would say aim for 50% global recharge, HP and Damage. Because of the -Def proc accuracy isn't a big issue... You might also want to slip in some -res procs into one or two powers...
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Yeah melee defense. You barely get any smashing/lethal from the defensive toggle so you might as well slot for melee defense instead since its 10 times easier to get melee defense higher than smashing lethal defense.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
I know, but the quoted poster, said they'd go for lots of Melee Defense if they went with WP.
WP is typed defense. not positional. |
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More reason not to do SR on a stalker. Better to do nin or something else with a dependable heal.
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Originally Posted by Lord_Thanatos
Considering Stalkers reduced HP mod and reduced max HP compared to every other AT that gets SR, stalkers made the least use out of the scaling resistance even if they had all three of the passives.
Of the three ATs, Stalkers would be at a much lower health when the resistance kicks in compared to the other two ATs. By that time, getting hit would be death no matter what you would do. (In a normal situation) |
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The OP wants to do SR, the question is not whether it is the best, but whether and how he can make it work.
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Originally Posted by EvilRyu
More reason not to do SR on a stalker. Better to do nin or something else with a dependable heal.
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I have been looking for a reason to play a stalker for a while. I really like the concept. I have rolled several up over the last year and always delete them before level 15. This is is no way a slight to the AT. Its just me. Well I finally rolled one up not based on something I read of the forums, saw someone do something really awesome ingame, or been told to roll by others. I created this toon because it fits a character idea I love! I rolled up a Ninja Blade/Super Reflexes Khajiit Warrior. When I played through Morrowind, this was my favorite race to play. With inherent invisibility and its natural grace, it made the perfect concept for a stalker.
Now, what I want from you all. I have not been able to find much of anything written on the power combo. Have I gotten into a toon that will please my min/maxer side while deeply satisfying my desire to have a toon I connect with? What have you been able to do with this power combo?