A tear in the corner of my eye


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I have a lvl 33 vigilante KM/WP stalker, and I love it. I have recently started getting good at playing her too. So last night, I had a moment that made me swell up with joy and pride.

Citadel TF. Running smoothly. We got a good team. We split accidently as this stuff happens. Me and the brute accidently run off to the right. The blasters, trollers and corrs run off to the left.

Me and the brute (also KM/WP) find ourselves alone in the little jail room with about two mobs swarming. First off, kudos to the brute for surviving the alphas. What happened next? The brute is in the middle of the mob and just stands there, but I was already there. I build up, pop a med red and fire off burst from hide. The brute is suddenlysurrounded by a wounded archon and two lieus (all injured). I placate and AS the archon. The rest of the council move in quick. I pop reconstruction and burst again after a couple of single target shots in between. They are dead.

The brute asks what the hell just happened? I said, well it appears we kicked some ***. He says, well his mouse batteries died (OK< LOL to mouse batteries). He then said, wow stalkers can kick some ***. I gave him a praetorian salute and moved on to the next room. I then went into hide as my eyes swelled with pride.

You got to understand, no one usually ever says anything like wow, nice stalking. Typically you hear, awesome healing dude, or great heals or nice tanking, but never once in 72 months (of course some of these do not count) has anyone ever said nice stalking or the like.


 

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The closest I came to that was soloing a +4 Malta Gunslinger boss.

One of my team mates saw me and was like "Holy **** I've never seen a Stalker do that.Your awesome."


 

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Fully Awesome.

Perhaps the GR system will finally bring the Gospel of Stalker Awesomesauce into the spotlight where it belongs.


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I can recall tanking with my Nin/Nin stalker. Was awesome. The first time I did it I died. But that was only because myself and teammates ran outta insp, oh yeah, the rest of the team was dead (totally should have grabbed provoke). The next time was during LGTF, no one died, and I didn't even have to pop retsu, though I think I did toward the end, but that was mostly for the fun of it.

Great stalking, NightSable.


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Originally Posted by NightSable View Post
I then went into hide as my eyes swelled with pride.
...cry baby.


 

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Don't do that you'll make stalkers fotm.


 

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I'm extremely happy with my 50 DB/WP stalker, I can seriously lay out the hurt in burst damage, plus stick around and scrap if need be for a short time.

I'm surprised Stalkers aren't FOTM to be honest, they are so fun to play. Depending on sets, you get all kinds of tools in the toolbox to get the job done. Very fun class.


 

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Originally Posted by NightSable View Post
I have a lvl 33 vigilante KM/WP stalker, and I love it. I have recently started getting good at playing her too. So last night, I had a moment that made me swell up with joy and pride.

Citadel TF. Running smoothly. We got a good team. We split accidently as this stuff happens. Me and the brute accidently run off to the right. The blasters, trollers and corrs run off to the left.

Me and the brute (also KM/WP) find ourselves alone in the little jail room with about two mobs swarming. First off, kudos to the brute for surviving the alphas. What happened next? The brute is in the middle of the mob and just stands there, but I was already there. I build up, pop a med red and fire off burst from hide. The brute is suddenlysurrounded by a wounded archon and two lieus (all injured). I placate and AS the archon. The rest of the council move in quick. I pop reconstruction and burst again after a couple of single target shots in between. They are dead.

The brute asks what the hell just happened? I said, well it appears we kicked some ***. He says, well his mouse batteries died (OK< LOL to mouse batteries). He then said, wow stalkers can kick some ***. I gave him a praetorian salute and moved on to the next room. I then went into hide as my eyes swelled with pride.

You got to understand, no one usually ever says anything like wow, nice stalking. Typically you hear, awesome healing dude, or great heals or nice tanking, but never once in 72 months (of course some of these do not count) has anyone ever said nice stalking or the like.

I like Kinetic Melee and I think every Stalker set should have at least ONE aoe even if it's a weak one Flashing Steel from Katana. KM's Burst has 100% critical from hidden. With Build Up and proper slotting, Burst from hidden can kill +0 minions in ONE hit. You can hit up to 5 targets.

Some Stalkers just never want to open the battle with anything but Assassin Strike. In that situation, opening with Burst is the smart choice especially they are all in tight area.


Now, if you are an EM/MA, you may run out of endurance before killing the target one by one.... T_T


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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@ Nightsable: Cheers!


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Don't talk about the awesomeness of stalkers out loud! You could get us debuffed to hell!


 

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Originally Posted by Jibikao View Post
I like Kinetic Melee and I think every Stalker set should have at least ONE aoe even if it's a weak one Flashing Steel from Katana. KM's Burst has 100% critical from hidden. With Build Up and proper slotting, Burst from hidden can kill +0 minions in ONE hit. You can hit up to 5 targets.

Some Stalkers just never want to open the battle with anything but Assassin Strike. In that situation, opening with Burst is the smart choice especially they are all in tight area.


Now, if you are an EM/MA, you may run out of endurance before killing the target one by one.... T_T
I agree with this completely. I think the usefulness of burst has made my Stalker feel much more complete and viable out of hide. Her ability to fight groups after an Assassin Strike has made leveling much more pleasant and makes her feel far more useful on TFs. And yes, I use burst as an opening attack in big, all minion groups. The knockdown is also very helpful in prolonged boss fights.


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Good for you.

I had a stalker on a Posi TF last week. The team constantly forgot about her, until some high profile target would get AS'd.

In the last mission at the dam we were getting beat up a bit going thru the control center building, and just when things were going over the edge, the stalker came up big several times in quick succession and decimated the mobs that were pressing us, taking out several bosses while the battle raged on. Turned the tide.

I chatted "Wow, you're a really good stalker!". You could almost feel the player blushing thru the screen.

A little bit of recognition for a job well done goes a long way.


 

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Good for you.

I had a stalker on a Posi TF last week. The team constantly forgot about her, until some high profile target would get AS'd.

In the last mission at the dam we were getting beat up a bit going thru the control center building, and just when things were going over the edge, the stalker came up big several times in quick succession and decimated the mobs that were pressing us, taking out several bosses while the battle raged on. Turned the tide.

I chatted "Wow, you're a really good stalker!". You could almost feel the player blushing thru the screen.

A little bit of recognition for a job well done goes a long way.
It's what the AT is designed for, really. To sneak in and blast the big threats before they have a chance to really screw the pooch for your team. My Kin/Regen stalker is a favorite on blueside teams right now, especially when dealing with CoT/Sky Raiders/Lost.


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I read that the 100% Critical from Burst is a bug so.... maybe 50%?


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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Originally Posted by NightSable View Post
You got to understand, no one usually ever says anything like wow, nice stalking. Typically you hear, awesome healing dude, or great heals or nice tanking, but never once in 72 months (of course some of these do not count) has anyone ever said nice stalking or the like.
"Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap". It is nice to know that someone finally noticed the hard work we Stalkers do. It does seem that the majority of the accolades go to the Tanker and of course, somewhat rightly so since they are the ones that draw the majority of the aggro so all the squishies can pound away with their ranged attacks. I would say out of my 13 toons I have so far, My level 50 Enrgy/SR Stalker is probably in my top three of my fav's to play.

The past week, I just ended up moving her Hero side to try her out. The biggest thing that I love with Stalkers is the advantage to almost be 100% hidden and still have the ability to attack, which is unique to Stalkers. When soloing and going for the quick kill of the boss, it is also nice to "stalk" your way through the mobs without getting killed.

I would be curious to know how much "damage" a Stalker can do while in hidden mode as they lay an Assassin's Strike versus a Tanker, Brute or a Scrappers most lethal blow? I'm not talking AoE damage but pure undaunted lay to rest one hit knock out punch damage. If someone has those numbers I would be interested in seeing those. When I normally use my AS, I also turn on my Build Up prior to using this attack.







 

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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
Source please.

I don't want that nerfed. I'll delete my Kin/Regen if it is.
Well, 100% critical from an aoe is a bug. I thought it was "strange". Anyway, two people talked about it:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...=235995&page=3

Maybe they'll raise Burst's damage. I don't know.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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Originally Posted by Jibikao View Post
Well, 100% critical from an aoe is a bug. I thought it was "strange". Anyway, two people talked about it:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...=235995&page=3

Maybe they'll raise Burst's damage. I don't know.
There goes the only Stalker I've ever played past 8.

Dammit all to hell.


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There goes the only Stalker I've ever played past 8.

Dammit all to hell.
I am just glad we get one AoE from the kin set. :P

Oh well, hopefully they can increase the damage or increase the radius.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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The damage won't be increased - it already was, once, to put it where it is currently (I was pushing for the scale 1 damage on a larger radius, instead of the scale 1.25 for the current size).

The post about the 100% critical being a bug was in the beta section of the forums, so I can't link it directly (especially now that they're inaccessible even for the people who were in beta). I really don't know whether Castle changed his mind or it's just taking forever to go through the pipeline to get into the game, but in the meantime I've been taking full advantage of Burst from hidden status to finish off closely packed minions. Why AS and get one of them, when BU+Burst takes out 3-4 (depending on their spacing)?


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The damage won't be increased - it already was, once, to put it where it is currently (I was pushing for the scale 1 damage on a larger radius, instead of the scale 1.25 for the current size).

The post about the 100% critical being a bug was in the beta section of the forums, so I can't link it directly (especially now that they're inaccessible even for the people who were in beta). I really don't know whether Castle changed his mind or it's just taking forever to go through the pipeline to get into the game, but in the meantime I've been taking full advantage of Burst from hidden status to finish off closely packed minions. Why AS and get one of them, when BU+Burst takes out 3-4 (depending on their spacing)?
If this is the case, then I'm going to stave off my altitis and level my Kin/Regen until I don't have the heart to delete him. I've managed to get from 1-22 in 5 days. Solo. It's an amazing combo for me. So that said, time to play him until I can't stand to get rid of him. 26 here I come, and beyond!


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I am okay with not getting 100% critical from hide on an AoE, it does seem a little on the powerful side.