Is Caleb broken?


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Hi,

really good advise about the "already spawned" check!

We actually did this with all our members at low medium and high levels and he was definately not anywhere abouts (at least not nearby or on the island).

It is worth the effort to do that check just in case!

I did wonder about bugging it but in the end did not as I figured the Dev's are well aware of this situation. Maybe I should have though?

Do petitions get reported to the Dev's in feedback from our GM's I wonder?

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Originally Posted by jacktar View Post
Do petitions get reported to the Dev's in feedback from our GM's I wonder?
Yes, some incidents do get escalated from the GM/support level.




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Another idea... Shouldn't /demorecord give location of Caleb if it was already spawned?


 

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This is good information. Wasted a lot of time the other night trying to get him to spawn.


 

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Originally Posted by NordBlast View Post
Another idea... Shouldn't /demorecord give location of Caleb if it was already spawned?
I tried this a little while ago. The results were interesting. It took me 45-60 minutes and a dozen demorecords, and then a bit longer to actually snag him with targetcustomnext.

The problem is that Caleb flies around a LOT. At max speed. By the time you've checked the demofile (if he's in it), he's moved. Also he doesn't despawn during the day, as this one lasted 2 ingame day cycles.




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Originally Posted by Nericus View Post
Another GM that seemed a bit buggy of late was Adamastor. Was on for majority of the day the other day and never saw an alert for him and never saw him in the zone.
A little bit necropost on this... oh well.

The thing about Adamastor is that sometimes he spawns underground, untargetable until someone gets near him. A /demorecord will show his exact location if you're within 3/4 of a mile of him, which covers the entire graveyard area. Yes, I took time to figure out the exact distance .

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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
I tried this a little while ago. The results were interesting. It took me 45-60 minutes and a dozen demorecords, and then a bit longer to actually snag him with targetcustomnext.

The problem is that Caleb flies around a LOT. At max speed. By the time you've checked the demofile (if he's in it), he's moved. Also he doesn't despawn during the day, as this one lasted 2 ingame day cycles.
This exactly matches my first experience with Caleb. I was with a group and we were hunting ghosts to spawn him. Easily hunted enough ghosts to spawn him, but no message. So the team broke up. Awhile later, I got to thinking, what if he was already up. So I went back and within 10 minutes it showed up in my demorecord, without me actually having seen it. I spent the next hour trying to track it down without success. I knew I had gotten close, it had popped up several times in the demorecords, I knew the height it was flying on, since it hadn't changed in my demorecords, yet I never saw it. A friend came along and within 2 minutes he saw it. We pulled it down to ground level and kept its attention while we formed up a team and took it out.


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I was on some teams recently that spawned and fought him, and it seemed to us that there was no message.

It's certainly possible he was already spawned, but that seems fairly odd. Given his other constraints (stealthy, flyer, etc.) it might be better if he more aggressively got a replacement spawn, even though I understand that could be problematic on its own. (Having him despawn if you take a long time to form a team or DPS him slowly would be annoying as heck.)


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Originally Posted by Kheldarn View Post
We recently spawned Caleb, got the message, and couldn't find him. Someone on the team sent a /petition, and a GM showed up, and went looking for him.

The GM found him on Primeva, on the beach south of Arbiter Leary.
I wish I had the same kind of luck with my GM. When I sent in a report for our mis-spawn, they didn't even have the courtesy to meet with my team in-game. Instead, I got the following message through personal e-mail:
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Monsters such as Babbage, the Kraken, Ghost of the Scrapyard, and Deathsurge will spawn at random intervals. The sudden and unpredictable appearances of these monsters are integral parts of the designed challenges in locating and combating them.

Due to badge rewards offered for defeating them, these Monsters are in high demand. It is possible that other players have been frequently defeating the Monster you seek, thus decreasing the odds of your finding it.
I quickly responded back telling them that Caleb is not one of the random interval monsters and that it's requirements for player-intervention spawn is well documented on the wiki, as well as the CoH website itself. I went on to say that we met those requirements several times over the course of a couple hours, but Caleb still had not spawned correctly.

I was then given notice that my petition was being escalated to a Senior Customer Support Representative to further assist.

Over an hour later, I got this response:
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Caleb will spawn if enough Nerva Spectral Daemons are defeated in Nerva while the sun is up. If this is done successfully he will spawn very high above Thorn Isle as the sun sets. The Nerva Spectral Daemons will flock to Caleb. If you want to find Caleb, leave some Spectral Daemons alive and follow them to Caleb. He's hard to spot against the gray skies in Nerva, but he'll be up there somewhere.
...as if I wasn't already aware of how to spawn him. lol
I wish they just came and checked it out before assuming we didn't know what we were talking about because by the time we went back in forth in the e-mails, the team had given up and left anyway.

Well, there is always next time. I have been able to spawn him a total of 4 times in the past without much of an issue.. except one of those times it took us an hour to find him after he spawned... but at least he was there.


 

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Originally Posted by Kheldarn View Post
We recently spawned Caleb, got the message, and couldn't find him. Someone on the team sent a /petition, and a GM showed up, and went looking for him.

The GM found him on Primeva, on the beach south of Arbiter Leary.
The main thing with Caleb is that even as your team works to spawn him, someone should be checking the skies already in case he was previously spawned and never found. That has happened on some of my Caleb hunts before.


 

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Update:

I had a hunt for CoT, so I decided to hang out and try to spawn Cale while solo, just to see if I could. It was nighttime already, so I spent the time searching the sky with [Focused Accuracy] on so I'd be able to spot him easier... but I didn't see anything at all.

Once morning came, I reset Herostats and began killing the Nerva Spectral Daemons, ignoring the Lord versions. By the time night came, HeroStats showed I had just over 200 kills. There was no announcement that Caleb had spawned... but I looked around anyway., and there he was! He was not even very high at all.. barely higher than the hillside itself. He was circling Thorn Isle over and over again. I kept following him for about 15 minutes or so until I could finally round up enough people to take him down, and then we did.

It was possibly the quickest and easiest Caleb kill I ever had. It's quite possible Caleb was actually already out the whole time, but since he was so easy to spot, I find it difficult to believe I missed him the first time. He was following a very specific route around the island that I had already checked before I started killing him. He even kept turning around and following the route back around again, so even if you keep making circles around the island, he'd run into you eventually.

In short:
Keep trying. He's still out there... somewhere.

Edit:
Even stranger.. now that nobody is around and Caleb is already dead, the message just popped up saying that he spawned again, and I just found him flying around the same exact path.


 

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Update again:

Well, I decided to give it another shot just to see how my luck goes... and when I got into the area, I see a ghost fluttering toward the sky, so I follow it for a few minutes... and sure enough it eventually catches up to Caleb. He was circling a little higher this time around Primeva. No sooner that I see him and the message "Caleb has been spotted" shows up.

I call out in broadcast for people and there is not a soul anywhere. I don't know who defeated the ghosts to spawn him, or how I would have arrived just in time. I didn't defeat any ghosts at all. Eventually people did show up and I took him down for my third time today.

I don't get it.. maybe it really is broken or on some kind of random timer now. I don't know. It just seems a bit fishy to me at this point. lol

Well, if anybody on Freedom still needs to kill him, just give me a shout. I'd be happy to check it out again... I seem to be on a streak. haha


 

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I think that the idea that he despawns at dawn is incorrect. I just went in and killed a bunch of spectrals until he spawned, which took about 10 minutes. Formed a team, and we looked for him until dawn. About 5 minutes after dawn, someone on the team found him on the ground of Thorn Isle, and we took him out.

I've seen several times where people say on here that they killed the demons, got the message, and then tried the next few "days" to get him to spawn, and got no message. So either something is wrong, or he never actually despawned and was just hanging out on the other side of the map.


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Thanks to Master-Blade, I was able to get the HellBane badge for Caleb. He's been able to spot him before, and fought some NSDs solo until the timing was right. There seem to be five problems with Caleb that make it harder to get than others:

1. He is stealthed. So things like Focused Accuracy, Tactics, popping Yellows, might help to find him
2. He flies fast, and continues moving
3. He can fly high, making it harder for ground toons to find him
4. He may already be spawned (I also think he doesn't despawn like the official info states)
5. He can be in areas outside of the vidiotmaps listed spawn locations (at least I've read reports of that on the forums)

I think I will try sometime after I become a Redsider again to try to spawn him again, just so I can learn how. MB did it all and wasn't until after he found Caleb that I got to the scene of the crime.


 

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Took out over 100 during the day and flew around all night...didn't see a thing even though my pinky really hurts now from spamming the tab button. Sent a petition to a GM and got a response in about three minutes. He asked if I had fly and I said yes. He told me to activate it and I said that I was already flying over Thorn Island.

*BAM!!!*

Instantly, Cabel spawned right in front of me. I chased him down because he was immediately moving as he spawned. I had a troller on my team with (thankfully) empathy (love that fortitude when being terrorized). I freaked out because I had just moved my tank to Pinnacle and I didn't have any Pinnacle badge channels up and running. Thankfully the troller spammed the channels and inwardly I groaned. It was me, the tank, and my teammate, a troller. Guess who shows up?

One brute. Then another brute. Then a tank. I was thinking that we were going to Tranq dart this GM to death by the middle of next week. Then a corrupter showed up and stupid me forgot that I had Shivans left over from the CoP trial.

Cabel went down pretty quickly after that and who-la! I got the badge.


 

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Originally Posted by makerian View Post
5. He can be in areas outside of the vidiotmaps listed spawn locations (at least I've read reports of that on the forums)
I've found this to be true in my experiences red-side -- we've seen him flying (usually low) over islands other than Thorn Isle for sure.


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