Wildstorm Imprint Goes Bye Bye
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Posted on: 2010-09-21 11:47 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
I'm surprised Wildstorm lasted as long as it did. The standard Marvel and DC method is to buy up the rival superhero comics, change them, then kill them off when they inevitably lose popularity. Malibu and others have departed the same way.
No shocker there, really. Surprised they kept them separate for this long, especially after the utter disaster of a "relaunch" a few years back.
Fold Gen 13, WildC.A.T.S. and the Authority into the DCU proper and be done with it.
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good luck D.B.B.
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From what I read at CBR it sounds like that is what they are going to do...
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Originally Posted by Agonus
No shocker there, really. Surprised they kept them separate for this long, especially after the utter disaster of a "relaunch" a few years back.
Fold Gen 13, WildC.A.T.S. and the Authority into the DCU proper and be done with it. |
Sad, but not surprising. Wildstorm's been running on fumes for a long time now, and it seems like most of the creators who got the chance to work on the WSU books either didn't care about the characters or cared about them for the wrong reasons.
In 1999 DC Comics bought Wildstorm. It was generally agreed they wanted it for three things. The colourists. Jim Lee. And Alan Moore.
At this point, what else is DC Comics supposed to do?
P.S. Warren Ellis and Kurt Busiek don't sound especially hopeful about what's in store for their creator-owned titles with Wildstorm.
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Originally Posted by Mirai
I'm surprised Wildstorm lasted as long as it did. The standard Marvel and DC method is to buy up the rival superhero comics, change them, then kill them off when they inevitably lose popularity. Malibu and others have departed the same way.
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Static was on a Titans roster and is getting his own book soon, IIRC.
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I liked the first JLA/WildC.A.T.S. crossover....I could go for another.
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Originally Posted by ShoNuff
From what I read at CBR it sounds like that is what they are going to do...
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Putting the Authority in the regular DCU would be a terrible, terrible thing.
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I agree I just don't see the Authority and JLA mixing that well. DC tried to make the JLA take the Authority route once with the JLA Elite mini series, didn't really like it. Some I can see transitioning ok like Gen 13, Welcome to Tranquility, WildC.A.T.S., not sure on the Astro City material.
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Originally Posted by Kasoh
Putting the Authority in the regular DCU would be a terrible, terrible thing.
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For what it's worth, Busiek owns Astro City. If Wildstorm try to do anything funny with it, he should be able to tell them to sod off and take it to another publisher. If he's signed any really unusual contracts that may not be the case, but Busiek's been around the block a time or two. He knows what he's doing on the business side of things, I think.
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
In 1999 DC Comics bought Wildstorm. It was generally agreed they wanted it for three things. The colourists. Jim Lee. And Alan Moore.
At this point, what else is DC Comics supposed to do? P.S. Warren Ellis and Kurt Busiek don't sound especially hopeful about what's in store for their creator-owned titles with Wildstorm. |
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Not as terrible as what was done to the Authority in the Wildstorm revamp.
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Originally Posted by Kasoh
Putting the Authority in the regular DCU would be a terrible, terrible thing.
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Please let Ex Machina be okay... please let Ex Machina be okay, please let Ex Machina be okay, please let Ex Machina be okay.
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eh, trashing indie comic labels after picking them up is usually Marvel's thing. As is trying to kill them off once they aren't needed. OTOH, DC does have a good history of integrating purchased universes into the DCU. some titles won't work out so well, others will fit fine with a few changes.
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Originally Posted by Mirai
I'm surprised Wildstorm lasted as long as it did. The standard Marvel and DC method is to buy up the rival superhero comics, change them, then kill them off when they inevitably lose popularity. Malibu and others have departed the same way.
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Ugh...so right....Hawkmoor's costume...so bad.
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Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
Not as terrible as what was done to the Authority in the Wildstorm revamp.
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Damn you for bringing this up.|
Originally Posted by Mirai
Malibu and others have departed the same way.
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I had high hopes for the Ultraverse series of books. It's been over 15 years since Marvel gave Malibu the flush-and-swirly treatment and I'm STILL bitter over it.
AND I INTEND TO STAY THAT WAY DAMMIT!
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Creator ownership may shield some Wildstorm titles from the fallout from DC's decision, but from a practical perspective, things could still be difficult. DC controls the printed stock of these titles as well as the film for reproduction, so taking the creator-owned titles to another publisher may turn out to be more complicated than even starting from square one. One can only hope that Astro City, Ex Machina, et al. won't see any disruption in their availability because of this, as many other books have when their original publishers go through changes.|
Originally Posted by Warp_Factor
For what it's worth, Busiek owns Astro City. If Wildstorm try to do anything funny with it, he should be able to tell them to sod off and take it to another publisher. If he's signed any really unusual contracts that may not be the case, but Busiek's been around the block a time or two. He knows what he's doing on the business side of things, I think.
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On the other hand, anyone who did work for hire for Wildstorm in its heydey should be prepared to see their legacies revised, recycled, rebooted, and retconned into unrecognizability.
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Originally Posted by fredriksvanberg
not as terrible as what was done to the authority in the wildstorm revamp.
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What Astro City availability? |
Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Creator ownership may shield some Wildstorm titles from the fallout from DC's decision, but from a practical perspective, things could still be difficult. DC controls the printed stock of these titles as well as the film for reproduction, so taking the creator-owned titles to another publisher may turn out to be more complicated than even starting from square one. One can only hope that Astro City, Ex Machina, et al. won't see any disruption in their availability because of this, as many other books have when their original publishers go through changes.
On the other hand, anyone who did work for hire for Wildstorm in its heydey should be prepared to see their legacies revised, recycled, rebooted, and retconned into unrecognizability. |
It may be my favorite title, but it has to be one of the most erratically-published comics of all time. (I've been waiting a couple of years now for the second half of the "current" storyline to come out in a collection.)As for the second quoted paragraph, at least the inhabitants of Astro City will get the wonderful experience of being told how much better and smarter than them Batman is ... (rollseyes)
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Newsarama has collected the reactions from Wildstorm alumni Warren Elllis, Ed Brubaker, and Gail Simone, ranging from the uncertain to the elegiac.
Hmmm...Gen-13 and DV8 could easily be worked into the DC universe. Though, would they move them to fictional cities?
I'd love to see Gen-13 returned to how it started, then see them run into others. And then of course, see Gen-13 kick Batman's butt. I mean what?!
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Hoping to see a Birds of Prey / Danger Girl crossover come of this... (dug the DG/ Batman cross over)
Also hoping we may see a return of Crimson. (though I may be alone in this)
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Well, Ex Machina finished about a month ago so I don't see how this would affect it, other than how the trades are released in the future. More than likely they'll be the same but with the DC logo on it somewhere.
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Originally Posted by Zortel
Please let Ex Machina be okay... please let Ex Machina be okay, please let Ex Machina be okay, please let Ex Machina be okay.
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