I think the Event is Chuck Norris, Isaiah Mustafa, and the Most Interesting Man in the World all being in the same room at the same time. Too much awesomeness in one spot could easily tear the fabric of space time.
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Still unsure what I feel about it... even more so when the plan wormholed out...
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You pretty much covered what I was about to reply with. The flashbacks were nauseating & everybody looked like they just got back from a Botox party. I won't waste another hour on this one.
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Originally Posted by RemusShepherd
Hated this show for two reasons.
One, every character looked the same. They're all early thirty-somethings with great skin and hair. Even the president and all his advisors. They couldn't cast a single believably middle-aged person? It's like West Wing 90210. But second and worse, they cut the narrative back and forth in time every two minutes. If I glanced away from the TV and back again, I didn't know if the story was in the past or the present. It's a horrible directing choice and the scriptwriter should be slapped. I suspect that the narrative bouncing back and forth will become a signature of the series, and for that reason the secret will be all about time travel. I won't be watching it again to find out, though. |
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You pretty much covered what I was about to reply with. The flashbacks were nauseating & everybody looked like they just got back from a Botox party. I won't waste another hour on this one.
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I won't be Tivoing this.
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The time bounces were very annoying. I was trying to finish dinner and watch so I'd walk out of the room and come back in and have no clue as to why people were where they were. Once I sat down and paid close attention I was able to follow along, but I rarely have time to do that.
I am definitely in the time traveller camp. It would make sense with the time jumping of the show. It would also tie into the look on "Dr. Weaver's" face at the end. To me she did not look surprised or scared, as the plane was wormholed out she actually looked elated. And for whatever reason it always seems to be that people from the distant future have "powers" of some sort.
Also I think the family interaction of the pilot was a bit odd. The parents sure were worried about their daughter who appeared to be a grown women with a kid of her own. Though it could have just been the acting. My thinking though is that the pilot and family are part of the time travellers or something. But that's putting a lot of forethought into very few clues.
Not sure how I feel about it at the moment. I'll give it another show or two to pick up since that was just the pilot.
I'm going to reserve my judgment for now. I'll give it 4-5 episodes to hook me in. If it doesn't do it by then, I'm not worried about it.
As for those complaining about all the back and forth time-line jumps: maybe the show requires that, you know, actually watch it. At least they give you time references to know when something is happening (i.e. Thirteen Months Ago, 8 Days Ago). This doesn't seem like the kind of show you can just walk away and come back to. If non-committal TV is your thing, this probably won't be a show for you.
If you're going to complain about the time-jumps, then do it because it's trying to hard to be like LOST.
Yeah, there's a lot of attractive people. I'll give you that. Except for the dad while he was piloting. He looked like a warmed over corpse. Eesh.
Things I'd like to see from this show: A resolve to answer questions BEFORE the end of the show. Good character development – right now I don't care about them. Monkey butlers.
....what? I can't ask for monkey butlers?
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The producers did say that you will get answers early on this show. In fact they said the second episode will answer many questions from the first episode.
I too, think the Dad is one of "them".
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I'm still unsure if I want to watch this show or not.
The pilot had me scoffing at and criticizing it until the very end. Then it got kinda interesting.
However... for a show that's been advertised as much as it was... it's severely lackluster.
The story is somewhat interesting, if not superfluous (God I love this word) in it's vagueness.
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It's 'The Event'! Oooohhhhh, mysterious!
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The filming is just too confusing. I was a fan of Lost, and I appreciated the Flash backs and their contribution to the story.... but the way this show does it is downright sloppy.
ADD much?
I actually found myself mentally clinging to any period of story that occurred for longer 10 minutes because I just couldn't take another random jump in time.
*3 months earlier*
Hey, a new commercial for that show 'The Event' I wonder if that will last longer than Flash Forward did.
*15 days ago*
*.....*
*From current day, not from 3 months ago*
I'm getting kinda tired of 'The Event' and I haven't even seen the show.
OMG, the plane is going to crash! Wait, how did we get back to present day? We've flashed between so many scenes I'm having trouble keeping track.
Anyway, I'll watch the next few episodes... if only because of the pilots ending. I'm keeping myself at a safe distance, though. I'm serious about it being the next Flash Forward. That sucker got a lot of advertising bucks and was flushed when it didn't perform as well as expected. And because both have similar plots... I can * history repeating itself.
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I don't think that was her daughter but a much younger "oops" sister.
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I don't think that was her daughter but a much younger "oops" sister.
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The time jumps in the episode...yeah, a bit much, but I read about them before hand so I was prepared.
It's funny, because I was reading a review of the episode on AV Club and they said this show is going to be more about the mysteries than the characters, unlike Lost, which was more about the characters than the mysteries. Setting aside the comments that tore that apart (saying Lost was about the mysteries, not the characters...Hello, we had an episode devoted to Rose and Bernard!), the problem with a show being more about the mysteries is that we ended up not caring about the characters or their actions and just want answers, answers, answers. Nothing matters in any given episode unless an ANSWER is given. And that is hard to sustain long term
I don't think The Event is going that route, at least with Jason Ritter's character. I actually started to care about his plight (even though you SO don't meet any strangers on a vacation. That always ends badly).
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Let me just say this: cruise ships are huge... you can easily go the whole trip without having direct contact with anyone except the person who cleans your room, and the people who serve your meals. What's-his-face didn't think to get those people to verify his identity, and they are the people most likely to have been paid off first. The security guard and the concierge don't even need to be in on it. For this scheme, you just need five or six people, including the person who modifies the passenger records.|
Originally Posted by Attercap
The problem with hacking cruise line computers or bribing everyone involved is that I can't buy into the fact that no employee would admit interacting with the boyfriend and it couldn't be resolved via security cameras. The human interaction and sudden isolation just kills it. I have this issue with most TV shows and movies that try to play the massive conspiracy angle.
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In general, I agree that most global conspiracies involve supernatural levels of organization/buy-in, but I don't think that's the case with the cruise ship incident.
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Yeah, cruise ships are massive and one could, in theory, bunk away in a room the entire time, but the picture they painted of the couple was that they were at least somewhat active and willing to get wasted with strangers. And most cruise events are all about that--or, at least, that's what I do when I'm on a cruise. What gets me though is that his door card got him aboard the ship and that ties into a cruise ship's computer system with room number, photo, name, etc. I guess that's what tweaked me more than anything. He was able to get onto the ship but after that he wasn't in the system after that? Yeah, possible, and in a different show or movie I might buy it, but here... not so much.|
Originally Posted by Mental_Giant
In general, I agree that most global conspiracies involve supernatural levels of organization/buy-in, but I don't think that's the case with the cruise ship incident.
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They can teleport a passenger jet and you're quibbling about disabling a pair of fighters?
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Actually, I don't think the couple was too willing to co-mingle. They reluctantly got wasted with Shady Couple because they basically got guilt-tripped into doing those activities because Sean saved the girl's life. Which, of course, was probably planned. I can see Sean dictating what activities they would be a part of in an effort to spend more time with Laila alone. He, after all, arranged it so they would hike to that spot so he could propose. Not that I think they were isolated, but on that massive ship (it had a huge concelierge area with escalators), I am not so sure they saw anyone more than once, except for Shady Couple.|
Originally Posted by Attercap
Yeah, cruise ships are massive and one could, in theory, bunk away in a room the entire time, but the picture they painted of the couple was that they were at least somewhat active and willing to get wasted with strangers. And most cruise events are all about that--or, at least, that's what I do when I'm on a cruise. What gets me though is that his door card got him aboard the ship and that ties into a cruise ship's computer system with room number, photo, name, etc. I guess that's what tweaked me more than anything. He was able to get onto the ship but after that he wasn't in the system after that? Yeah, possible, and in a different show or movie I might buy it, but here... not so much.
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As far as how Sean got back onto the ship in the first place, you got me there. But one can fanwank two explanations:
Whoever wiped the system wanted Sean back on the ship so he could know that Laila was gone so he could easily be manipulated (maybe he was the first choice to fly the plane that Daddy ended up hijacking). With that reasoning, someone could have been posted at the entrance and given the signal to wipe the system after he entered. Everyone else would be in place, just the data would need to be switched. I think this is likely because how else would Sean know about the hijacked plane in the first place if he didn't come into contact with "The Conspiracy" at some point in his search for Laila.
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Because it seemed like Sean was coming back from a private excursion set up through the cruise ship (the snorkling boat appears to be taking them directly back to the ship, not to another port), they checked his ID on that smaller boat by hand or, because they all came from the ship and never left the boat captain's sight, there was no need to recheck them once they got back.
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Originally Posted by Attercap
He was able to get onto the ship but after that he wasn't in the system after that? Yeah, possible, and in a different show or movie I might buy it, but here... not so much.
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I got the same feeling as Persons Unknown interesting, but not Wow! i gotta watch that again! Of course i compare any of these kind of shows to how i felt after the first episode of Lost.
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For me, this is above Person's Unknown, at the moment equal to Flash Forward with hopes it will surpass. But yeah, nowhere near 1st episode of Lost.
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I got the same feeling as Persons Unknown interesting, but not Wow! i gotta watch that again! Of course i compare any of these kind of shows to how i felt after the first episode of Lost.
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The thing about the first episode of Lost was that it was two hours long, allowing for more decompression, and shot so much in the style of a TV movie that ABC was asking to turn it into just a TV movie with a closed ending.
Yeah, Damon and J.J. didn't care much for that request 
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Watched it again last night.
A couple of things, one may simply be continuity error.
First time they show the plane flying toward the compound, there wasn't the weird noise/vibration that led up to the plane warping out. But it was there the second time. So did the plane crash originally but the timeline was changed or are we looking at characters hopping between multiverses? Could explain the cruise ship if the lead hopped to another verse. There's a kind of Noein flavor to that theory.
Also I didn't catch that the government is still catching people being detained. Either they escaped or they weren't all grabbed at once. The fact the facility has research labs is interesting but that doesn't say if the detainees are using them or they are being used on the detainees.
"The Event" obviously occurred years before and it scares the bejesus out of some in the government. That implies power/ability that the US doesn't have. Also makes me wonder if the original event had the same disruption as the air traffic control system and fighter jet we saw. The Northeast blackout in 1965? The 2003 one is too recent for the detainees to know "several presidents".
Of course the $64,000 question is who are "they" in the "they saved us". Was the agent in the black SUV talking to the fighter or "they" when he tells them to do something now?
Then again it could just be a group of super scientists. Think BioShock/Atlas Shrugged group of innovators working in secret for years since WWII, pushing tech and science way past what the rest of the planet has been able to do. The "Event" makes the US aware of them and they try to secure them and their research but only got some of the people.
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I just thought of another possible "They": Angels/Polytheistic divinity.
Of course, that's just a special case of Alien, but it would be a slight twist.
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The plot was intriguing enough, but I thought the acting and writing were really abysmal. I'll probably watch this as my guilty pleasure like I did with Flash Forward, except I don't think this is even going to be as good as Flash Forward.
Then again, it took Heroes three episodes before I thought it was good, so we'll see.
The acting, though. I don't usually complain about acting, but seriously?
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Simon Lee...I think that was his name in the show...not good.
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The acting, though. I don't usually complain about acting, but seriously?
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I am somewhat reminded of the Samaritan's backstory from Astro City, in terms of the Event being some occurance the future folk want to change.
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